Vallejo police officer ranks still dwindling as some take jobs else...

Full story: Vallejo Times-Herald

Vallejo Sgt. John Miller had an eye on a lieutenancy with the Vallejo Police Department.

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May 3, 2010
 
Cops at the top are making way too much money and refuse to take pay cuts so the city will be stuck with the overpaid at the top who are counting the days to their retirement.In the meantime remember the mayor gave the cops a10% raise even though the city is in bankruptcy....well not the mayor alone also Wilson, Sunga and Hannigan. They all thought it was fine to give the PD a raise. They also voted to pay the PD legal fees if they had renegotiate the contract because the city was broke.
Well duh the city is bankrupt.These four are supposed to be representing those of us who live here.Now we are also going to be paying the unions legal fees.YEP the tax payer is going to pay the union legal bills.Well thats another fine mess you've go us into Oz..
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May 3, 2010
 
Miller was busted all the way back to officer along with 3 other sergeants and 9 corporals. and yes, they're leaving, too....
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May 3, 2010
 
YES/NO on measure A? who cares!
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May 3, 2010
 
Gun battle Sunday in Federal Terrace park (near the "school" for trouble-makers) between mexicans and blacks, 20 to 30 shots fired; Do the police haters want to live like this? The rats are over-running our town and we need more cops if we are to keep them under control.

“Learn From Your Mistakes!”

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May 3, 2010
 
Once school get outs, the residential burglaries will spike in number, along with other "entry-level" crimes. Vallejo residents need to lock their doors, don't leave valuables open or visible in your car, whether at the store OR in the driveway. Clear bushes away from your windows. Install motion detector lights and alarm systems. Install security doors. If you have a fenced back yard, get a dog, one of the best alarm systems going. Put your real valuables in a safe; particularly any guns.

When you're out and about in town, surveil any parking lot you enter for occupied cars in corners or wedged in between vans or trucks. If those occupants are watching you and not doing "grocery" activities, be extra cautious. Shoplifters, like bank robbers, often having associates driving the get-away cars, and they'll be positioned in such a way that they can see the front door to the store, drive up real quick, and scoot away rapidly. Needless to say, watch yourself at ATM's and gas stations. Don't let people "in your space" at the pump, be loud and assertive in saying No!

The remaining police officers and dispatch crew will need to prioritize their calls according to need, severity and currentness. Be a helpful witness. Try and remember facial characteristics and hair, not just jacket or shirt colors, which are easily changed. Take note of strange cars anywhere. Just do the best you can, and provide as much relevant information as possible.
Wild West

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May 3, 2010
 
Hey, we can fix this, everyone take a 10% cut in pay and benefits and save all the police and fire department jobs. What? No? You dont want to take any sort of pay cut at all? Oh yes, I remember now the words of Chief Nichelini at a council meeting last year when asked if the ranks would take an across the board pay cut "we choose not to, we want to get paid." That is not being a team player folks, that is trying to force the hand of your employeer (us the citizens.) Cities are on the brink of bankrupcty everywhere, Its time to have a reality check, take a look at what folks earn in the private sector, align pay, benefits and retirement to private sectors jobs.
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May 3, 2010
 
Great post Johnson-my only additional comment is hair can be changed as well real quick and most likely will be covered by a "hoodie" anyway.
Silas Barnabe

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May 3, 2010
 
Pacific Grove Commander 7912-9617

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/25668846/JOB-ANNO...

From page for John Miller base pay 121,959 on page four

http://ibvallejo.com/docs/2009_wagesr.pdf

Assuming he gets top pay at 9617 at 115,404.

That's a long way to travel just to find a position that doesn't pay as much.
JTM

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May 3, 2010
 
Silas Barnabe wrote:
Pacific Grove Commander 7912-9617
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/25668846/JOB-ANNO...
From page for John Miller base pay 121,959 on page four
http://ibvallejo.com/docs/2009_wagesr.pdf
Assuming he gets top pay at 9617 at 115,404.
That's a long way to travel just to find a position that doesn't pay as much.
So what, Mr. Bitter, "Save our Police and Fire". You keep ragging on them, yet claim to want to "save" them.
Silas Barnabe

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May 3, 2010
 
JTM wrote:
<quoted text>So what, Mr. Bitter, "Save our Police and Fire". You keep ragging on them, yet claim to want to "save" them.
PSU enragement!
Shay58

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May 3, 2010
 
Wanglo - stop lying. You know this "incident" did not happen.

