Operation Logjam did nothing!

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Sir Sniffalot

Englewood, CO

#1 Jul 26, 2012
DEA is wasting taxpayer dollars as usual. Designer drugs are now manufactured underground and sold by street dealers. Shutting down head shops is only killing small business and the economy. I purchased my salts in Utica today as usual without any problem. You morons took away a taxable product and gave the money to the street dealers. These products are now available 24 hours a day and most dealers will deliver them to your door. Great job guys!
Funny

Utica, NY

#2 Jul 27, 2012
Sir Sniffalot wrote:
DEA is wasting taxpayer dollars as usual. Designer drugs are now manufactured underground and sold by street dealers. Shutting down head shops is only killing small business and the economy. I purchased my salts in Utica today as usual without any problem. You morons took away a taxable product and gave the money to the street dealers. These products are now available 24 hours a day and most dealers will deliver them to your door. Great job guys!
Anyone else hear the name of this and think "Big Lebowski?"
communist america

United States

#3 Jul 27, 2012
The D.E.A. seized legal products and then claims they made a huge bust. The american government is corrupt. Desperate politicians will do anything to look good when elections are looming.
psychedelicphil

Clear Lake, SD

#4 Jul 28, 2012
i was one of those raided....a legitament business. pay taxes and helping my local economy. everyone threw the door got carded. they confiscated everything i owned and worked for for the last 30 years. what gives them the rite! i gave ten years of my life to protect this country now they rape me and want to put me away for life. what a fucked up government we have. all they are doing is protecting their cartel buddies!!!
k rock sells bath salts

Hendersonville, NC

#5 Jul 28, 2012
Exactly right did nothing except moved product to the streets so f u ny no taxes for your greedy asssss thx now its cheaper and still everywhere ask around its easy to find ....real big bust dea had no local arrest and confiscating legal product basically stealing from business ....oh yeah that's the government s job
Drink this bath water

Chittenango, NY

#6 Jul 28, 2012
psychedelicphil wrote:
i was one of those raided....a legitament business. pay taxes and helping my local economy. everyone threw the door got carded. they confiscated everything i owned and worked for for the last 30 years. what gives them the rite! i gave ten years of my life to protect this country now they rape me and want to put me away for life. what a fucked up government we have. all they are doing is protecting their cartel buddies!!!
Maybe you should've stayed in the military where your superiors made all your decisions because here in the real world you fcuked up! Govt isn't your problem pal. Myself and every clear thinking mother and father I know want you put away for life.(Except of course for those who wish you dead)
what

Batavia, NY

#7 Jul 28, 2012
Huh? What's that mean?
reality

United States

#8 Jul 28, 2012
The news only reports the bad. Where are stories about the 99.999% that use these products and live normal lives? I have suffered from depression for 18 years. They have thrown every prescription medication out there at me with no success. These products have enhanced my quality of life. I am now happy, energetic and working again. This is something powerful prescription medications could not accomplish. We are not all zombies looking to eat someone! This would not be a billion dollar industry if all users ended up dead or in jail. Any substance abused causes problems. Drink a glass of wine with dinner and you're fine. Drink the entire bottle and you aresmashed. The manufactures and sellers would have listed the ingredients and recommended dosage, but by law they were NOT ALLOWED too. The sad thing is now your children are risking their lives in dark alleys and crime infested areas to purchase these products. Drugs don't go away, they just go underground.
mike

Syracuse, NY

#9 Jul 28, 2012
yep
k rock sells bath salts

Hendersonville, NC

#10 Jul 28, 2012
Exactly right im glad everything just got cheaper and o cam make a profit on it + no tx for nys this is the best thing that could have happened now people can get back to dealing old school without the over head pf workers comp unemployment insurance payroll utilities sales tax and employees thank ny for giving dealers back what was rightfully theres
screw the dea

