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#24 Jan 19, 2013
Utica Viscount wrote:
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The greater point is that this slippery slope towards banning personal ownership of firearms is a laughable fantasy at best, and banning the most dangerous weapons is a reasonable response towards keeping everyone safe.
The scariest part of this whole controversy is how obsessed the American people seem to be with deadly weapons of war. It's almost sociopathic in nature. I couldn't imagine the reactions if someone said they were just a law-abiding VX gas enthusiast, but many in this country fetishize machines designed to maim and kill.
It amazes me that anyone would not be up in arms when a politician believes he is a dictator and pushes laws through late at night like some nightmarish ghoul.

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#25 Jan 19, 2013
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It amazes me that anyone would not be up in arms when a politician believes he is a dictator and pushes laws through late at night like some nightmarish ghoul.
You do know that the new law was passed in both the senate and assembly by democratically elected representatives and signed by the democratically elected governor, correct?

I don't know what sort of mental gymnastics caused you to believe such actions are dictatorial.

Or maybe it's one of those "it's only democratic if I agree with it!" things that the right is famous for.

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#27 Jan 19, 2013
Utica Viscount wrote:
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You do know that the new law was passed in both the senate and assembly by democratically elected representatives and signed by the democratically elected governor, correct?
I don't know what sort of mental gymnastics caused you to believe such actions are dictatorial.
Or maybe it's one of those "it's only democratic if I agree with it!" things that the right is famous for.
That's okay, the voters will shortly give him the boot. Unions don't like him, the gun owners don't like him. Now watch, Cuomo will push hydrofracking through and takes upstates electricity. Cuomo is a 1-term governor.
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#28 Jan 19, 2013
Utica Viscount wrote:
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You do know that the new law was passed in both the senate and assembly by democratically elected representatives and signed by the democratically elected governor, correct?
I don't know what sort of mental gymnastics caused you to believe such actions are dictatorial.
Or maybe it's one of those "it's only democratic if I agree with it!" things that the right is famous for.
Why did he feel the need to use a memo of necessity? No political "one-up-manship" on his agenda, was there? Why didnt the people of NY get time to review this and telk with tbeir legislators? Because Cuomo knew it probably would NOT pass once we had a chance to call our representatives and tell them to vote no! You dont see that as dictatorial? Of course you dont. You agree with him.
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Utica, NY

#29 Jan 19, 2013
Oops. I have a couple of typos in my last response. Sorry Viscount. I guess that means I dont get to respond anymore...huh.
Remington

Utica, NY

#31 Jan 19, 2013
anyone taking pills will lose their guns

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#32 Jan 19, 2013
If anyone hasn't signed this petition, please do so. Thank you and stay strong. The fight isn't over yet.

http://www.nysenate.gov/webform/stand-second-...
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#33 Jan 20, 2013
Registration is only one tool. Background checks on ammo is the real deal to future confiscation! Now Cuomo and King Bloomberg can find your father and grandfathers guns that never will have a background check. The law doesn't specify what is considered high volume so do assume it's up to the police. A 100 rounds can easily be done in a weekend of target/sheet shooting or sighting in your guns! So are we going to have overzealous police knocking on our door harassing us or serving a warrant after a weekend at your shooting club. I hope Bloomberg realizes his bodyguards are only allowed 7 bullets now!
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Utica, NY

#34 Jan 20, 2013
Agree wrote:
Registration is only one tool. Background checks on ammo is the real deal to future confiscation! Now Cuomo and King Bloomberg can find your father and grandfathers guns that never will have a background check. The law doesn't specify what is considered high volume so do assume it's up to the police. A 100 rounds can easily be done in a weekend of target/sheet shooting or sighting in your guns! So are we going to have overzealous police knocking on our door harassing us or serving a warrant after a weekend at your shooting club. I hope Bloomberg realizes his bodyguards are only allowed 7 bullets now!
After the obamanation of a law called the NDAA they no longer need to knock or serve you a warrant.

