Dilenna Harris is Vacaville's best chance

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Citizen

San Francisco, CA

#1 Nov 5, 2012
Vacaville is in danger of losing very important funding if measures I & M are not renewed. Essential city services will lose funding. But even if those measures are renewed, we need someone adept at managing large budgets and working with County and State officials to keep things moving forward. Harris has the experience, relationships, and skills necessary to help navigate us back to a strong and prosperous Vacaville. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for other candidates.

When endorsements roll in from not just local folks like both the past and current mayor & the Vacaville City Employees Association, but other city's council members, county supervisors, the sheriff & undersheriff, the DA, and even the state senate, it's obvious the right relationships are in place. Throwing someone new into the fire won't accomplish anything for Vacaville. I'm a long time Vacaville resident and I support Harris.
Roger

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Nov 5, 2012
Really? Because her "experience" has only resulted in more service cuts and a budget crisis that can only be solved with more taxation. I, for one, think our ONLY chance is to get these old cronies out. Think about the Recology contract for a second and you'll see my point.
Angus

Pacifica, CA

#3 Nov 5, 2012
Well, Citizen...Dilenna plans on using the I&M funds for an "economic developmet director"...exactly what it is NOT to be used for. "More of the same" and more bureaucracy using hard-earned taxpayer dollars is NOT what Vacaville needs.

Don't believe me?

Dilenna says it herself.

Citizen

San Francisco, CA

#4 Nov 5, 2012
Roger wrote:
Really? Because her "experience" has only resulted in more service cuts and a budget crisis that can only be solved with more taxation. I, for one, think our ONLY chance is to get these old cronies out. Think about the Recology contract for a second and you'll see my point.
You mean think about how Recology got themselves into that mess? Harris never wanted those jobs to go anywhere else. Ask her yourself. City's have a responsibility to make sure they have fair contracts and that they are spending what money they have wisely. After seeing that every city around us was spending less on garbage and sanitation services than Vacaville, they asked Recology for a new bid. The city didn't receive one. Even when they gave them a deadline, Recology didn't send one.

Cities have a procedure for getting bids from other companies called a Request for Proposal (RFP), and when Recology didn't want to play ball, the entire city council voted to pursue an RFP. It took that RFP to get a fair bid from Recology, and at the end of the day Recology is still our garbage services provider, right? Harris voted for Recology to get the contract. So what's your issue?

I love our garbage and sanitation workers and wouldn't wish any ill against them. The guys in the trucks aren't to blame, and neither is city council or Harris individually. They were all doing their jobs. If anything, the blame is on Recology corporate for not doing their job in the first place and dragging the issue out for months on end.
Angus

Pacifica, CA

#5 Nov 5, 2012
So, Citizen Harris...anything further?
Citizen

San Francisco, CA

#6 Nov 5, 2012
Angus wrote:
Well, Citizen...Dilenna plans on using the I&M funds for an "economic developmet director"...exactly what it is NOT to be used for. "More of the same" and more bureaucracy using hard-earned taxpayer dollars is NOT what Vacaville needs.
Don't believe me?
Dilenna says it herself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =yjZylcP_u0sXX
The Economic Development Committee is something Rowlett and Hunt voted for last month, not Harris. Those positions are manned by city employees and paid for from our city budget. Harris wanted to wait and see where we'll be financially before deciding to form a whole committee on economic development when Vacaville might be on the verge of bankruptcy come 2013 if I & M don't pass. Most of that tax is paid for by tourists at the outlets anyway, so it's worth it to keep it around for a while.

That video is useless because context is everything. A 15-second clip doesn't give the whole story. Some of those funds definitely can be used to reinstate positions lost when the state stripped redevelopment funds or go towards new positions that fulfill essential services.

Guys like Eric Luchini who have served Vacaville for years and had their jobs realigned to different departments when redevelopment was taken away would have no hope of working for the city any longer without funds from I & M. We need people with experience like Eric, people who know city planning procedures and who already have key relationships in place, if our city is going to prosper. There were some folks we couldn't rehire because the money just wasn't there. With I & M renewed, it could be a possibility. Without it, we're going to be in a hole that we might not ever get out of.

Show the full city council meeting and watch Mayor Steve Hardy tell everyone that Harris never said she would use that money to increase employee salaries or benefits like the video maker claims. She even said so herself just moments after what is shown in that stupid video.
Angus

Pacifica, CA

#7 Nov 5, 2012
Thank you, Citizen Harris.

Can you explain to us why we need an economic development director (paid with taxpayer money) to perform the function that the Chamber of Commerce can "easily" do (and are more suited to do since they are business owners in the area)?

I would love your insight.
Citizen

San Francisco, CA

#8 Nov 5, 2012
The Chamber doesn't work that way. It exists to help small businesses locally by educating them and providing leadership & other resources. It's a member-based organization focused on helping it's members thrive. Their job isn't to go out outside of Vacaville and woo large corporations here.

An economic development director would most likely be tasked with building relationships with large employers outside of Vacaville in order to get them to set up shop here like our city has done with Genentech, Kaiser, State Fund Insurance, etc. Hiring an economic development director has been discussed by all council members, not just Harris.

