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Cretin Dave eats azzzz

New Hartford, NY

#22 Sep 24, 2013
Harbor Project Face wrote:
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I think the key first is filling the abandoned buildings first before building.
It's Cretin Dave above. He eats azzzz for a living. Lol.
Here is

Utica, NY

#23 Sep 24, 2013
Jared

Utica, NY

#24 Sep 24, 2013
Harbor Project Face wrote:
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I think the key first is filling the abandoned buildings first before building.
No doubt, and there are many different groups and people trying to restore existing buildings and attract people back to them. The sign is not just another empty building; it is a sign meant to attract people to the area. Whether it causes travelers to stop shortly in Utica for food/reststop/shopping or gets the attention of people with money willing to renovate [previously] beautiful houses doesn't matter. This structure's very purpose is to bring money, attention, and/or people to this abandoned area.

Many upstate NYers outside of this area don't even know Utica exists. Thanks to this sign, one drive on the Thruway between Syracuse and Albany will change that. It now stands out as the 2nd most noticeable landmark on that trip (after the Turningstone)
Harbor Project Face

Schenectady, NY

#25 Sep 24, 2013
Here is wrote:
http://uticapubliceye.com/inde x.php/utica-landmark-tower
I'm in awe! Lol
Harbor Project Face

Schenectady, NY

#26 Sep 24, 2013
Jared wrote:
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No doubt, and there are many different groups and people trying to restore existing buildings and attract people back to them. The sign is not just another empty building; it is a sign meant to attract people to the area. Whether it causes travelers to stop shortly in Utica for food/reststop/shopping or gets the attention of people with money willing to renovate [previously] beautiful houses doesn't matter. This structure's very purpose is to bring money, attention, and/or people to this abandoned area.
Many upstate NYers outside of this area don't even know Utica exists. Thanks to this sign, one drive on the Thruway between Syracuse and Albany will change that. It now stands out as the 2nd most noticeable landmark on that trip (after the Turningstone)
Yes. Many people don't know utica exists. They can't read the thruway signs?! Lol. The area is avoided for a reason. Lol
Jared

Utica, NY

#27 Sep 24, 2013
Harbor Project Face wrote:
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Yes. Many people don't know utica exists. They can't read the thruway signs?! Lol. The area is avoided for a reason. Lol
You'd be surprised. Most of my friends from college that are from Syracuse, Rochester, and Buffalo have never heard of it. Maybe it's a young person thing, maybe my friends are just idiots. haha who knows XD
Harbor Project Face

Schenectady, NY

#28 Sep 24, 2013
Jared wrote:
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You'd be surprised. Most of my friends from college that are from Syracuse, Rochester, and Buffalo have never heard of it. Maybe it's a young person thing, maybe my friends are just idiots. haha who knows XD
They haven't heard of it for a reason. A sign doesn't change that. Let's use this example. Let's say you're a person who has never heard of the mighty utica and it draws you in. You get off the thruway....then what? What captivates you as an outsider who just found Mecca? The happy journey? Lol
Jerry

Tully, NY

#29 Sep 24, 2013
Jared wrote:
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You'd be surprised. Most of my friends from college that are from Syracuse, Rochester, and Buffalo have never heard of it. Maybe it's a young person thing, maybe my friends are just idiots. haha who knows XD
I think your friends are the smart ones. This is nothing new. For ages, many people have not given much thought to Utica. There is nothing remarkable or outstanding about Utica. It is incredibly ordinary and has nothing that is really unique. Every single thing that you will find in Utica can be found anywhere else.(please don't tell me about riggies, half moons, tomato pie, etc.) All this half baked sign does is make Utica look even dumber than it already is. It is laughable. If Utica had anything worthwhile going on, you wouldn't need a light up sign to tell people where it is. Reputation and word of mouth says lots more. So far, the reputation is not a good one, and nobody ever says anything good about Utica.
Harbor Project Face

Schenectady, NY

#30 Sep 24, 2013
Jerry wrote:
<quoted text>I think your friends are the smart ones. This is nothing new. For ages, many people have not given much thought to Utica. There is nothing remarkable or outstanding about Utica. It is incredibly ordinary and has nothing that is really unique. Every single thing that you will find in Utica can be found anywhere else.(please don't tell me about riggies, half moons, tomato pie, etc.) All this half baked sign does is make Utica look even dumber than it already is. It is laughable. If Utica had anything worthwhile going on, you wouldn't need a light up sign to tell people where it is. Reputation and word of mouth says lots more. So far, the reputation is not a good one, and nobody ever says anything good about Utica.
The sign changes that!!! Lol
Cretin Dave says

New Hartford, NY

#31 Sep 24, 2013
Harbor Project Face wrote:
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The sign changes that!!! Lol
"I actually used to earn more when I worked in Utica."
Jared

