West Utica in the 70s-who/what do you...
Westie

Utica, NY

#904 Nov 11, 2014
My "extended" neighborhood......about a square mile of the city,'cause I hung out everywhere, and most of these people were on my paper route. Mostly last names will come up; families had up to 13 kids back then. <deep breath> Vogel, Balch, Kicinski, Zacieniuk, Koscinski (you'll see a lot of variations on this one), Dziekowicz, Stolarczyk, Nicewicz, Wilk, Hotaling, Sabo, Constantine, Tibbits, Duffy, Jonquil, Kowalski, Spencer, Janicke, Millbower, Harp, Hapanowicz, Cordo, Schulze, Raczynski, Goodhines, Szatko, Mrzlikar, Rakowski, Franz, Schlager, Stuhlman, Pawlinga, Riser, Nicol, Karwowski, Durr, Jeslow, Freel, Pasik, Scharf, Kicinski, Kozak, Gruszka, Testa. Oakey, Evans, Suita, Burns, Skrocki, Csagola, Aulbach, Brooks, Czaniewski, Tarkowski, Mahaffey, Gelfuso, Townsend, Abel, Matuczszcyk, Swiderski, Liebhaber, Marlenga, etc. and that's only to T. Green's!
There's the candy shop on the bottom of O'Brien Ave,. Kaleta's on Thorn St., The many paths and trails in Addison Miller woods, the Shack, Sheidelman's, Old burrstone Bridge, PLAV little league fields, the "closed off neighborhood" when Burrstone Road went to 4 lanes, the Laundromat at the corner of Thorn and York, York St. getting buried by snow drifts before the State planted trees, cutting through the State grounds (Or Utica College)/Ney Ave/St Joe's cemetery to get to Star's,
etc.
Not Nice

Clifton Park, NY

#905 Nov 11, 2014
I remember is still being a ghetto in the 70's.
Westie

Utica, NY

#906 Nov 11, 2014
Not nice (not smart?), English please. Or, did you have words deleted?
"I remember is still being a ghetto in the 70's".
That didn't make ANY sense. Please be more specific on your 3 or so points you brought up in so few words!
Not Nice

Clifton Park, NY

#907 Nov 11, 2014
Westie wrote:
Not nice (not smart?), English please. Or, did you have words deleted?
"I remember is still being a ghetto in the 70's".
That didn't make ANY sense. Please be more specific on your 3 or so points you brought up in so few words!
Sorry autocorrect. What I meant to say is I still remember it being a ghetto in the70's. Better?
Uhhhhh

New Hartford, NY

#908 Nov 11, 2014
It was not a ghetto in the 70s. It was a working class neighborhood, the operative word being work---yes, people who lived there then actually worked, unlike today where all they do is sit on a porch, get high, or get busted. The downfall of west Utica didn't happen until the late 80s and then progressed at a rapid rate as the lowlife swarmed there.
Not Nice

Clifton Park, NY

#909 Nov 11, 2014
Uhhhhh wrote:
It was not a ghetto in the 70s. It was a working class neighborhood, the operative word being work---yes, people who lived there then actually worked, unlike today where all they do is sit on a porch, get high, or get busted. The downfall of west Utica didn't happen until the late 80s and then progressed at a rapid rate as the lowlife swarmed there.
I disagree. I remember it being very ghetto and run down in the 70s. Somewhere as even as a child I knew i never would want to live there.
logos

New Hartford, NY

#910 Nov 11, 2014
Not Nice wrote:
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I disagree. I remember it being very ghetto and run down in the 70s. Somewhere as even as a child I knew i never would want to live there.
Instead now you live behind a computer in a basement...somewhere...living large. I stand by what I said. It got run down in the 80's
Not Nice

Clifton Park, NY

#911 Nov 11, 2014
logos wrote:
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Instead now you live behind a computer in a basement...somewhere...living large. I stand by what I said. It got run down in the 80's
Sorry to ruin your grand illusion but no I don't live behind a computer in my basement and west utica was a ghetto before the 70s actually.
rock

New Hartford, NY

#912 Nov 11, 2014
Not Nice wrote:
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Sorry to ruin your grand illusion but no I don't live behind a computer in my basement and west utica was a ghetto before the 70s actually.
cliffy, dude, how many hours have you been bemoaning the same point here...no way do you spend all your life behind a computer...lolol...
Not Nice

