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stiffs

Whitesboro, NY

#159 Jun 29, 2014
Lib 4321. You got the balls to brag about Texas? The whole state is filled with stetson, cowboy boot wearing morons. Most don't have enough brains to come in out of the rain. You included.
And yes, I've been there. I'd rather live in Siberia than that Texas sh*thole.

Utica Lies and Riggies

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#160 Jun 29, 2014
stiffs wrote:
Lib 4321. You got the balls to brag about Texas? The whole state is filled with stetson, cowboy boot wearing morons. Most don't have enough brains to come in out of the rain. You included.
And yes, I've been there. I'd rather live in Siberia than that Texas sh*thole.
A utican trying to make fun of Texas. Wow.
Truth

Utica, NY

#161 Jun 30, 2014
stiffs wrote:
Lib 4321. You got the balls to brag about Texas? The whole state is filled with stetson, cowboy boot wearing morons. Most don't have enough brains to come in out of the rain. You included.
And yes, I've been there. I'd rather live in Siberia than that Texas sh*thole.
In any discussion name calling is a sure sign that the person doing it has no valid and intellectually honest points to make. Sure sign of a weak mind.
OOOK

Utica, NY

#162 Jun 30, 2014
They are what they are not much we can do about it.

Utica Lies and Riggies

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#163 Jun 30, 2014
Truth wrote:
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In any discussion name calling is a sure sign that the person doing it has no valid and intellectually honest points to make. Sure sign of a weak mind.
The funny thing with them saying they'd rather live in Siberia is essentially they do but at least Siberia has the national attention that uticans crave.
Benedict Cumberbatch

Dallas, TX

#164 Jul 4, 2014
stiffs wrote:
Lib 4321. You got the balls to brag about Texas? The whole state is filled with stetson, cowboy boot wearing morons. Most don't have enough brains to come in out of the rain. You included.
And yes, I've been there. I'd rather live in Siberia than that Texas sh*thole.
You've never been to Texas obviously. The stereotype you have in your head is for little towns out in the boonies. You know like most of NYS.
Benedict Cumberbatch

Dallas, TX

#166 Jul 4, 2014
Oh here's the small overpass in the city.
All non tolled.
http://dallashorseshoe.com
Jorge Ramos

Kilgore, TX

#167 Jul 29, 2014
I'm driving on I20 right now and it's no less or better than the NY toll road. The only difference is business is booming down here.
Skinflint USA

Whitesboro, NY

#168 Jul 29, 2014
Look dipshits. Don't you halfwits get it? If u ddon't want to pay tolls then don't use the thwy! Duh! What part of this equation don't u jerkoffs get?
Truth

Jersey City, NJ

#169 Jul 30, 2014
Skinflint USA wrote:
Look dipshits. Don't you halfwits get it? If u ddon't want to pay tolls then don't use the thwy! Duh! What part of this equation don't u jerkoffs get?
To start with one part I don't get is why the tolls weren't removed when the original bonds were paid off. That New York state government created the New York State Thruway bureaucracy, able to bond for money without legislative approval, and now does not want to get rid of it that's why. Over 95% of the U.S. Interstate Highway System is supported with federal gas tax money. Because New York chooses to have tolls and the NYSTA we in New York do not get a share of the federal gas tax to support US 87 & US 90 the way the vast majority of other states do. I don't get that.

I don't get why New York taxpayers don't insist that the NYSTA is dismantled and responsibility for US 87 & US 90 ceded to the NYSDOT. Does New York State need two full blown bureaucracies that serve the same purpose?

Why should I be refused the use of US 87 & US 90 because I don't like the tolls? My tolls and tax money have paid for those roadways again and again. I don't get that.

These are just a few of the things I don't get. Probably the biggest thing I don't get, since you asked, is why people like you don't educate themselves before posting such ignorant comments.
skinflint truth

Whitesboro, NY

#170 Jul 30, 2014
Nobody is refusing you anything, except maybe yourself. Again. If u don't want to pay tolls, then don't use the highway. Doy! Take 5 or 20, burn more gas, take more time & stop your pissing & moaning about a toll. When you take a car trip you probably pack pb&j sandwiches so you don't have to stop at a restaurant, don't you? I know your ilk. Stiffs.
Truth

Jersey City, NJ

#171 Jul 30, 2014
skinflint truth wrote:
Nobody is refusing you anything, except maybe yourself. Again. If u don't want to pay tolls, then don't use the highway. Doy! Take 5 or 20, burn more gas, take more time & stop your pissing & moaning about a toll. When you take a car trip you probably pack pb&j sandwiches so you don't have to stop at a restaurant, don't you? I know your ilk. Stiffs.
I want to use the roadways that my fellow taxpayers paid for and continue to pay for. My problem is that I'm paying multiple times for the use of the same road.