Utica, NY

#32 Sep 25, 2013
Jerry wrote:
<quoted text>I think your friends are the smart ones. This is nothing new. For ages, many people have not given much thought to Utica. There is nothing remarkable or outstanding about Utica. It is incredibly ordinary and has nothing that is really unique. Every single thing that you will find in Utica can be found anywhere else.(please don't tell me about riggies, half moons, tomato pie, etc.) All this half baked sign does is make Utica look even dumber than it already is. It is laughable. If Utica had anything worthwhile going on, you wouldn't need a light up sign to tell people where it is. Reputation and word of mouth says lots more. So far, the reputation is not a good one, and nobody ever says anything good about Utica.
My friends are the smart ones because they don't know anything about Utica? Apparently not knowing things now make people smart? haha I'm not even going to go into that.

There is actually quite a bit that is remarkable about Utica. Utica used to be a major transportation hub and commercial center, due to its location and the Erie Canal. It was a major spot for textile production and It served as a major crossroads, drawing in many events and notable people. Later on, it became Nationally known for its corruption and crime. It was the original "Sin City".

Despite all the city's losses in the past 60 years, it is still a major spot of refugees and immigrants. The city is filled with many huge, beautifully constructed buildings (although most are rather run down and need a lot of fixing up at this point). Just because they're not maintained doesn't mean they aren't there.

Additionally, we're the gateway to the Adirondacks and, of course, we have our unique and delicious foods. I think this stuff is interesting, and is more than a lot of other cities can boast. We have a pretty cool history that has left a huge mark on the city.

I don't understand why you people are so ashamed of the area. Every area has it's ups and downs. Rochester for example has ridiculously high taxes, safety issues, and some of the highest murder rates in the state. Utica's main issue is a lack of money and population. Take some pride in your home for a change and try improving it. If you're sitting there complaining about how completely terrible Utica is and criticizing those who think otherwise, YOU are what is wrong with the area. Help improve the area and help turn things around instead of further destroying its reputation.

Bottom line: We have above-average potential due to our existing buildings in the city and location, we just lack money/business/population. If someone could figure out a way to attract some attention to the area, we could become quite an exceptional city.
Downtown Utica Face

Schenectady, NY

#33 Sep 25, 2013
Jared wrote:
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My friends are the smart ones because they don't know anything about Utica? Apparently not knowing things now make people smart? haha I'm not even going to go into that.
There is actually quite a bit that is remarkable about Utica. Utica used to be a major transportation hub and commercial center, due to its location and the Erie Canal. It was a major spot for textile production and It served as a major crossroads, drawing in many events and notable people. Later on, it became Nationally known for its corruption and crime. It was the original "Sin City".
Despite all the city's losses in the past 60 years, it is still a major spot of refugees and immigrants. The city is filled with many huge, beautifully constructed buildings (although most are rather run down and need a lot of fixing up at this point). Just because they're not maintained doesn't mean they aren't there.
Additionally, we're the gateway to the Adirondacks and, of course, we have our unique and delicious foods. I think this stuff is interesting, and is more than a lot of other cities can boast. We have a pretty cool history that has left a huge mark on the city.
I don't understand why you people are so ashamed of the area. Every area has it's ups and downs. Rochester for example has ridiculously high taxes, safety issues, and some of the highest murder rates in the state. Utica's main issue is a lack of money and population. Take some pride in your home for a change and try improving it. If you're sitting there complaining about how completely terrible Utica is and criticizing those who think otherwise, YOU are what is wrong with the area. Help improve the area and help turn things around instead of further destroying its reputation.
Bottom line: We have above-average potential due to our existing buildings in the city and location, we just lack money/business/population. If someone could figure out a way to attract some attention to the area, we could become quite an exceptional city.
Hmm...I hear a lot of used to be's in there. No one cares about used to be's. I90 is filled with used to be's man.

Level 1

Since: Sep 13

Utica, NY

#34 Sep 25, 2013
Downtown Utica Face wrote:
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Hmm...I hear a lot of used to be's in there. No one cares about used to be's. I90 is filled with used to be's man.
Obviously, what happened here in the past happened in the past. There's still all the stuff history has left here though. As I just said, there are the historic unique buildings, grand old churches, great food, and we're still the crossroads between the Adirondacks and most of the rest of the state. There's a lot of potential for the area if we actually would harness it.

