Kim Simon article - Corruption at it...

Kim Simon article - Corruption at its finest

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Joe M

Utica, NY

#1 Sep 18, 2013
What a joke. The DA's office thought Brnes was truly the killer back during the trial? BS. They needed to pin the murder on someone. They were covering up who the real killer was and railroaded Steven Barnes. Crooked DA, crooked cops, and a crooked judge. The whole thing DEFINES what is wrong with Utica. You think you can get a fair trial by your peers??? Think again.

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not convinced

Utica, NY

#3 Sep 18, 2013
stupid wrote:
Not to mention that the Simons never actually apologize for Barnes being wrongfully imprisoned for 20 years. His life was ruined just like your daughter's. All they say is "we're pissed they got the wrong guy!"
They were among the group with pitchforks going after Steven Barnes in the 1980s. No credible evidence. They didn't care. It was a witch hunt.
Why should they apologize to him they should sue those bastards. I'm not convinced Barnes is innocent, I think he knows something but I don't believe he killed her, but he knows something. Why didn't he answer the question as to why he was in that school the next day looking for the girl. Barnes' detriment is his mother.

I think this will destroy the credibility of the Innocence Project of Barry Scheck's and Barnes would NOT be out today if the powers that be are NOT up to something. So in the end, Barnes should be grateful to the person these [email protected] are setting up for if it was not for a conspiracy, Barnes would still be sitting in the joint!

This whole case is a sham from the start and this Helmer is one of the biggest criminals riding the conspiracy trail. Who does he think he is, Lou Schmidt? This case should not be of importance to a loser like this and on top of it, this case was created as by Barnes said "junk science' thus they NEVER would have had any DNA saved and in that day, forensic science was way too new and thus the total jackalls of this area who were in on the heist would never have properly saved any possible forensic evidence, they seed, weed and destroy the lives they want the dollars from.

I hope all end up in jail and all the own seized.

As for the parents, how could they care, they lost. Just wait til they really find out what has been going on with their child, they'll really vomit and all said and done Oneida County MUST go down lower than the losses of Detroit.
Smarten Up

Carthage, NY

#4 Sep 18, 2013
not convinced wrote:
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Why should they apologize to him they should sue those bastards. I'm not convinced Barnes is innocent, I think he knows something but I don't believe he killed her, but he knows something. Why didn't he answer the question as to why he was in that school the next day looking for the girl. Barnes' detriment is his mother.
I think this will destroy the credibility of the Innocence Project of Barry Scheck's and Barnes would NOT be out today if the powers that be are NOT up to something. So in the end, Barnes should be grateful to the person these [email protected] are setting up for if it was not for a conspiracy, Barnes would still be sitting in the joint!
Just because you think Barnes knows something doesn't mean that he does. It just means that you are just another a-hole with an opinion. Doesn't destroy or effect the Innocence Project's credibility one iota.

The cops and DA back then convicted Barnes on non-existent evidence. That problems still exists today. Juries are made up of people and people are stupid. Most of them are sheeple as well, and they believe that cops never lie and if the DA says you did it, you must have done it.

Judges are no better. A case must be proved "beyond a reasonable doubt" and if it isn't, the judge is obligated to dismiss charges.

But, cops do lie, DAs & judges are corrupt, and juries are stupid. That's a recipe for anyone's wrongful incarceration. And nothing has changed since then.
Why

Utica, NY

#5 Sep 18, 2013
stupid wrote:
Not to mention that the Simons never actually apologize for Barnes being wrongfully imprisoned for 20 years. His life was ruined just like your daughter's. All they say is "we're pissed they got the wrong guy!"
They were among the group with pitchforks going after Steven Barnes in the 1980s. No credible evidence. They didn't care. It was a witch hunt.
The Simon's were not the ones who accused and arrested Barnes for this crime so why should they apologize? The community believed back then that the cops were doing their job, bottom line, and a jury did convict him.. As crooked as it all was that is what happened and because of that Kim's murderer walks free.. And now we hear there IS a DNA match but the man is dead or wait, maybe it was a transient. Transient my ass!!!
Thats Utica

Utica, NY

#6 Sep 19, 2013
Judge Cardamone was it? Pompous windbag that should have never been given the bench. He was corrupt Mafia just like the rest of the douches on the UPD and DA's office. All of them involved in a huge conspiracy. God knows how many innocent people they sent to prison over the years.
Seems to me

Moravia, NY

#7 Sep 19, 2013
They're waiting for the perp to die, so they can pull another one of those scams.