If an economic development committee is created, that position would be considered an essential service because someone has to fill that role. Measure M funds are allowed to go towards that, and the city wouldn't have money to fill that position without those funds. "Enhancements" are defined as increases to current employee salaries or benefits. A new position would require a new salary and would not be considered an enhancement. Measure M revenues would go to the general fund, and from there the city can contract someone or hire a temporary position. We won't need the economic development director forever.
Angus

Pacifica, CA

#9 Nov 5, 2012
Citizen wrote:
If an economic development committee is created, that position would be considered an essential service because someone has to fill that role. Measure M funds are allowed to go towards that, and the city wouldn't have money to fill that position without those funds. "Enhancements" are defined as increases to current employee salaries or benefits. A new position would require a new salary and would not be considered an enhancement. Measure M revenues would go to the general fund, and from there the city can contract someone or hire a temporary position. We won't need the economic development director forever.
Wow. Nice work-around of that whole "public trust and perception" with Measure M, Citizen Harris.
How very "experienced" of you.
You do know you don't need to refer to yourself in the third person, right Dilenna? That's just going to make people think you're crazy.:)
Citizen

San Francisco, CA

#10 Nov 5, 2012
Trust me, if I was a city councilmember I'd have much better things to do than explain how local government works to you.

And "work-around"? If you don't know where Measure M money goes and what it can be used for, then you need to read your ballot. It's as plain as day.
Angus

Pacifica, CA

#11 Nov 5, 2012
Personally, I would rather see local Vacaville business grown rather than trying to lure outside businesses (and spend $100K of taxpayer money on some bureaucrat to do it). That seems like "economic growth" to me.

But, I guess that isn't the focus. No wonder so many businesses have left the Chamber of Commerce. It doesn't seem that they are supporting local business.
Angus

Pacifica, CA

#12 Nov 5, 2012
Citizen wrote:
Trust me, if I was a city councilmember I'd have much better things to do than explain how local government works to you.
And "work-around"? If you don't know where Measure M money goes and what it can be used for, then you need to read your ballot. It's as plain as day.
Well, after tomorrow, I look forward to your time.:)

I suggest you read the definition of "work-around", and then examine how you need a whole paragraph to justify your position.:)
Citizen

San Francisco, CA

#13 Nov 5, 2012
Angus wrote:
No wonder so many businesses have left the Chamber of Commerce. It doesn't seem that they are supporting local business.
The chamber is doing what it's here to do. Sure, things could be better, but that's always the case. The new website and leadership program are far better than they've ever been in the past. When times get tough, the few small business owners who don't see the value of networking and forming strategic alliances with others always dump the chamber of commerce first. It's a historical trend. Those who stay in actually participate rather than thinking the chamber will do everything for them.
Angus wrote:
(and spend $100K of taxpayer money on some bureaucrat to do it).
Who said how much the city wants to pay someone for that position?
Angus wrote:
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I suggest you read the definition of "work-around", and then examine how you need a whole paragraph to justify your position.:)
It takes paragraphs to fill the gaping holes in your logic. You asked me a question, so I gave you a thought out (and accurate) answer. All you'll usually get from most folks on here is a hissy fit or an accusation of how racist you are. Give me some credit for actually responding to you like a human.
Mr Hand

Davis, CA

#14 Nov 5, 2012
The current council folks are hardly 'old cronies'.

If an economic dev manager cannot be funded then the city manager needs to be that person.

Check with the successful small but viable businesses in town and you will find that the head guy or gal is also the chief marketing person.

Harris knows this. She ran a business and was the chief marketer. Not sure what the other council members do, but there can't be many who actually have ramrodded a business. Most in this town are ex-gubment employees. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but if you haven't played the game you really can't know the score.
Angus

Pacifica, CA

#15 Nov 5, 2012
Citizen wrote:
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Give me some credit for actually responding to you like a human.
Thank you for your grace to the goverened. Us lil folk appreciate it.
Linda

Antelope, CA

#16 Nov 5, 2012
This turned into a fight so fast! I think name calling and finger pointing just makes everyone look bad. Just from what little I've seen here, I can say that it seems like our service has been all down hill for years now. Then earlier in the year when we have this budget crisis! I love how every single council member blamed someone else. Sorry, but you guys are representing our city so take some responsibility. I'm definately NOT voting for the current members tomorrow.
Fred

San Francisco, CA

#17 Nov 5, 2012
Linda wrote:
I'm definately NOT voting for the current members tomorrow.
Just curious... do you really think two new folks in the midst of this crisis will get anything done? It wasn't any one person's fault that we had budget issues when the entire nation had budget issues. Definitely not their fault the state took a lot of the city's money and plans had to change quickly.
Fred

San Francisco, CA

#18 Nov 5, 2012
hehe. It says I'm in Alameda when I'm sitting right here in Vacaville. This topix thing is funny.
Vaca Voter

San Mateo, CA

#19 Nov 6, 2012
Vote has been cast for Harris. Ready to watch TV without being bombarded by political ads.

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