Worcester, MA

#913 Nov 11, 2014
rock wrote:
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cliffy, dude, how many hours have you been bemoaning the same point here...no way do you spend all your life behind a computer...lolol...
I guess I must spend the same amount of time here as you.
West Utica

Utica, NY

#914 Nov 12, 2014
Uhhhhh wrote:
It was not a ghetto in the 70s. It was a working class neighborhood, the operative word being work---yes, people who lived there then actually worked, unlike today where all they do is sit on a porch, get high, or get busted. The downfall of west Utica didn't happen until the late 80s and then progressed at a rapid rate as the lowlife swarmed there.
It was definitely not "ghetto" in the 70's. Consisted of a lot of nicer homes, safe neighborhood back then. Although today the neighborhood is slowly running down, it is still safe and a lot of the homes are well kept. Some affectionately called it "York Heights" lol.
Memories of that era..Washington School, then to Kernan for middle school and off to UFA., Addison Miller Pool (when it was a full size swimming pool), the playground that actually choreographed performances that were later put on at Murnane Field at the end of summer. Ordering pizza at Lyntons and eating it with friends in the field late at night (was safe then), great place to grow up.
ann m

New Hartford, NY

#915 Nov 12, 2014
West Utica wrote:
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It was definitely not "ghetto" in the 70's. Consisted of a lot of nicer homes, safe neighborhood back then. Although today the neighborhood is slowly running down, it is still safe and a lot of the homes are well kept. Some affectionately called it "York Heights" lol.
Memories of that era..Washington School, then to Kernan for middle school and off to UFA., Addison Miller Pool (when it was a full size swimming pool), the playground that actually choreographed performances that were later put on at Murnane Field at the end of summer. Ordering pizza at Lyntons and eating it with friends in the field late at night (was safe then), great place to grow up.
I agree. York Heights is still in great condition. Sounds like we grew up in the same era. Addison Miller pool was one of the fondest memories of summer that I have of my early childhood. The three diving boards, the 'deep end', swimming lessons every morning, night swims. Nice lifeguards--Cookie was one of the best. Great place to grow up, great place to have fun. Washington School was a great school and the fun of playing there after school was wonderful. Sorry that kids today have to experience the UCSD for what it has turned into.
lanceman

Irmo, SC

#917 Nov 14, 2014
Westie wrote:
My "extended" neighborhood......about a square mile of the city,'cause I hung out everywhere, and most of these people were on my paper route. Mostly last names will come up; families had up to 13 kids back then. <deep breath> Vogel, Balch, Kicinski, Zacieniuk, Koscinski (you'll see a lot of variations on this one), Dziekowicz, Stolarczyk, Nicewicz, Wilk, Hotaling, Sabo, Constantine, Tibbits, Duffy, Jonquil, Kowalski, Spencer, Janicke, Millbower, Harp, Hapanowicz, Cordo, Schulze, Raczynski, Goodhines, Szatko, Mrzlikar, Rakowski, Franz, Schlager, Stuhlman, Pawlinga, Riser, Nicol, Karwowski, Durr, Jeslow, Freel, Pasik, Scharf, Kicinski, Kozak, Gruszka, Testa. Oakey, Evans, Suita, Burns, Skrocki, Csagola, Aulbach, Brooks, Czaniewski, Tarkowski, Mahaffey, Gelfuso, Townsend, Abel, Matuczszcyk, Swiderski, Liebhaber, Marlenga, etc. and that's only to T. Green's!
There's the candy shop on the bottom of O'Brien Ave,. Kaleta's on Thorn St., The many paths and trails in Addison Miller woods, the Shack, Sheidelman's, Old burrstone Bridge, PLAV little league fields, the "closed off neighborhood" when Burrstone Road went to 4 lanes, the Laundromat at the corner of Thorn and York, York St. getting buried by snow drifts before the State planted trees, cutting through the State grounds (Or Utica College)/Ney Ave/St Joe's cemetery to get to Star's,
etc.
I am one of the names in your list. We moved to North Utica when the State took our house for the Burrstone Road expansion.

The names I know are: Vogel, Balch, Kicinsk, Dziekowicz, Stolarczyk, Nicewicz, Wilk, Hotaling, Sabo, Constantine, Tibbits, Goodhines, Pawlinga.