Ex-Sheriff Washtub was all upset when they let Barnes out. Wonder who HE's covering up.
You Dont Know

Warren, NJ

#8 Sep 19, 2013
stupid wrote:
Not to mention that the Simons never actually apologize for Barnes being wrongfully imprisoned for 20 years. His life was ruined just like your daughter's. All they say is "we're pissed they got the wrong guy!"
They were among the group with pitchforks going after Steven Barnes in the 1980s. No credible evidence. They didn't care. It was a witch hunt.
Which is the SAME thing 99% of us would have done in that situation. Get off your soap box and leave the family alone. They are the true victims in this case and only a complete jackass would pile on them.
When

United States

#9 Sep 19, 2013
When certain people see the original fckups being held accountable for an innocent man in prison and an accountable district attorney replaces what you have now, information will come. End of story see ya then.
thoughts

Utica, NY

#10 Sep 19, 2013
It will never be "solved". I think it's actually was solved way back when but covered up. The real murderer had some relation to the UPD (Cop's kid or something) and they used Barnes as a scapegoat. But the real murderer will never be brought to justice. Ever.
You Dont Know

Mexico

#11 Sep 19, 2013
thoughts wrote:
It will never be "solved". I think it's actually was solved way back when but covered up. The real murderer had some relation to the UPD (Cop's kid or something) and they used Barnes as a scapegoat. But the real murderer will never be brought to justice. Ever.
You could be right, you could be wrong. Either way, your opinion sucks. Most decent people would be rooting for justice to finally be served and this family to have some closure to this nightmare. Clearly, you don't care.
klicky

Weedsport, NY

#12 Sep 19, 2013
"klang-a-dee klang clang klaaang...

goes the cell door...

with a concrete flooooor...

clang a de clang clang clang..."
Geez

Carthage, NY

#13 Sep 19, 2013
You Dont Know wrote:
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You could be right, you could be wrong. Either way, your opinion sucks. Most decent people would be rooting for justice to finally be served and this family to have some closure to this nightmare. Clearly, you don't care.
First, "justice being served" is among the most stupid comments ever.

Second, there can never be justice, only closure (as you wish for the family). True justice is bringing her back alive.
Get Real

Newport, NY

#14 Sep 19, 2013
You Dont Know wrote:
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You could be right, you could be wrong. Either way, your opinion sucks. Most decent people would be rooting for justice to finally be served and this family to have some closure to this nightmare. Clearly, you don't care.
This isn't about "caring" or "cheerleading" or anyone's "unacceptable attitude". Barnes was SET UP - P E R I O D - by Kim's "so called" friends who murdered her and who's parents had money and political drag. The damage has been done - What's to "cheer" about?
klick 2

Utica, NY

#15 Sep 19, 2013
"klang a dee klang klang klank...
a dee clang a de bang bang bang...
clang goes the cell door...
with a concrete floor..."
thoughts

Utica, NY

#16 Sep 19, 2013
You Dont Know wrote:
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You could be right, you could be wrong. Either way, your opinion sucks. Most decent people would be rooting for justice to finally be served and this family to have some closure to this nightmare. Clearly, you don't care.
No actually I do care. I would love to see the perpetrator be tortured in prison for decades to come. But the whole thing is disgusting and angers me. This murderer willn ever pay for their crime. And it's shameful that no one who knows will ever come forward and give credible evidence. Sickening.
Juryman

Utica, NY

#17 Sep 19, 2013
It's a cold case. Sad but true. The more time goes on the less likely it will be solved. But the real murderer will rot in hell, solved or not.
klang

Utica, NY

#18 Sep 19, 2013
"klang goes the cell door..."

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Waterville, NY

#19 Sep 19, 2013
thoughts wrote:
It will never be "solved". I think it's actually was solved way back when but covered up. The real murderer had some relation to the UPD (Cop's kid or something) and they used Barnes as a scapegoat. But the real murderer will never be brought to justice. Ever.
Ofthe3peoplequestionedbythecop satthetime,2ofthemhadfatherswh owereUticacops.
smash the mirror tommy

Utica, NY

#20 Sep 19, 2013
"welcome to the camp...
you know why were all here...
the name is tommy...
and he likes to play with young mens balls..."
For The Record

Utica, NY

#21 Sep 19, 2013
Thats Utica wrote:
Judge Cardamone was it? Pompous windbag that should have never been given the bench. He was corrupt Mafia just like the rest of the douches on the UPD and DA's office. All of them involved in a huge conspiracy. God knows how many innocent people they sent to prison over the years.
This was not a UPD case. Belongs to the Oneida County Sheriff's Dept. Also, the night she disappeared/was murdered, they dispatched a Deputy to the Mohawk St area regarding a female screaming. The next morning, a deputy was supposedly exercising his K-9 in that same area, and accidentally found her body. Gee, what a co-incidence!!

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