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No Way

Syracuse, NY

#1 May 13, 2013
OK. who has the scoop? Head there was a big blowout between coaches and parents during a game. Mothers were fighting? Don't know how much of it is true but heard one coach (cursing at prents) is league pres and the other coach is pop warner president. This stuff is getting sad. Also heard kids are quitting league presidents team.

Again this all hearsay, curious if anyone has details. When my boys played minor league was really low key. Things didn't get crazy until Little League
No cred

Utica, NY

#2 May 14, 2013
No Way wrote:
OK. who has the scoop? Head there was a big blowout between coaches and parents during a game. Mothers were fighting? Don't know how much of it is true but heard one coach (cursing at prents) is league pres and the other coach is pop warner president. This stuff is getting sad. Also heard kids are quitting league presidents team.
Again this all hearsay, curious if anyone has details. When my boys played minor league was really low key. Things didn't get crazy until Little League
First, whitesboro LL PRESIDENT does not coach a team. So, already you have lost cred.
No Way

Syracuse, NY

#3 May 14, 2013
No cred wrote:
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First, whitesboro LL PRESIDENT does not coach a team. So, already you have lost cred.
The post is about MINOR LEAGUE, try reading the title! No what was that you said about my credibility???
nitwit

New Britain, CT

#4 May 14, 2013
No Way wrote:
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The post is about MINOR LEAGUE, try reading the title! No what was that you said about my credibility???
LOL
Some of you folks would be well served to sit back quietly and casually observe, rather than open your ignorant piehole an amuse us with your stupidity.

When the person speaks of the LL president he is referring to the head of the local, chartered, LL organization. Commonly referred to as a Board of Directors. Within that chartered organization there are various divisions of play, among them are T-ball, Minors, Majors, Senior, etc....depending on the size of the community or area as chartered.

Your implication that someone else lacks credibility, due to the fact that they accurately referred to a board president , while you believe it should have been a division president, only highlights your ignorance about Little League. Rather than spouting ignorance on Topix, how about attending a meeting and getting involved? At least then when you have a gripe you can speak in a vernacular that suggests a basic knowledge of how the organization functions.
yes

Whitesboro, NY

#5 May 14, 2013
nitwit wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
Some of you folks would be well served to sit back quietly and casually observe, rather than open your ignorant piehole an amuse us with your stupidity.
When the person speaks of the LL president he is referring to the head of the local, chartered, LL organization. Commonly referred to as a Board of Directors. Within that chartered organization there are various divisions of play, among them are T-ball, Minors, Majors, Senior, etc....depending on the size of the community or area as chartered.
Your implication that someone else lacks credibility, due to the fact that they accurately referred to a board president , while you believe it should have been a division president, only highlights your ignorance about Little League. Rather than spouting ignorance on Topix, how about attending a meeting and getting involved? At least then when you have a gripe you can speak in a vernacular that suggests a basic knowledge of how the organization functions.
perfectly said!!!
nitwit

New Britain, CT

#6 May 14, 2013
No Way wrote:
OK. who has the scoop? Head there was a big blowout between coaches and parents during a game. Mothers were fighting? Don't know how much of it is true but heard one coach (cursing at prents) is league pres and the other coach is pop warner president. This stuff is getting sad. Also heard kids are quitting league presidents team.
Again this all hearsay, curious if anyone has details. When my boys played minor league was really low key. Things didn't get crazy until Little League
So, here is the scoop you were loookng for....
An ignorant, clueless parent who never once played catch with Little Johnny has a gripe with the coach of LJ's team. Similarly ignorant parents got into some meaningless argument about whose kid sucks the least and now choose to blame the coach, who is apparently the President of Whitestown LL Board of Directors. Ignorant parent then turns to Topix to bash those who volunteer hundreds of hours every year so kids like LJ have an opportunity to recieve a $4 trophy after weeks showcasing their lack of talent. Just for good measure, since LJ is a panty waist soccer player in the fall, ignorant parent also throws a jab at the Pop Warner President.
Rome People

Woburn, MA

#8 May 14, 2013
You Whitesboro and New Hartford scums get bent out of shape when your loser kids do not win!

Rome kids are far superior and will be your kids employers someday......think about it!
Hmmmm

Syracuse, NY

#9 May 14, 2013
Wow, the anger in your responses tell me you must be connected to the incident. By the way, this post is about adults, so when you retreat into mocking children you immediately expose your ignorance... I hope your child is a superstar and destined for great things. But seriously, did you really call someone's child a "pantywaist" Wow.... SAD.

For the record my kids are grown, I coached countless hours in Whitesboro, Pop Warner, minor league, basketball, biddy and travel, and girls softball too. I am saddened by what I see and hear now...