Level 1

Since: Sep 13

Utica, NY

#35 Sep 25, 2013
lol, and sorry. I just registered an account. This is Jared, just so you know XD
Jerry

Tully, NY

#37 Sep 25, 2013
I forgot to mention in the previous post, Jared said "we lack money, business, population". That pretty much says we just lack absolutely everything. Besides these three things, what else is there?
Ex-Utica

Tully, NY

#38 Sep 25, 2013
Jerry wrote:
<quoted text> You say in the second paragraph "used to be" and "was". That says alot without needing any more explanation. Don't tell me what Utica was like 80 years ago. I want to know what is there for me today. This major spot for refugees is one of the larger issues. It is overwhelming to the city's resources and has created a large pool of people in need of public assistance. Gateway to the Adirondacks? Utica is not the Adirondacks. You need to drive through lots of places to get to the Adirondacks. How is this significant to Utica? You might as well say that Utica is the gateway to NYC or the gateway to Nigagara Falls. It is just inconsequential that you have to drive through here to get to someplace else. Historic buildings and great archetechture exist everywhere. This is far from a unique Utica attribute. What is the point of a historic building when it is crumbling down because there is no longer a use for it or people to inhabit it? Your post does more to illustrate the problems of Utica than tell me what is good about Utica. It serves to provide reasons to stay away. Instead of telling me what Utica used to be and how it was and what it no longer is, maybe you could do a revised post and tell me what Utica is today and what is so wonderful about it, if indeed there is anything positve left of this place.
Utica has no positives left. Only negatives.
Utica Club Face

Schenectady, NY

#39 Sep 26, 2013
danto wrote:
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Obviously, what happened here in the past happened in the past. There's still all the stuff history has left here though. As I just said, there are the historic unique buildings, grand old churches, great food, and we're still the crossroads between the Adirondacks and most of the rest of the state. There's a lot of potential for the area if we actually would harness it.
Yes. People clamor over seeing old buildings and churches. And keep telling yourself your the crossroads of the adirondacks. If that were true the region would have already benefited from that.

Level 1

Since: Sep 13

Utica, NY

#40 Nov 4, 2013
I know it's been a while, but I just checked back on this. I'm not sure why I'm responding, but I just feel I should.

Anyway, you say money, power, and business are everything? That's really sad if you really think that's all that matters. There's much more to life than that and many other advantages to a region than those. It's a beautiful place, a city that's still fairy close to nature, the weather isn't bad (other than long, snowy winters- but that's all of the northeast), central location, and so much opportunity. I could go on and repeat myself more, but I won't. You all keep dismissing all of my positives because you'd rather complain that there is NOTHING good about the area.

And yes. People do clamor over old buildings and churches. Why else would anyone ever visit Europe? It's dirty, it's expensive, it's rundown, it's crowded, the streets are narrow and bumpy, communication is hard due to various language barriers, resources are scarce over there, and 2/3 of the continent is cold and dreary at best. If you don't have a life built there already, why would you ever want to visit there? Oh yeah, the old buildings and churches. History. That's why soooo many people visit and admire it from around the world.

I know Utica's buildings aren't as impressive as Europe's most famous structures, but I'm not arguing that. Go to a city/town roughly the same size as Utica there and compare. Utica has many more impressive, historic buildings than most.

We're better off than most other cities our size. We have only two major problems: 1. We lack the money and 2. We apparently are populated by a bunch of hateful, bitter people who like to wallow in self pity and complain about how everything around them doesn't live up to their expectations.

Here's the thing though- you have no right to complain about the area when all you contribute to it are whiny negative posts on topix. That's doing nothing other than further hurting the area. Here's an idea: if you don't like your hometown, go do something about it. Volunteer, start a fundraiser, boost community morale, clean up your neighborhood, make your own house and yard look nice. You can spare an hour or two on the weekends to do something! Helping out your community is much more fun than whining about it online; I promise ;)
Buzzer

Melrose, MA

#41 Nov 5, 2013
danto wrote:
Here's the thing though- you have no right to complain about the area when all you contribute to it are whiny negative posts on topix. That's doing nothing other than further hurting the area. Here's an idea: if you don't like your hometown, go do something about it. Volunteer, start a fundraiser, boost community morale, clean up your neighborhood, make your own house and yard look nice. You can spare an hour or two on the weekends to do something! Helping out your community is much more fun than whining about it online; I promise ;)
Okay. I don't know about the others on Topix, but I volunteered a lot of time trying to "help Utica" and I've also donated tens of thousands of dollars over the years to try to "help Utica." Nothing changed.

In the end I didn't feel better. However, I did get "good feelings" when I helped the younger people in Oneida County leave the area.
Buzzer

East Granby, CT

#42 Nov 5, 2013
Harbor Project Face wrote:
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I think the key first is filling the abandoned buildings first before building.
This is Utica, you're missing a step!

You need to remove the lead paint, abate the asbestos, pay the washed-up mafia to burn down the building, demolish the buildings, and THEN build.

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