Palmieri, your roads sux.

Palmieri, your roads sux.

Posted in the Utica Forum

Nick

Ithaca, NY

#1 Jan 16, 2014
Wow, never seen worse streets in my life of being around Utica. Shame on all you clowns.
Truth

Utica, NY

#2 Jan 16, 2014
A number of years ago a referendum was passed by the voters of Utica that mandated $2 million a year be allocated for paving. Last year the mayor and common council left that out in order to better balance the budget and stay under the cap. How do they get away with that?
Stop

Ithaca, NY

#3 Jan 16, 2014
Roads in the city terrible .. Haven't been paved in years now they ALL are starting to crumble at the same time ..
What the hell are theses clowns doing with our tax payer money ?
Enough with the public safety baloney .. They are over paid !!!
Truth

Utica, NY

#4 Jan 16, 2014
Paving that's a part of the sewer improvements should not be counted in the $2 million.
Ron

Ithaca, NY

#5 Jan 16, 2014
City hires cheap, terrible contractors like North Paving. That part of genny was just redone a year ago and the whole road is coming up. Palmieri's buddies from north paving. Tax money wasted again.
Truth

Utica, NY

#6 Jan 16, 2014
Ron wrote:
City hires cheap, terrible contractors like North Paving. That part of genny was just redone a year ago and the whole road is coming up. Palmieri's buddies from north paving. Tax money wasted again.
Any contractor is going to do whatever they can to cut corners in order to increase profit. That's just how contractors are.

Don't put all the blame on the contractors though.

There is a specification for paving just like there is for any construction. It is the responsibility of the city of Utica to provide the construction oversight and inspection that would ensure compliance with the specification. What this means, given the state of Utica's streets, is that either the specification is inadequate for our climate or, the city is not doing a good job of inspecting and making sure that the contractor performs to the specification.
odsuxs

Ithaca, NY

#7 Jan 16, 2014
Andy the city inspector who drives a grey vehicles that looks 50 years old, has no balls at all.
Truth

Utica, NY

#8 Jan 16, 2014
odsuxs wrote:
Andy the city inspector who drives a grey vehicles that looks 50 years old, has no balls at all.
Andy?
Andy who?
Exactly what I thought

Ardsley, NY

#9 Jan 16, 2014
The mayor has been in for a year now and the crumbling roads are his fault? The guy inherited a mess...not going to fix it overnight!
Yes

Ithaca, NY

#10 Jan 16, 2014
Blame Rofero and Julian and Hanna .... Shit mayors
Bbo

Forest Hills, NY

#11 Jan 16, 2014
The mayor needs to start listening to the governor and consolidating services like an extreme couponer. Can't have all this duplication of labor with high union benefits as the roads remain unplowed and unpaved. No excuses to not pave and plow, including budget...if you don't have the budget to do these things, consolidate purchasing, payroll, tax collection, DPW, etc, personel and programs to manage things tighter....but please take care of the roads.
Wesley

Ithaca, NY

#12 Jan 17, 2014
Yes wrote:
Blame Rofero and Julian and Hanna .... Shit mayors
Palmieri is by far the worst crook that has been mayor of Utica. Hanna was the best, by far. He was a leader who worked for the people. Palmieri works for 1 person, himself. I will avoid Utica because of the roads, and I do. I will not shop in Utica anymore. The roads are washed out and all holes. It will ruin your car, fact.
Wesley

United States

#13 Jan 17, 2014
Hey Palmieri!! Can I rub your peenis?
Truth

Utica, NY

#14 Jan 17, 2014
Exactly what I thought wrote:
The mayor has been in for a year now and the crumbling roads are his fault? The guy inherited a mess...not going to fix it overnight!
You're right. The streets didn't get this way just since he started his term but, leaving the $2 million for paving (mandated per the referendum of a few years ago) out of the budget certainly does make the problem worse. Not insisting on competent oversight and inspection of the paving that does get done certainly doesn't help either.
Wesley

Ithaca, NY

#15 Jan 17, 2014
Try he has been in for 2 years now not 1 and genny was paved under his watch and the whole street from price chopper to st. elizabeth is washed away. THE ROAD IS GONE, what dont you get. He hired friends who did a shit job (North Paving Co.).
Truth

Utica, NY

#16 Jan 17, 2014
Wesley wrote:
Try he has been in for 2 years now not 1 and genny was paved under his watch and the whole street from price chopper to st. elizabeth is washed away. THE ROAD IS GONE, what dont you get. He hired friends who did a shit job (North Paving Co.).
Don't they bid the work?
Are you saying that the bid process is rigged? That's a pretty strong accusation. Seems like other bidders would have spoken up if there was any hint of impropriety.
The mayor can't just hire a contractor. That's not how it works.

Isn't there any kind of warranty included in the paving contracts?

The problem isn't limited to just the contractor who does the paving either. Take a closer look at the streets and what you find is a patchwork quilt of repairs done by the Water Board, the DPW and any other contractor hired to do any kind of subsurface work. It's pretty obvious that in many cases these others do less than a stellar job in leaving it the way they found it.

I still think that inspection and oversight at the time of installation has everything to do with how long the streets hold up after paving. That's not the mayor.
Wesley

Ithaca, NY

#17 Jan 17, 2014
Oh yes it is the mayor. He is the boss of the city and inspectors who work for the city. The blame is the mayors. I do agree the waterboard ruins the streets and there repair work is terrible.
Truth

Utica, NY

#18 Jan 17, 2014
Wesley wrote:
Oh yes it is the mayor. He is the boss of the city and inspectors who work for the city. The blame is the mayors. I do agree the waterboard ruins the streets and there repair work is terrible.
Then you agree that the mayor did not just hire his friends for the paving as you said previously? And, that it can't happen that way because of the bid process right? And, if it were to happen the way you said that the other bidders would be rightly upset and say something about it right?

I guess you are right about the accountability though. The buck does stop with the mayor for anything in the city. Maybe he's just not familiar with the process and what that process SHOULD look like when it comes to paving.
geo

Ithaca, NY

#20 Jan 18, 2014
Eagle st from Mohawk st heading west was paved last november, 14 months ago under Palmieri watch and the road is washed out. All the new road layer is all coming off. Another waste of money. Shaby job.
frowns

Syracuse, NY

#21 Jan 18, 2014
an to add the bar 2js is a sore eye not to say how many people happen to die at this place and still it remains open

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