Fact- one coach involved is the president of whitestown minor league - the director of each league is referred to as a president and sits on the WYA board of directors

Fact - the other coach is involved in pop warner president of flag I believe.

Fact- there was a lot of adults arguing and cursing in front of children. Neither coach took control, both were a part of the problem.

Fact - Two mom's had to be separated

Fact - A grandfather - a coaching legend in the area by the way - was cursed at by one of these exemplary role models.

Fact - kids have left the program because of the incident

It is time for good parents, with the best intentions to get more involved, the current pattern of parents only involved to win or turn their kid into a star is destroying youth sports.

I've said my piece -the name calling that follows will just further illustrate my point...

SAD
nitwit

Utica, NY

#11 May 15, 2013
Hmmmm wrote:
Wow, the anger in your responses tell me you must be connected to the incident. By the way, this post is about adults, so when you retreat into mocking children you immediately expose your ignorance... I hope your child is a superstar and destined for great things. But seriously, did you really call someone's child a "pantywaist" Wow.... SAD.
For the record my kids are grown, I coached countless hours in Whitesboro, Pop Warner, minor league, basketball, biddy and travel, and girls softball too. I am saddened by what I see and hear now...
Fact- one coach involved is the president of whitestown minor league - the director of each league is referred to as a president and sits on the WYA board of directors
Fact - the other coach is involved in pop warner president of flag I believe.
Fact- there was a lot of adults arguing and cursing in front of children. Neither coach took control, both were a part of the problem.
Fact - Two mom's had to be separated
Fact - A grandfather - a coaching legend in the area by the way - was cursed at by one of these exemplary role models.
Fact - kids have left the program because of the incident
It is time for good parents, with the best intentions to get more involved, the current pattern of parents only involved to win or turn their kid into a star is destroying youth sports.
I've said my piece -the name calling that follows will just further illustrate my point...
SAD
I volunteer to separate the mothers.
Angry Parent

Syracuse, NY

#13 May 15, 2013
I don't care what town or city you are in....nothing beats angry sports parent
called out

Utica, NY

#14 May 15, 2013
wow wrote:
really sad-EJ, Centro and Greene also better just calm down. Especially you Frank!!!!
Well, now that you have called out these offenders, the next step is to have them removed from the program and elect new officers. Because, remember this: if you don't rid yourselves of them now, they will move up to Little League and ruin that program for your next four years.
nitwit

Bloomfield, CT

#15 May 15, 2013
QUOTE "Hmmmm" "Wow, the anger in your responses tell me you must be connected to the incident. By the way, this post is about adults, so when .........."

I completely disagree about parents involved to win are destroying youth sports. What you confuse as trying to turn their kid into a star is often a decision made by necessity rather than favortism.
Many parents, youself included apparently, have lost sight of the importance of lessons learned in youth sports. On one hand there is the crowd who think every kid is entitled to play every position, or that every kid should sit the same number of innings. The AYSO mentality that keeping the parents happy is more important than the sport itself, that the score doesnt matter and eveyone wins. Sure, there is a lesson learned in that. That all are equal, all contribute in the capacity they are able, that participation is the primary goal.
The other side feels that results matter, that effort is rewarded, that extraordinary effort deserves a greater reward. Sure, they all recieve the same size trophy at the end of the year, and an extremely small percentage will advance to a higher level after high school. What I think many parents miss though, is the opportunity to teach their kids that success in life is directly proportional to the effort they apply.
Don't think that Little League Incorporated has missed this correlation between effort/reward. LL's primary goal is to help kids grow to be successful adults. Baseball is a sport that teaches them discipline, teamwork, strategy, the reward of perfecting their skills. LL even states that baseball is intended to challenge kids to perfect their physical skills. In short, right out of the book, it should be the intent of each team to score more runs than the other.
This is a fundamental difference between these two types of parents. The first would be better served by keeping their kids involved in less competitive sports, AYSO is a great option for them. The philosophical difference in opinion about which life lessons are best for their kids are obvious. I'm not saying that the best athletes will go further in life, or that soccer players will end up working at Walmart. But I do believe with all my heart that kids who learn the value of hard work, that effort is rewamrded, that having goals and working to achieve them, is the best preparation we can give them for success in life.
You can disagree with me if you choose, but I will not change my opinion that results matter more than parents feelings, that kids who apply themselves will go further than the kids who just show up. As long as people like me stay active on boards and as coaches, people like you will have to accept that we are keeping score.
For the record, I do not condone the arguing/fighting parents or coaches. The problem usually arises when the parents who had no interest in volunteering or even sticking around for practices think they would be a better coach or umpire. I beleive the rules are fair and all should follow them, that is one of the most important lessons. For those who dont, just like real life, there should be consequences.
Now let the kids play ball for chriŽ@s sake. Shut your traps and cheer them on like parents should. If you dont like a rule or a coach, show up at the next meeting. The ball field is for ball, sour grapes and compaints can be brought to the board or a call to the player agent.
Future prison jobbers