You surely remember Lewie's at the intersection of Burrstone and York?
meghan61

Utica, NY

#918 Nov 15, 2014
Potato hill wrote:
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She was teaching at Jefferson Elementary in N Utica. I think she said she was not married. She still looks great, and yes she's retirement age.
Miss Perkins became Mrs Scott by the time I was in 6th grade
cnt

Syracuse, NY

#919 Nov 16, 2014
Cusher wrote:
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Didn't Dellers burn down some time in the 70's?
Dellers burned down in the early 1980's I believe. Is that great Polish deli still there on Lenox ave? Shame what happened to West Utica, Whitesboro better start buying up property in lower Yorkville and leveling the homes or the blight will just spread into there and the school system will tank.
Kielbasa

Rome, NY

#920 Nov 17, 2014
Yes, The Polish Meat Market is still there. I shopped there every week years ago. I will no longer go to that area. The last straw was a bunch of punks on the corner near the store. When I came out they were looking in my car.(it was locked) Then driving down Lenox Ave. about 15 more punks walking in the road.(It was Summer time) and wouldn't move. I had to turn around and go the other way. Very Sad!
a alumni

Carthage, NY

#921 Nov 18, 2014
meghan61 wrote:
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Miss Perkins became Mrs Scott by the time I was in 6th grade
I was in miss perkins/scott class, all us kids went to her wedding at zion Lutheran church, a flute player played we only just begun it was awesome, hope she is doing well.
Stop Drooling Please

Clifton Park, NY

#922 Nov 18, 2014
I remember in the 70s all the mouth breathing mental patients walking around near the hospital. That was great.
TruckerMikee

Saratoga, CA

#923 Nov 22, 2014
GFS wrote:
familys from the west side , gilbertis, ulinskis, blairs, copperwheats, leneives, hannas, zdanawicz, reynolds, sikoras,jones,synkoski,schaub, centro,grabski,lason, stafanski,neri barns, more to come.
I remember the Hills , Fishers, Bells, flints, lyness, mc Allesters, Bosques, all in the kernans and faass ave areas...otherbnames I cant remember. This is now 2014...ive since moved out of utica almost 20 yrs now....I hear west side is just as bad as cornhill used to be....my parents still live there in whitesboro near heartw hill inn
night swimmer

Rensselaer, NY

#926 Nov 27, 2014
Westie wrote:
My "extended" neighborhood......about a square mile of the city,'cause I hung out everywhere, and most of these people were on my paper route. Mostly last names will come up; families had up to 13 kids back then. <deep breath> Vogel, Balch, Kicinski, Zacieniuk, Koscinski (you'll see a lot of variations on this one), Dziekowicz, Stolarczyk, Nicewicz, Wilk, Hotaling, Sabo, Constantine, Tibbits, Duffy, Jonquil, Kowalski, Spencer, Janicke, Millbower, Harp, Hapanowicz, Cordo, Schulze, Raczynski, Goodhines, Szatko, Mrzlikar, Rakowski, Franz, Schlager, Stuhlman, Pawlinga, Riser, Nicol, Karwowski, Durr, Jeslow, Freel, Pasik, Scharf, Kicinski, Kozak, Gruszka, Testa. Oakey, Evans, Suita, Burns, Skrocki, Csagola, Aulbach, Brooks, Czaniewski, Tarkowski, Mahaffey, Gelfuso, Townsend, Abel, Matuczszcyk, Swiderski, Liebhaber, Marlenga, etc. and that's only to T. Green's!
There's the candy shop on the bottom of O'Brien Ave,. Kaleta's on Thorn St., The many paths and trails in Addison Miller woods, the Shack, Sheidelman's, Old burrstone Bridge, PLAV little league fields, the "closed off neighborhood" when Burrstone Road went to 4 lanes, the Laundromat at the corner of Thorn and York, York St. getting buried by snow drifts before the State planted trees, cutting through the State grounds (Or Utica College)/Ney Ave/St Joe's cemetery to get to Star's,
etc.
wow, that is quite a list of names, many of my friend's families among them. You must have been delivering around the early 1960's. The closed off neighborhood was a small, largely Polish community, near Louie's grocery where we hung out after basketball at Addison Miller.
And of course, who could forget Lyntons and the great pizza and the two attractive daughters who went to Washington school.
The Risers, Mazza's , and Durrs - all lived on Mather I recall, Tarkowskis lived near a small grocery, cant recall the street name, possibly thorn, Brooks was across from Addison Miller and Oakey was around the corner.

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