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#35 Jan 20, 2013
I heard the rumor that the registration fee will be $50 for every gun at 5-year intervals.
Sunshine

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#36 Jan 20, 2013
So, gunman, How was the rally yesterday?
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Utica, NY

#38 Jan 20, 2013
NYGunman wrote:
I heard the rumor that the registration fee will be $50 for every gun at 5-year intervals.

The state of NY is now 63 billion in the hole ,is this their idea of debt reduction ? How do get to $63 billion debt? Deplorable inept leadership ,nuff said. NY gunman keep up the good work thanks
Well Well Well

Utica, NY

#40 Jan 20, 2013
I'm not NYG but I'll be leaving NYS soon. I don't want or need a nanny government that wants to regulate and charge for everything in sight.

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#41 Jan 20, 2013
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So, gunman, How was the rally yesterday?
I was not able to make it. It's 5-hours away. Instead I spent the day replying to misinformation and spreading the truth. There is another one scheduled for Feb. 22 that I'll attend. this one should be bigger as everyone has more time to plan for it

https://www.facebook.com/events/4176509849799...

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#42 Jan 20, 2013
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The state of NY is now 63 billion in the hole ,is this their idea of debt reduction ? How do get to $63 billion debt? Deplorable inept leadership ,nuff said. NY gunman keep up the good work thanks
Cuomo is not a financial genius. He cut state worker's pay without cutting taxes and transferred money to his friends. Of course there is going to be a reduction in taxes collected because state workers are taxpayers too and they spend their money in the state which the local businesses pay taxes out of and spend again. In a couple months I predict he'll try to downsize more state agencies. We need to get this joker out of office.

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#43 Jan 20, 2013
Ian Hob wrote:
<quoted text>Do you need to reside in New York NYG?
I don't know but it couldn't hurt.

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#44 Jan 20, 2013
Well Well Well wrote:
I'm not NYG but I'll be leaving NYS soon. I don't want or need a nanny government that wants to regulate and charge for everything in sight.
I'm thinking about it too. I'm not going to register my guns so the best option is for me to move. First I'm going to fight like hell though so I don't have too.

Please join the NRA and/or the NYSPRA. I don't agree with everything the NRA says or does but they are the only chance to regain our rights. On Tuesday they are filing legal action against the new laws.

Unfortunately I know people that can't just pick up and move. Some say they won't register and will hide their stuff. It's a terrible state when our governor turns upstanding, law-abiding citizens into criminals.

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#45 Jan 20, 2013
Below is a link to an article PROOVING that the ultimate goal is gun confiscation.

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2495/ny...
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#46 Jan 20, 2013
100 percent wrote:
Correct. The writing is on the wall but only a few see it. I bet every person that was at the AT&T store when the salesman was shot is glad there was a good guy with a gun to stop him. If not how many employees would be dead?
Go one step further about the att store is why that store and not others . First their employees should be trained not to mock or make fun of a odd person as he was ,they should be more professional ,as they are not very professional as I have dealt with them an they are childish especially the young female blond that works there.Abe was a odd nutty person who didnt need some imature person to set him off. Like I said you dont hear of any problems at other stores and I am sure he dealt with other stores.They still need a security guard at that Att store, I wonder why if abe is gone. Do they have a people problem.
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#47 Jan 20, 2013
sad wrote:
<quoted text>Go one step further about the att store is why that store and not others . First their employees should be trained not to mock or make fun of a odd person as he was ,they should be more professional ,as they are not very professional as I have dealt with them an they are childish especially the young female blond that works there.Abe was a odd nutty person who didnt need some imature person to set him off. Like I said you dont hear of any problems at other stores and I am sure he dealt with other stores.They still need a security guard at that Att store, I wonder why if abe is gone. Do they have a people problem.
I agree with you, but to bring a gun that if I remember right was not registered to shoot employees shows something was wrong with him. Didn't know him personally . He may have been a great guy who was pushed to far but only a few people may know what was going through his mind. Point is he was gonna shoot every salesperson per news reports. Sad situation any way u look at it

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