United States

#16 May 15, 2013
nitwit wrote:
<quoted text>
So, here is the scoop you were loookng for....
An ignorant, clueless parent who never once played catch with Little Johnny has a gripe with the coach of LJ's team. Similarly ignorant parents got into some meaningless argument about whose kid sucks the least and now choose to blame the coach, who is apparently the President of Whitestown LL Board of Directors. Ignorant parent then turns to Topix to bash those who volunteer hundreds of hours every year so kids like LJ have an opportunity to recieve a $4 trophy after weeks showcasing their lack of talent. Just for good measure, since LJ is a panty waist soccer player in the fall, ignorant parent also throws a jab at the Pop Warner President.
This is ALL they talk about and most of these posters like the one utica ip and the whitesboro ip are "police champions".

I'm always amazed at the vapid worthless school sports experience and the way some of the adult-children go at it using it as some vicarious episode to remember their "glory days". Most of these people end colo-rectal officers or some other public sector worker because if this is their priority and the way they handles it.... johnny's not getting out of cny but he may get a forklift job. This is ridiculous none of these schools have ever done any major contributions to sports history there's more engineers or more lawyers than there are "pro ball" players. This is typical neanderthal people jabber. I can only IMAGINE how fcking stupid and petty their KIDS are lmao!
Cretin Alert

New Hartford, NY

#17 May 15, 2013
Future prison jobbers wrote:
<quoted text>This is ALL they talk about and most of these posters like the one utica ip and the whitesboro ip are "police champions".
I'm always amazed at the vapid worthless school sports experience and the way some of the adult-children go at it using it as some vicarious episode to remember their "glory days". Most of these people end colo-rectal officers or some other public sector worker because if this is their priority and the way they handles it.... johnny's not getting out of cny but he may get a forklift job. This is ridiculous none of these schools have ever done any major contributions to sports history there's more engineers or more lawyers than there are "pro ball" players. This is typical neanderthal people jabber. I can only IMAGINE how fcking stupid and petty their KIDS are lmao!
It is the bane Cretin posting above. He is an idiot.
hmm

Syracuse, NY

#18 May 15, 2013
Very well said Nitwit...You misconstrue my meaning... I said involved "only to win" I am extremely competitive and agree with almost everything you say... I'm embarrassed by the behavior of adults in my community. They go about teaching the values you describe so well in your post in all the wrong ways... If they are cursing at other coaches and parents and fighting with each other then all of the great things you speak of are lost.

As a life long football guy, whose children have chosen soccer, AYSO is a lot like flag football or t-ball. A starting place, the truly talented and competitive soccer players are out of ayso and playing club soccer by 9 or 10 years old...

By the way, my own son sat the bench for me in baseball a lot, he just wasn't that good, football he was a true minuteman, but in basketball he started and played most of every game because he deserved it!
Well

New Hartford, NY

#19 May 15, 2013
Rome People wrote:
You Whitesboro and New Hartford scums get bent out of shape when your loser kids do not win!
Rome kids are far superior and will be your kids employers someday......think about it!
Nope. Our kids don't want to work as drug mules.
trip over

Utica, NY

#22 May 15, 2013
nitwit wrote:
QUOTE "Hmmmm" "Wow, the anger in your responses tell me you must be connected to the incident. By the way, this post is about adults, so when .........."
I completely disagree about parents involved to win are destroying youth sports. What you confuse as trying to turn their kid into a star is often a decision made by necessity rather than favortism.
Many parents, youself included apparently, have lost sight of the importance of lessons learned in youth sports. On one hand there is the crowd who think every kid is entitled to play every position, or that every kid should sit the same number of innings. The AYSO mentality that keeping the parents happy is more important than the sport itself, that the score doesnt matter and eveyone wins. Sure, there is a lesson learned in that. That all are equal, all contribute in the capacity they are able, that participation is the primary goal.
The other side feels that results matter, that effort is rewarded, that extraordinary effort deserves a greater reward. Sure, they all recieve the same size trophy at the end of the year, and an extremely small percentage will advance to a higher level after high school. What I think many parents miss though, is the opportunity to teach their kids that success in life is directly proportional to the effort they apply.
Don't think that Little League Incorporated has missed this correlation between effort/reward. LL's primary goal is to help kids grow to be successful adults. Baseball is a sport that teaches them discipline, teamwork, strategy, the reward of perfecting their skills. LL even states that baseball is intended to challenge kids to perfect their physical skills. In short, right out of the book, it should be the intent of each team to score more runs than the other.
This is a fundamental difference between these two types of parents. The first would be better served by keeping their kids involved in less competitive sports, AYSO is a great option for them. The philosophical difference in opinion about which life lessons are best for their kids are obvious. I'm not saying that the best athletes will go further in life, or that soccer players will end up working at Walmart. But I do believe with all my heart that kids who learn the value of hard work, that effort is rewamrded, that having goals and working to achieve them, is the best preparation we can give them for success in life.
You can disagree with me if you choose, but I will not change my opinion that results matter more than parents feelings, that kids who apply themselves will go further than the kids who just show up. As long as people like me stay active on boards and as coaches, people like you will have to accept that we are keeping score.
For the record, I do not condone the arguing/fighting parents or coaches. The problem usually arises when the parents who had no interest in volunteering or even sticking around for practices think they would be a better coach or umpire. I beleive the rules are fair and all should follow them, that is one of the most important lessons. For those who dont, just like real life, there should be consequences.
Now let the kids play ball for chriŽ@s sake. Shut your traps and cheer them on like parents should. If you dont like a rule or a coach, show up at the next meeting. The ball field is for ball, sour grapes and compaints can be brought to the board or a call to the player agent.
You really are the nitwit.
good thing

