City of Utica illegally placed no par...

City of Utica illegally placed no parking signs

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Don

Schenectady, NY

#1 Jul 19, 2013
I can't imagine how many people get ticketed by these signs.Park anywhere by the county office building and take notice of the no parking signs affixed to utility poles.Laws are put in place for everyone to follow including municipalities.NYS engineering and spec book says in section 645 and 730 that utility poles are not an approved sign post and may not be used by state or municipalities to affix a sign to.It is also in the MUTCD handbook.Manual of uniform traffic control devices.I would suggest anyone ticked by use of this illegal signage appeal these tickets and force the law makers to abide by their own laws.
No Free Parking

Enfield, CT

#2 Jul 19, 2013
What do u have blinders on when u park.....try looking around donny boy when u park, if a sign says dont park then dont park! For now just go pay ur $50 ticket LOL!!
Don

Schenectady, NY

#3 Jul 19, 2013
I have to say I'm not surprised by the comment posted by the person with limited intelligence.The point I'm trying to get across is that the laws apply even to those posting signs.A sign posted illegally may as well not even exist so if everyone that has been ticketed by these signs doesn't mind getting screwed by Utica just do nothing.Perhaps just maybe if people say something then Utica might follow the letter of the law.
Truth

Newington, CT

#4 Jul 19, 2013
You are semi correct. They are grandfathered in as they were in place before the laws
Don

Schenectady, NY

#5 Jul 19, 2013
They are not grandfathered in.Utility poles are owned by non governmental parties and are not approved structures for signage.There are guidelines for sign placement.The city is just taking advantage of the pole placement.Check the laws.
No Free Parking

Hartford, CT

#7 Jul 19, 2013
Don u r such a tool, stop ur ranting and raving and pay the ticket u got for ILLEGALLY parking, big deal u work for the county, maybe u hand out numbers to people in the welfare line!! I wish i gave u that ticket!! And i am very intelligent thank u, i deal w people all day that break The law and try to find a loophole in the system....they r called criminals donny boy!!
Don

Schenectady, NY

#8 Jul 20, 2013
These responses seem to be typical of the people who generally post here.Most posts on here are typically trashed by simpletons.My point was completely missed as the responders are nothing more than uneducated and probably receive assistance due to their inability to function as useful members of society.
Dumb don

Newington, CT

#9 Jul 20, 2013
Someone should punch your mama in the face!!,!
Say What

Gouverneur, NY

#10 Jul 20, 2013
No Free Parking wrote:
Don u r such a tool, stop ur ranting and raving and pay the ticket u got for ILLEGALLY parking, big deal u work for the county, maybe u hand out numbers to people in the welfare line!! I wish i gave u that ticket!! And i am very intelligent thank u, i deal w people all day that break The law and try to find a loophole in the system....they r called criminals donny boy!!
I think you meant to say that they're called lawyers.
hey

Great Barrington, MA

#11 Jul 20, 2013
Don wrote:
I have to say I'm not surprised by the comment posted by the person with limited intelligence.The point I'm trying to get across is that the laws apply even to those posting signs.A sign posted illegally may as well not even exist so if everyone that has been ticketed by these signs doesn't mind getting screwed by Utica just do nothing.Perhaps just maybe if people say something then Utica might follow the letter of the law.

Dude don't bash others when you can't spell ticketed right... They can put a sign wherever they want bc this is utica! Get used to it or get out! Or stop going to the county building to get food stamps with my money. When were those laws written 1930? Saves money to just use the utility pole! Hahaha
a taxpaper

Carthage, NY

#12 Jul 20, 2013
First of all, the Traffic Control person that writes all the numerous tickets in Utica is the nephew of the Police Chief and a wantabe cop.
Secondedly, in order to find a parking space around the County bldg., you are going to have to park blocks away and walk. If you have a handicap, get someone to drive you there and pick you up when your business is done.
Personally, I think it is a disgrace that the City of Utica does NOT provide enough parking spaces for their residents who have legitimate reasons to use the County bldg.
Where does all the money go when all these tickets get paid?
Serious

Little Falls, NY

#13 Jul 20, 2013
Why would the City of Utica provide parking for the Oneida County Office building?
graft dodger

Whitesboro, NY

#14 Jul 20, 2013
The wife and I, with another couple, decided to check out Varick St. We had dinner at one place and drinks at another. Got back to the car only to find a ticket. The sign was faded beyond reading and attached to a utility pole. We paid the fine but it will be the last money I spend down there. I know the people running the city don't care and it is contagious.
off center