Englewood, CO

#11 Jul 28, 2012
reality wrote:
The news only reports the bad. Where are stories about the 99.999% that use these products and live normal lives? I have suffered from depression for 18 years. They have thrown every prescription medication out there at me with no success. These products have enhanced my quality of life. I am now happy, energetic and working again. This is something powerful prescription medications could not accomplish. We are not all zombies looking to eat someone! This would not be a billion dollar industry if all users ended up dead or in jail. Any substance abused causes problems. Drink a glass+of+wine+with+dinner+and+ you're+fine.+Drink+the+entire+ bottle+and+you+aresmashed.+The +manufactures+and+sellers+woul d+have+listed+the+ingredients+ and+recommended+dosage,+but+by +law+they+were+NOT+ALLOWED+too .+The+sad+thing+is+now+your+ch ildren+are+risking+their+lives +in+dark+alleys+and+crime+infe sted+areas+to+purchase+these+p roducts.+Drugs+don't+go+away,+ they+just+go+underground.
+++++Well+said+my+friend
dogpile

United States

#12 Jul 28, 2012
Drink this bath water wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe you should've stayed in the military where your superiors made all your decisions because here in the real world you fcuked up! Govt isn't your problem pal. Myself and every clear thinking mother and father I know want you put away for life.(Except of course for those who wish you dead)
You are a clueless moron!
Dopers

Bay Saint Louis, MS

#13 Jul 29, 2012
All you dope heads need to get a life. Now that spice is gone, go to rehab. Don't turn to another drug. Aren't you tired of a substance ruling over you?
All Hale King Oboma

Yankton, SD

#14 Jul 29, 2012
Does no one see the real issue here? Reguardless of how you feel about the products being sold, the government is stepping in and seizing assets and money from people running a business completely above board. Legitimate business that are not breaking any laws. Doesn't anyone realize what our Constitution has been reduced to?
Schmuck Schoomer

Englewood, CO

#15 Jul 29, 2012
They blindsided the ignorant American public by fictitiously labeling everything "bath salts." The truth is they confiscated legal products and stole millions of dollars and assets from hardworking, law abiding American taxpayers.
bi polar chef

United States

#16 Jul 29, 2012
Dopers wrote:
All you dope heads need to get a life. Now that spice is gone, go to rehab. Don't turn to another drug. Aren't you tired of a substance ruling over you?
Wow. So its that easy, huh? Lemme ask you something: you ever been addicted to anything? I'm mean TRULY addicted. In every since of the word. Ciggarettes don't count.
bi polar chef

United States

#17 Jul 29, 2012
I suffer from bi polar disorder. Those of you who familiar with this disorder know what's up. For those that don't ill make it easy to understand. Imagine your mind constantly processing. Nonstop, 24/7/365. With each procession, the data gets more and more exaggerated on an exponentail level. To the point where you either feel on top of the world and bullet proof and you make a rash decision that lands you in a hospital bed or jail cell, or, to the piont where one simple minor mistake that you noticed yourself make can send you spiraling down a suicidal hellhole. I used to use a certain "herbal supplement" that was not legal (in some states) in conjunction with my meds. This was the only way I could get myself to eat, and, most importantly for bi polars, to help quiet mind long enough for me to fall asleep. I got hired on as a chef at a DOD contractor facility. So, obviously I couldn't use my normal supplement. I used "spice" or what have you for over a year on a daily basis, and I never turned into a zombie, I never bit out anyones throat, and most importantly I was able to function on a normal level in my day to day life. Now I'm just curious, how many more where able to do like me vs the overblown small percentage of ppl who could handle their sh*t?
bi polar chef

United States

#18 Jul 29, 2012
I meant to type couldn't. It won't let me go back and edit
rocco vertuccio

Cortland, NY

#19 Jul 29, 2012
don shipman and his wife said that operation logjam works great for them everytime!!!
a jay

Waterville, ME

#20 Jul 30, 2012
Dopers wrote:
All you dope heads need to get a life. Now that spice is gone, go to rehab. Don't turn to another drug. Aren't you tired of a substance ruling over you?
go to another AA meeting you narrow minded waste of space. Live and let live. It is the gift of free will that makes us all no diff from one another. who are you to say what is right or wrong. who are you people to say " i hope you get locked up"? if i want to stab my self with a hypo or blow lines, i can do so. there are a few individuals however who i guess you could say ruine it all for people like me, and you are one of them. get a hobby. buy some LEGOS or something, cuz you obv need to fill your time with things other than raising your blood pressure over euphoria seekers.

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