Utica, NY

#23 May 16, 2013
nitwit wrote:
QUOTE "Hmmmm" "Wow, the anger in your responses tell me you must be connected to the incident. By the way, this post is about adults, so when .........."
I completely disagree about parents involved to win are destroying youth sports. What you confuse as trying to turn their kid into a star is often a decision made by necessity rather than favortism.
Many parents, youself included apparently, have lost sight of the importance of lessons learned in youth sports. On one hand there is the crowd who think every kid is entitled to play every position, or that every kid should sit the same number of innings. The AYSO mentality that keeping the parents happy is more important than the sport itself, that the score doesnt matter and eveyone wins. Sure, there is a lesson learned in that. That all are equal, all contribute in the capacity they are able, that participation is the primary goal.
The other side feels that results matter, that effort is rewarded, that extraordinary effort deserves a greater reward. Sure, they all recieve the same size trophy at the end of the year, and an extremely small percentage will advance to a higher level after high school. What I think many parents miss though, is the opportunity to teach their kids that success in life is directly proportional to the effort they apply.
Don't think that Little League Incorporated has missed this correlation between effort/reward. LL's primary goal is to help kids grow to be successful adults. Baseball is a sport that teaches them discipline, teamwork, strategy, the reward of perfecting their skills. LL even states that baseball is intended to challenge kids to perfect their physical skills. In short, right out of the book, it should be the intent of each team to score more runs than the other.
This is a fundamental difference between these two types of parents. The first would be better served by keeping their kids involved in less competitive sports, AYSO is a great option for them. The philosophical difference in opinion about which life lessons are best for their kids are obvious. I'm not saying that the best athletes will go further in life, or that soccer players will end up working at Walmart. But I do believe with all my heart that kids who learn the value of hard work, that effort is rewamrded, that having goals and working to achieve them, is the best preparation we can give them for success in life.
You can disagree with me if you choose, but I will not change my opinion that results matter more than parents feelings, that kids who apply themselves will go further than the kids who just show up. As long as people like me stay active on boards and as coaches, people like you will have to accept that we are keeping score.
For the record, I do not condone the arguing/fighting parents or coaches. The problem usually arises when the parents who had no interest in volunteering or even sticking around for practices think they would be a better coach or umpire. I beleive the rules are fair and all should follow them, that is one of the most important lessons. For those who dont, just like real life, there should be consequences.
Now let the kids play ball for chriŽ@s sake. Shut your traps and cheer them on like parents should. If you dont like a rule or a coach, show up at the next meeting. The ball field is for ball, sour grapes and compaints can be brought to the board or a call to the player agent.
Wow!! It sure is a good thing you came around so we would know how to unravel this mystery:) Same 'ole story. Lazy people allow morons to run a program for their kids and then complain that it is run in a moronic manner. You get what you wish for.
Be careful, or these same people, previously named,(EJ, Centro, Greene will be running your Little League Program.
parent asking

Utica, NY

#24 May 16, 2013
What can I do as a parent to prevent these people from infesting the Little League program as their kids move up?
History shows

United States

#26 May 16, 2013
Well wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope. Our kids don't want to work as drug mules.
Yes that's why historically whitestown and all the rest of those upstate redneck farms only produces kids who work as dock loaders or corrections officers. History and facts don't lie. All you have to do when reading this is wonder why ANYONE would trust their kids in retarded gorilla games from "shool" sports in upstate.

They all end up working public service when you dumb them down and program them with these gorilla game values. Look at your alum. Most never get out of cny or complete a degree so they end up repeating the adult-child sports parent coors-light dad routine.

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