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Answer me this: Grade inflation has been rampant over the last four decades yet we are ranked number 16 in the world in education. Why? There's a disconnect. We can brag we're No 1, but the truth is we are far from it.
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Nov 16, 2013
 

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Don't think we are number one in anything anymore. A lot of smoke and mirrors........
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Scoreboard wrote:
Answer me this: Grade inflation has been rampant over the last four decades yet we are ranked number 16 in the world in education. Why? There's a disconnect. We can brag we're No 1, but the truth is we are far from it.
The last two rankings I saw had the US at 27th and 31st.
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Educated Parent wrote:
What I am suggesting is that we keep our kids home on the day of the tests. This way they will not be missing any instructional time. The tests do not benefit the kids. These tests are being used as a basis of evaluating teachers and schools. My children do not need to spend an entire day taking a test that is meaningless to them. If the state wants to test teachers, let the teachers take the tests.
Just like students, teachers may be good or bad at taking tests. The measure of a good teacher is not how they do on a test but how well they are conveying the required information to the children. The only way to know that is to test the children.

In addition, it's for more than evaluating teachers and schools. It measures the achievement level for children of different states, different socio-economic backgrounds and ethnicities as a means for comparison. It also reveals where education dollars are being spent well and where they may need to be spent differently.

Keeping the children home on test day defeats the purpose of standard testing and makes the situation worse. The more information we can get regarding achievement, the better we can judge what to do next. That purpose being a better educational outcome for more students.

College professors complain that high school graduates aren't ready for college because they lack the prerequisite math, communication and critical thinking skills required. Employers complain that college gradutates are unprepared for the workplace for the same list of reasons. That trend has to be reversed and it starts with children when they are young.

Keep your children home on test day if you want but certainly don't for a moment believe you aren't doing harm. You are.
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#46
Nov 17, 2013
 
You're right history Don't lie. for someone so against cny you sure have the grammar down. lmao
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#47
Nov 17, 2013
 
Truth wrote:
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Just like students, teachers may be good or bad at taking tests. The measure of a good teacher is not how they do on a test but how well they are conveying the required information to the children. The only way to know that is to test the children.
In addition, it's for more than evaluating teachers and schools. It measures the achievement level for children of different states, different socio-economic backgrounds and ethnicities as a means for comparison. It also reveals where education dollars are being spent well and where they may need to be spent differently.
Keeping the children home on test day defeats the purpose of standard testing and makes the situation worse. The more information we can get regarding achievement, the better we can judge what to do next. That purpose being a better educational outcome for more students.
College professors complain that high school graduates aren't ready for college because they lack the prerequisite math, communication and critical thinking skills required. Employers complain that college gradutates are unprepared for the workplace for the same list of reasons. That trend has to be reversed and it starts with children when they are young.
Keep your children home on test day if you want but certainly don't for a moment believe you aren't doing harm. You are.
Excellent! You should be getting kudos from open-minded parents and teachers who want their kids challenged. This is America, for God sakes. Don't we want to ne challenged?
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Syracuse, NY

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Nov 17, 2013
 

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Obama created this by executive order. Funny how 80% of union members voted for him. Sometime you get what you reap
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Scoreboard wrote:
Answer me this: Grade inflation has been rampant over the last four decades yet we are ranked number 16 in the world in education. Why? There's a disconnect. We can brag we're No 1, but the truth is we are far from it.
. Foreign countries DON'T educate everybody. Touring educators from Japan were shocked that we educated everyone. Overseas not everybody goes college bound. After a test some are steered towards vocational track, if they don't score high enough. They teach rote memory in Korea. High schoolers are in school 8-4, then go to tutoring. Suicide rate in those two countries is the highest in the world amongst teenagers. We also count the results of kids in special ed and ESL. They don't. So scoreboard, get your facts before you bash U.S. teachers.
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Nov 17, 2013
 

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Plus scoreboard, how do you know grade inflation is rampant? You don't.
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Nov 17, 2013
 

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Our outdated curriculum needs to change. Global studies should be an elective. All students don't need algebra or geometry. Our kids can't add, subtract, multiply, and divide. Or write a coherent sentence. Or read age appropiately.
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#52
Nov 17, 2013
 
If teachers want to keep their kid home want don't they stay home as well
Truth

Utica, NY

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#53
Nov 18, 2013
 
Looks like common sense prevailed.
From the OD:
"By KESHIA CLUKEY
Observer-Dispatch
Posted Nov 18, 2013 @ 01:09 PM
Last update Nov 18, 2013 @ 01:39 PM

When Jenny Wameling asked her kindergartener and second-grader if they wanted to stay home from school Monday she got a resounding,“Never!”

The New Hartford mother gave her children the option of skipping school in protest of the Common Core Learning Standards as part of “Keep Your Kids Home from School Day.”

“I’m just afraid my kids are going to get burnt out,” she said.

Wameling said her children’s answer showed that teachers are trying to keep their students out of the controversy, even if they themselves feel differently about the standards.

On Monday — the first day of American Education Week — parents and students in participating states, including New York, hoped to send a message to state and federal government about their disdain for Common Core and their concerns about over-testing.

Implementation of the more rigorous education standards began last school year for grades three through eight and will be included in high school English language arts and Algebra 1 Regents exams in June.

Though the “National Don’t Send Your Child to School Day” Facebook group showed nearly 6,500 people were planning to participate Monday afternoon, local school districts said they saw little difference in attendance rates.

“There was no substantial difference, no significant change from a week ago at this time,” said Lori Eccleston, Utica City School District director of curriculum and instruction.

The Utica City School District and New York Mills Union Free School District saw no real change in attendance, and the New Hartford Central School District had less than one percent of students call in stating the protest as their reason for being absent, district officials said.

A similar thing happened last year when some parents said they planned to opt their children out of the state testing, but few actually did so.

“There’s so much momentum and then they never really come to fruition,” Eccleston said.

New York Mills Union Free School District Superintendent Kathy Houghton said she was happy to see the students were in school.

She agreed with the need for conversation with students, but not opting out of school.

“It’s a really bad example to encourage them to stay home when they’re struggling with a new curriculum,” she said.

The group Opt Out CNY held a meeting at the New Hartford Public Library for parents who kept their children home from school Monday, but few showed up."

Read more: http://www.uticaod.com/features/x1783718262/C...
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#54
Nov 18, 2013
 
How many pimped their kids for common core today.
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I love the guy who said he took his kid to the library today in support of skip school today so he could get quoted in the paper. What a self serving idiot.
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Anyone who sends their child to public schools should be arrested for child abuse.
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#58
Nov 20, 2013
 
Attended wrote:
<quoted text>outsider. Obviously what we are discussing is way over your head so keep your ignorant comments to yourself. You show your stupidity with what you say. Our children's education is at stake here and what the state is pushing will only hurt our kids. If you can get your hands on some of the new math modules read them and try to answer the math questions as they now require the kids to. I guarantee you that you can't do it.
You don't get it, do you? The state pushing will hurt the kids? Really? Our kids' status after decades of not being pushed has us ranked globally around #30. YET, we claim to be No. 1 in freaking everything. The Asians and Europeans don't seem to mind being pushed.
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#59
Nov 20, 2013
 
butt weet wrote:
Plus scoreboard, how do you know grade inflation is rampant? You don't.
WHAT?? Where TF have you been the last 30-40 years? Google "grade inflation" and you'll discover just how clueless you are regarding the subject.

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