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Truth

Herkimer, NY

#26 Apr 5, 2014
wake up wrote:
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Poor soul. You are bereft of any knowledge as to the workings of state government. You may as well follow Alice down the rabbit hole.
In what way?
I know exactly how New York State government works and it stinks. Why do you think New York is in the state it is? She took a stand against all of that with her "No" vote. That distinguishes her form others who are nothing more than a rubber stamp for their party paymasters. Roann Destito was a faithful Democrat rubber stamp for years. She got her payback in the form of her well compensated position at OGS. With benefit of hindsight can anyone honestly say her constituents are better off now than when she took office? Are you saying that the go along to get along approach is better than standing up for those things you believe in? Better off for who? Claudia Tenney stood up to the status quo with her "NO" vote on the budget. I will grant that her vote was symbolic because of her minority status but would it be better for her to deny her fundamental beliefs and vote with the majority just so she could say she was reaching across the aisle? A lot of representatives of lesser character do that all of the time. Should she cave and follow the lead of our other local assemblyman and his left wing socialist agenda that in my opinion is very much the reason New York is failing economically? Talk about being led down the rabbit hole.

I know very well how politics work in New York and unless it changes the future holds nothing but business loss, job loss, population(the producing population) loss and pain for those who are left to foot the bill.
wake up

Herkimer, NY

#27 Apr 6, 2014
So, she will change the way of NYS (among others) govt works with her vote? Statement votes don't bring home the bacon. Without economic development money, nothing works.
You either go along to get alng, or go home.
Of course her vote means nothing, because she has no power of persuasion. She is a nobody in state politics so dhe matters not.
Never will.
You can have your "statement vote". It means nothing. Will bring no change in status quo
She is a laughable nobody and couldn't shine Hanna's shoes.
Truth

Utica, NY

#28 Apr 7, 2014
wake up wrote:
So, she will change the way of NYS (among others) govt works with her vote? Statement votes don't bring home the bacon. Without economic development money, nothing works.
You either go along to get alng, or go home.
Of course her vote means nothing, because she has no power of persuasion. She is a nobody in state politics so dhe matters not.
Never will.
You can have your "statement vote". It means nothing. Will bring no change in status quo
She is a laughable nobody and couldn't shine Hanna's shoes.
So then in your mind the answer is to cave and to go along to get along?
You said this-
"Without economic development money, nothing works."
If economic development money was the answer then New York would be the best place to do business and thousands would be flocking to New York to live and work. The opposite is true though. What does that say about the way New York conducts business? We need more politicians who aren't just going along in order to get along. We need more politicians who will vote their conscience and for the good of their constituents rather than making the calculation about what vote would be best for appearances and re-election.

Again, you said this-
"Without economic development money, nothing works."
Lower taxes, less regulation and less unions with their destructive influence on the process are what lead to economic success. Don't take my word for it. Take a look at right to work states that are prospering without massive taxpayer funded bribes to business. New York serves as an example for all to see of what not to do. New York is responsible for New York's position as the 50th most business friendly state out of 50. Economic development money can be an enticement but shouldn't stand as the only approach to attracting business. I for one am glad to see someone stand up to the status quo and vote for what is right.
wake up

Herkimer, NY

#29 Apr 7, 2014
Truth wrote:
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So then in your mind the answer is to cave and to go along to get along?
You said this-
"Without economic development money, nothing works."
If economic development money was the answer then New York would be the best place to do business and thousands would be flocking to New York to live and work. The opposite is true though. What does that say about the way New York conducts business? We need more politicians who aren't just going along in order to get along. We need more politicians who will vote their conscience and for the good of their constituents rather than making the calculation about what vote would be best for appearances and re-election.
Again, you said this-
"Without economic development money, nothing works."
Lower taxes, less regulation and less unions with their destructive influence on the process are what lead to economic success. Don't take my word for it. Take a look at right to work states that are prospering without massive taxpayer funded bribes to business. New York serves as an example for all to see of what not to do. New York is responsible for New York's position as the 50th most business friendly state out of 50. Economic development money can be an enticement but shouldn't stand as the only approach to attracting business. I for one am glad to see someone stand up to the status quo and vote for what is right.
Standing up for what is right is very admirable. However, you are so naïve to believe that attitude will attain desired results within the NYS political system or government.
I am sure that you are probably a good person; however, naïve.
You should be doing work in the Church; leave politics to someone who knows the score.
Truth

Utica, NY

#30 Apr 7, 2014
wake up wrote:
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Standing up for what is right is very admirable. However, you are so naïve to believe that attitude will attain desired results within the NYS political system or government.
I am sure that you are probably a good person; however, naïve.
You should be doing work in the Church; leave politics to someone who knows the score.
Not naive at all. I know exactly how things work. The state of politics is what it is precisely because of attitudes like yours. What if our founders had just thrown up their arms and said "this is too hard, we can never win"?

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Rome

#31 Apr 7, 2014
wake up wrote:
Standing up for what is right is very admirable. However, you are so naïve to believe that attitude will attain desired results within the NYS political system or government.
Truth wrote:
The state of politics is what it is precisely because of attitudes like yours. What if our founders had just thrown up their arms and said "this is too hard, we can never win"?
Drawing from the argument above, the logical solution is to abolish NY State government, replacing it with one more responsive to the needs of the people.
Who's with me?
Truth

Utica, NY

#32 Apr 7, 2014
frankcor wrote:
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Drawing from the argument above, the logical solution is to abolish NY State government, replacing it with one more responsive to the needs of the people.
Who's with me?
I am.

If I can't have that then I am for making upstate New York the 51st state. A right to work state and one probably more akin to Iowa than present day New York.
Real Cheese

Utica, NY

#34 Apr 8, 2014
Lookout, OINkers have decided to spend more on this race than they did to bury Dave T.

Thought you might like to know.
kissmyazz

Herkimer, NY

#35 Apr 8, 2014
WIBX wrote:
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Really smart guy? There is no Democrat in the race. The winner of the Primary is the next Congressman/woman. And Claudia, despite the liberal Republicans (Picente, Griffo, Hobaica, Hanna, etc.) BS, has proven she can win elections. She has beaten them time and again. George Joseph thought he could win with attacks on her being too tough in 2010. 57% later Claudia showed him that the GOP base wants a principled and touch conservative. But they still don't get it.
Again, keep up the attacks for her being too conservative. It only helps her in the primary.
Win elections? Have you forgotten that she lost by a landslide in every race for surrogate judge? Her first win was assemblywoman where she ran unopposed. Her second win against Brian Maher wasn't by a landslide either. She only got 800 votes from New Hartford.

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