Clarke Johnson, why would a normal person spend time "surveiling" a parking lot? You sound like a paranoid nut. You and Wanglow are watching entirely too much TRUTV.
Jim in SF

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May 3, 2010
 
Silas Barnabe wrote:
Pacific Grove Commander 7912-9617
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/25668846/JOB-ANNO...
From page for John Miller base pay 121,959 on page four
http://ibvallejo.com/docs/2009_wagesr.pdf
Assuming he gets top pay at 9617 at 115,404.
That's a long way to travel just to find a position that doesn't pay as much.
Does everything in life revolve around money? How much, how little, how often, how long. You fail to realize that there are many more value propositions in life than money. You should take a drive down to Pacific Grove some time. Take a look around. Take a look at how people live. Google the crime stats. Take a look at the schools. Take a look at the downtown. Take a walk along the sea shore. Take a walk along Pebble Beech. The concept that Vallejo may have to pay more for her police officers compared to a community like Pacific Grove makes perfect rational sense.

You made a great choice for your young family John. Good luck and thanks for looking out for my family for the last 9 years.
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Silas Barnabe wrote:
Pacific Grove Commander 7912-9617
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/25668846/JOB-ANNO...
From page for John Miller base pay 121,959 on page four
http://ibvallejo.com/docs/2009_wagesr.pdf
Assuming he gets top pay at 9617 at 115,404.
That's a long way to travel just to find a position that doesn't pay as much.
I just knew a pay cut was involved! He's leaving out of spite, not to get a promotion. He won't be able to afford a mortgage in Pacific Grove, either. He'll have to live in Salinas, which is about par with Vallejo in terms of demographics and crime.

I truly am sorry this experienced officer is leaving Vallejo, but there really won't be any problem replacing him,.... so why did the council hand out 10% raises we can't afford?

Vote Yes on Measure A!
JTM

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May 3, 2010
 
Vote Yes On A wrote:
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I just knew a pay cut was involved! He's leaving out of spite, not to get a promotion. He won't be able to afford a mortgage in Pacific Grove, either. He'll have to live in Salinas, which is about par with Vallejo in terms of demographics and crime.
I truly am sorry this experienced officer is leaving Vallejo, but there really won't be any problem replacing him,.... so why did the council hand out 10% raises we can't afford?
Vote Yes on Measure A!
Keep dreaming. Vallejo has defined itself as hostile to public safety professions.
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May 3, 2010
 
JTM wrote:
<quoted text>Keep dreaming. Vallejo has defined itself as hostile to public safety professions.
That's right.
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Wild West wrote:
Hey, we can fix this, everyone take a 10% cut in pay and benefits and save all the police and fire department jobs. What? No? You dont want to take any sort of pay cut at all? Oh yes, I remember now the words of Chief Nichelini at a council meeting last year when asked if the ranks would take an across the board pay cut "we choose not to, we want to get paid." That is not being a team player folks, that is trying to force the hand of your employeer (us the citizens.) Cities are on the brink of bankrupcty everywhere, Its time to have a reality check, take a look at what folks earn in the private sector, align pay, benefits and retirement to private sectors jobs.
Sr Firefighters took a 23 percent pay cut.

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May 3, 2010
 
Shay58 wrote:
Wanglo - stop lying. You know this "incident" did not happen.
Clarke Johnson, why would a normal person spend time "surveiling" a parking lot? You sound like a paranoid nut. You and Wanglow are watching entirely too much TRUTV.
I'm just saying, as you know full well, to just take a look around to see who's in the area. This is a common sense approach to being safe.

But then again, common sense appears to not be your strong suit, based on your numerous ill-thought out posts. BTW: My approach to Vallejo is based on living here for 20 some years, and learning the hard way that the folks you constantly apologize for and make excuses for are likely up to no good. My worldview on Vallejo is based on reality and experience. Would you say that the measures being taken by DeMares Jewelers following their wicked robbery are the actions of paranoid nuts? They want to see who is coming in the door. I support their caution.

What about you? Do you support their new security measures? Take a chance for once and be logical and honest. It couldn't hurt. Try and work on your spelling, too. Classes are available.
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May 3, 2010
 
Jim in SF wrote:
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You made a great choice for your young family John. Good luck and thanks for looking out for my family for the last 9 years.
Perfectly said! It has been a pleasure to have met you during the Citizens Academy 2009. Vallejo's loss is Pacific Grove's gain. Be safe!

Since: Nov 09

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May 3, 2010
 
john wrote:
YES/NO on measure A? who cares!
You'll care, when you have an uninvited "guest" standing in the middle of your living room (bedroom, kids room) with a gun in his hand and the things you worked hard for in the other.
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#21
May 3, 2010
 
No sweat! You can hirer replacements. Happens all the time in other jurisdictions.

Remember the City of Davis and its Liberal City Council? Ah, yes! 14 officers fled for their sanity!

I'd suggest that you concentrate on the quality of your background checks or taxpayers will pay dearly, later! In more ways then one.

Think about.

Thanks for the Union update!

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