Soon We'll Pay $7 Gallon for Milk
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farmer brown

Schenectady, NY

#42 Dec 12, 2013
Subsidies wrote:
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Glad you took the time to read some of those articles. But you're still off base. Have you noticed the signs at the ends of corn rows around here in the summer time? They have codes on them. The codes tell what kinds of GMO corn is in that row.
I know for a fact that several farmers in the Valley use corn seed that is drought resistant and pest resistant. The pesticide built into the corn seeds by Monsanto actually causes the bugs' intestines to burst. The same farmers are spraying the corn if they think an infestation is coming. And have you heard of Round-up Ready corn and soy seeds? The seeds are modified to be resistant to Round-up, that stuff you spray in your driveway to kill weeds. This way the farmers can spray the entire field with Round-up to kill the weeds and not affect the corn.
That's the same corn being fed to local dairy cows. Those are the same cows that produce the milk that makes the cheese and ice-cream. Wal-Mart sold it for human consumption without any kind of labeling or warning. That's the same corn that's been banned in Australia, New Zealand, EU and several other countries.
What actually trickles down to your glass of milk is questionable. But add to it the cheese, the ice-cream, the cream in your coffee, the whipped cream on your ice-cream,the cream cheese on your bagel and it starts to add up.
yes i know what traited(bt) corn is. i plant some my self. the round up ready seed was developed to allow farmers to use safer herbicides and pesticides. i guess you get to pick your poison. either the gmo that is inserted into the seed or we spray a plethora of herbicides and pesticides over the top of the crop.either way there is a chance of the product making it into the food chains. what they are not telling you is these other countries are still using pesticides and chemicals that are banned in the us and in ny state. New York has the strictest guidelines for herbicide and pesticide use in the country. and all labels on the products have to be labeled for ny state. i to have a license to buy these products, but its very strict. do you prefer to go back to pesticide residues in you food??
Subsidies

Syracuse, NY

#43 Dec 12, 2013
farmer brown wrote:
<quoted text> do you prefer to go back to pesticide residues in you food??
But you don't have to pick your poison. We grow a lot of our own vegetables and use no pesticides, no fertilizer. The earth around here is rich enough and we get run off from farmer's field next door.

What we can't grow or keep for the winter months we buy organic. I don't drink milk but my family drinks organic milk. Some of it costs a little more but the prices seem to be leveling off over the past couple of years which will help make organic more affordable for anyone who already buys these items. And paying a few more cents per pound is worth it for the peace of mind.
vomets uc

Bedford, MA

#44 Dec 12, 2013
Subsidies wrote:
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But you don't have to pick your poison. We grow a lot of our own vegetables and use no pesticides, no fertilizer. The earth around here is rich enough and we get run off from farmer's field next door.
What we can't grow or keep for the winter months we buy organic. I don't drink milk but my family drinks organic milk. Some of it costs a little more but the prices seem to be leveling off over the past couple of years which will help make organic more affordable for anyone who already buys these items. And paying a few more cents per pound is worth it for the peace of mind.
on a small. Scale is easy. I know a couple people that farm organic, and its time consuming and not very efficient. Most people don't wanna bother as organic fertilizer and seed are hard to Come by. And to switch land from conventional to organic is a three year process.
Junk Eater

Utica, NY

#45 Dec 12, 2013
Don't care about milk. I buy soda.

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#46 Dec 13, 2013
Subsidies wrote:
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But you don't have to pick your poison. We grow a lot of our own vegetables and use no pesticides, no fertilizer. The earth around here is rich enough and we get run off from farmer's field next door.
What we can't grow or keep for the winter months we buy organic. I don't drink milk but my family drinks organic milk. Some of it costs a little more but the prices seem to be leveling off over the past couple of years which will help make organic more affordable for anyone who already buys these items. And paying a few more cents per pound is worth it for the peace of mind.
organic is fine if thats what you want and your land will allow it. in the corn belt where disease and insect pressure is the highest in the country, it simply is not an option. without bt corn there wood be a huge corn and food shortage in this country. they simply can not grow crops in these areas and get the yields they currently get without traited seed. there would be riots in the street because food prices would go outta sight........
Subsidies

Camillus, NY

#47 Dec 13, 2013
wackedandjacked wrote:
<quoted text> organic is fine if thats what you want and your land will allow it. in the corn belt where disease and insect pressure is the highest in the country, it simply is not an option. without bt corn there wood be a huge corn and food shortage in this country. they simply can not grow crops in these areas and get the yields they currently get without traited seed. there would be riots in the street because food prices would go outta sight........
There might be an argument there too. Crop sizes vary widely from one year to the next. Not too long ago there was a surplus of corn. In an effort to help the corn farmers, the government made it mandatory for methanol to be added to gas. Those requirements have since been eased.

Either way, I think the world would be better off with fewer bags of Doritos.

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#48 Dec 13, 2013
trust me, if even one of the corn belt states does not produce corn, you will have the same thing we did last year. and the entire corn belt needs bt corn. the north east can live without bt corn. the corn belt cant.

FTW Yall

“"Trust no one"”

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#49 Dec 13, 2013
ehhh wrote:
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Go eat some chocolate chip cookies or PBR sand which without milk and then tell me how much we don't need it...
PBR sandwiches get you tore up.

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