Things will never change in Utica

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64 Vette

New York, NY

#1 Dec 20, 2007
This City will always be what it is . Look at the Majority of the people that live here. I will bet over half dont work and most of the rest have wal-mart type jobs, and then there is the very few that have decent jobs.

75% of the people in this city dont give a crap and most of them rent from landlords that dont even live around here, so every administration is fighting a loosing battle in believing they can work some Miracle that the last administration couldnt do.

Each administration will Fatten there pockets and there buddies pockets and try to fool us with big promises into thinking they are going to deliver the goods. Nobody in this city gets hired for how good they are or what they know,that is the biggest problem. To many unqualified people getting handed these positions because a new team is moving in and favors need to be handed out!!! This is why things are so cut throat.

How about accepting resumes and hire the best qualified person for the job ?? And who cares if they dont live in the city !!!! If they can do a better job than who cares !!!

Bottom line here is The City of Utica will only be as good as the people that live here. END OF STORY.
64 Vette

New York, NY

#2 Dec 20, 2007
Well said
64 Vette

New York, NY

#4 Dec 20, 2007
Frank, I am talking about two different things here.

Level 1

Since: Oct 07

Wilacre Park, CA

#5 Dec 20, 2007
We're thinking it will change eventually. The economic evolution we're in the midst of will 'cull the herd' to some degree. The rest are going to retire from outright public embarassment.

Way up here in 2007 it'll be 'survival of the fittest' in this information age, and if you're on the take... sooner or later, you're fucked!

Glad to have helped set the new tone!
backspace

Geneva, NY

#6 Dec 20, 2007
I wonder how many other communities have ciyizens who feel the same way that devo does about where they live. bottom line is people will always be negative about the place they call home. its strange to have this self loathing but for some reason we do and i am afraid it is the one thing that will hold us back. more relocated citizens are the answer. people woh have seen how crappy so many other places are love it here because of the myriad of benefits and resources that this city offers. i am one of those people. born in the mid west, lived in the west and the south and for my money, would not trade little old utica for any of them. devo should travel more. he might get a different perception on his home if he knew how lousy it is in so many other places
64 Vette

New York, NY

#7 Dec 20, 2007
Reality sucks dont it ? I only speak the truth of " The way it is " You can look at a glass and say it is half full

I can look at it and say it is half empty, your still left with the same results.

It doesnt matter "how i say it" These are the realistic facts about this city and others im sure we are not alone.

Just like the song from Bruce hornsby " Thats just the way it is some things will never change"

We just move on and deal with it.
Captain Insaneo

Clifton Springs, NY

#8 Dec 20, 2007
I think the only way someone could feel positive about Utica is if they are commuters and take the main thouroughfares home. If anyone travels through our entire community they would share in the disgust that Steve and myself share.

I would like for the herd to be culled as Utica Sux mentions. That way many undesirables would be leaving the community and that would hopefully ease the burden on the taxpayers.
JOJO

Rome, NY

#9 Mar 14, 2009
The current Dir. of Fine Arts is a glorified music teacher making a six figure salary going to concerts, ordering supplies and backstabbing underlings while she smiles in their face.Mr. Willis has only been here a short time but he already wise to what's going on in the Admin. Bldg.Get rid of the self serving dead wood like C. Brown who set up the "Love-in" at the last board meeting even using children to try and save her job.The taxpayers are on this nonsense and it's time to stand up to the unions gouging the people who pay the freight. good by Mrs.Brown and good riddance!
old timer

New York, NY

#10 Mar 15, 2009
i remember when dudley ave. had more cars driving in the street than people walking in it.
stupidka

Syracuse, NY

#11 Mar 15, 2009
You people seem to think government is not only the problem but the solution. As long as your checks keep coming every month I don't see what you possibly have to complain about.
Sasquatch

United States

#12 Mar 15, 2009
Don't worry..Obama's got your back!
Boogity

Utica, NY

#13 Mar 15, 2009
Boogity boogity boogity boogity shoop
Mr Move out

AOL

#14 Mar 15, 2009
We have to all just move out of here now in spring of 09!! They can all have this little ass city!!! Bye Bye!
tin man

New York, NY

#15 Mar 16, 2009
things will never change because this city is to corrupt.When all the tax money comes in the cronies all fill there pockets, and if there's anything left thats what they run the city on.I say every person that works for the city should be drug tested, and then hire people who really,really want to work
Utica Import

AOL

#16 Nov 21, 2009
Really Sir you live or are suspect to live in Ilion. Talk about no jobs a terrible school system in the National standards rating. And economic restraint. Take a look at Herkimer County and where they fall on poorest in the state and not to mention highest rate of unemplotment and welfare recipients, oh and lets not forget the domestic violence police responses. As well as the little known political facts in your village. Perhaps you should check your own back yard before throwing stones in someone elses!

64 Vette wrote:
Reality sucks dont it ? I only speak the truth of " The way it is " You can look at a glass and say it is half full
I can look at it and say it is half empty, your still left with the same results.
It doesnt matter "how i say it" These are the realistic facts about this city and others im sure we are not alone.
Just like the song from Bruce hornsby " Thats just the way it is some things will never change"
We just move on and deal with it.
White Cracker

Auburn, NY

#17 Nov 21, 2009
Utica is as good as you want to make it. If you think positive you can make things happen. If you choose to talk and act negitive then it will be negitive.
Guido

Victor, NY

#18 Nov 22, 2009
JOJO wrote:
The current Dir. of Fine Arts is a glorified music teacher making a six figure salary going to concerts, ordering supplies and backstabbing underlings while she smiles in their face.Mr. Willis has only been here a short time but he already wise to what's going on in the Admin. Bldg.Get rid of the self serving dead wood like C. Brown who set up the "Love-in" at the last board meeting even using children to try and save her job.The taxpayers are on this nonsense and it's time to stand up to the unions gouging the people who pay the freight. good by Mrs.Brown and good riddance!
Your post might be interesting if you could restate it so we could fully understand what situation you are talking about.
Charlie

Victor, NY

#19 Nov 22, 2009
Utica politicians have always been part of the good old boys club and somewhat corrupt. It started when the Mafia hand influence over who got elected and hasn't changed. The one thing that would turn Utica around is attracting industry and creating jobs. Does anyone have a a serious thought to share about why Utica and Oneida County can't attract employers?
Why

AOL

#20 Nov 22, 2009
Utica is not unique in that it has troubles attracting employers. At one point Utica had a strong Mfg. base but those jobs have moved over seas and their has been little done to attract new business. Most manufactures that are looking to expand (very few) do not consider CNY for many reasons. The cost of doing business in NY is high, no viable airport for their exectives to get in and out of, a climate that will cause missed days of production or at least slow it down, Those choosing what location they will be in simply don't want to live in CNY, unions, declining pouplation, corrupt politactions etc.

Their are just to many better choices for business to go their. Just look at the cities in this country that are growing and that is where you find new business and jobs...

Sorry to say this as i have lived all over, and done business in Utica over the years and i have to say that it is one of the most depressing places to be i have ever been. I spend a few weeks a year their to see friends and do business, i come up to enjoy winter for a week or so but continue to be amaized at the sad mood that most people seem to have and it's getting worse. It's depressing.
mr humor

Ithaca, NY

#22 Nov 23, 2009
and they could spell too...ie (mofia)
guess thats why historians refer to them as a bunch of "goodspellars"
concerned citizen wrote:
when the actual MOFIA was running the city... there where alot of jobs, now what? Thank you!

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