Carthage, NY

#15 Jul 20, 2013
Don wrote:
I can't imagine how many people get ticketed by these signs.Park anywhere by the county office building and take notice of the no parking signs affixed to utility poles.Laws are put in place for everyone to follow including municipalities.NYS engineering and spec book says in section 645 and 730 that utility poles are not an approved sign post and may not be used by state or municipalities to affix a sign to.It is also in the MUTCD handbook.Manual of uniform traffic control devices.I would suggest anyone ticked by use of this illegal signage appeal these tickets and force the law makers to abide by their own laws.
the city posted three signs on bleecker street next to the boston store near the bus center and put them on a pole two on the north side and one on the south side of the street and get this their is a parking sigh pole that they took off the parking sign and then put the no parking sign on the telephone pole ? the city never approved them and still wont take them down they said they are not approved and they are going to be covered but that never happened? its clear they didnt approve the sign this is why they used the telephone pole and the the parking sign pole they is right there to use and then they wasted a 1 sign in the presses they even took a parking sign on the south side of the street if you go look you will see the empty sigh posts in the ground someone should sue
Off Center Loser

West Hartford, CT

#16 Jul 20, 2013
Well u seem to have nothing better to do but wander around downtown so why dont u?
Yeah Right

Utica, NY

#17 Jul 20, 2013
No Free Parking wrote:
Don u r such a tool, stop ur ranting and raving and pay the ticket u got for ILLEGALLY parking, big deal u work for the county, maybe u hand out numbers to people in the welfare line!! I wish i gave u that ticket!! And i am very intelligent thank u, i deal w people all day that break The law and try to find a loophole in the system....they r called criminals donny boy!!
A parking violation is just that. A VIOLATION, NOT a crime. You're NOT as intelligent as you think!!! So, you're a bartender, eh?!
don tbe hating

Gouverneur, NY

#18 Jul 24, 2013
Don is absolutely correct. What is needed is a class action lawsuit. If the city will not follow the law then the courts will make them. Contact an attorney. As for the negative posters get a life and brains
Common Council Representa

Syracuse, NY

#20 Jul 25, 2013
Presently the issues mentioned here regarding the signs posted on utility poles are taken under consideration. However, it should be noted that the City of Utica is losing money. When more and more drivers are obeying speed limits and not running red lights - the City of Utica cannot collect on what does not exist. In other words, no violations means no money. As a step toward fiscal preservation, representatives from the City of Utica, Chamber of Commerce, Utica PD and Dept. of Public Works, and the panel of city justices had a brainstorm in which 'no parking' signs would be used on utility poles. Again, this matter is being taken under consideration. However, it should be carefully noted that all parties agreed to "lower the standard" of revenue collection.
they arefamily

Carthage, NY

#21 Jul 25, 2013
Common Council Representa wrote:
Presently the issues mentioned here regarding the signs posted on utility poles are taken under consideration. However, it should be noted that the City of Utica is losing money. When more and more drivers are obeying speed limits and not running red lights - the City of Utica cannot collect on what does not exist. In other words, no violations means no money. As a step toward fiscal preservation, representatives from the City of Utica, Chamber of Commerce, Utica PD and Dept. of Public Works, and the panel of city justices had a brainstorm in which 'no parking' signs would be used on utility poles. Again, this matter is being taken under consideration. However, it should be carefully noted that all parties agreed to "lower the standard" of revenue collection.
did you go look? the sign is on a telephone poll and their is a empty parking sign poll right next to it?????
Rick

Holland Patent, NY

#22 Jul 25, 2013
Common Council Representa wrote:
Presently the issues mentioned here regarding the signs posted on utility poles are taken under consideration. However, it should be noted that the City of Utica is losing money. When more and more drivers are obeying speed limits and not running red lights - the City of Utica cannot collect on what does not exist. In other words, no violations means no money. As a step toward fiscal preservation, representatives from the City of Utica, Chamber of Commerce, Utica PD and Dept. of Public Works, and the panel of city justices had a brainstorm in which 'no parking' signs would be used on utility poles. Again, this matter is being taken under consideration. However, it should be carefully noted that all parties agreed to "lower the standard" of revenue collection.
So they're all in on it, rigged system... All they sell you is a polished turd... candy coated turds...

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