1) I pay New York State taxes that guarantee the bonds that the New York State Thruway Authority issues.

2) I pay tolls when I do use the thruway via my EZ Pass.

3) I pay a federal gas tax on every gallon of gas I buy that is supposed to, at least in part, go to pay for the U.S. Interstate Highway system of which the New York State Thruway is part.

I believe the money is better left in my wallet to spend or invest as I wish rather than in the coffers of the NYSTA.

It's people like you who believe New York State should be allowed to suck the blood of the working class with no resistance making New York a difficult place to live and to do business. No, a single thruway toll is not a back breaker. It's the cumulative effect that irks me. Do you realize that we in New York pay a higher price for a wide variety of goods because of the added cost of thruway tolls? Do you realize that we as New Yorkers support the compensation and benefits of the redundant bureaucracy at the New York State Thruway Authority?

The problem goes well beyond a few dollars in tolls. It's one of the systemic problems that makes New York number 50 out of 50 in business friendliness. I don't expect someone who has posted the shallow comments you have to understand that though.
skinflint usa

Whitesboro, NY

#174 Jul 30, 2014
Bobby Lies and Riggies wrote:
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This statement is spot on.
Blow me you aszwipe. And that goes for that other pinhead also.

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#176 Aug 17, 2014
stiffs wrote:
Lib 4321. You got the balls to brag about Texas? The whole state is filled with stetson, cowboy boot wearing morons. Most don't have enough brains to come in out of the rain. You included.
And yes, I've been there. I'd rather live in Siberia than that Texas sh*thole.
You are just another uneducated doofus who has probably lived in Central NY his entire life.

I'm a native New Yorker, but have lived in Texas for more than 20 years.

I've NEVER seen anyone wearing a "Stetson" other than maybe in a museum or an "old time days parade." Some people still wear cowboy style boots, but they are a tiny minority. For the most part, people in Texas dress just like people in any other part of the USA.

Texas is a modern, thriving state, with 3 of the 10 largest cities in the USA (and it will soon be 4 with the way Austin is growing at such a ridiculous rate).

Texas is gained 4 electoral votes after the last census based on it's huge population growth (by far the most of any state), NY continued to tank and lose seats. In 1860, NY had 29 seats in the US House (far more than any other state at that time). Texas had 4. Today, Texas has 38 (and rising), NY still has 29 (and falling). NY, effectively, has stagnated for 150 years.

I grew up in NY, in many ways I still love NY, but NY is KILLING ITSELF economically. It's dying, especially upstate. If it wasn't for refugees (Bosnians and others), Utica would have no influx of people.

On the other hand, San Antonio has grown by 192,000+ people (to 1.4+ million) in just the last 10 years. Yup, that's right, the growth alone in San Antonio was more than three times the entire population of Utica.

If you think "Utica is happening" and "Texas is just cowboys and oil" you are at least 70 years behind the times.

Come into the 21st century with the rest of us...and for God's sake, travel beyond Syracuse once in a while, you might learn something...

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#177 Aug 17, 2014
Truth wrote:
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To start with one part I don't get is why the tolls weren't removed when the original bonds were paid off. That New York state government created the New York State Thruway bureaucracy, able to bond for money without legislative approval, and now does not want to get rid of it that's why. Over 95% of the U.S. Interstate Highway System is supported with federal gas tax money. Because New York chooses to have tolls and the NYSTA we in New York do not get a share of the federal gas tax to support US 87 & US 90 the way the vast majority of other states do. I don't get that.
I don't get why New York taxpayers don't insist that the NYSTA is dismantled and responsibility for US 87 & US 90 ceded to the NYSDOT. Does New York State need two full blown bureaucracies that serve the same purpose?
Why should I be refused the use of US 87 & US 90 because I don't like the tolls? My tolls and tax money have paid for those roadways again and again. I don't get that.
These are just a few of the things I don't get. Probably the biggest thing I don't get, since you asked, is why people like you don't educate themselves before posting such ignorant comments.
Yup. The Thruway was paid off when I was in Elementary school (I'm over 50 now). The tolls were supposed to end then.

Now, 40 years later, the tolls still exist, and ARE GOING UP.

And, on top of that, NY State has one of the highest gas taxes in the nation.

Where is all the money going?

BTW, I was in NY State in July, and they FINALLY repaired some of those pot hole filled section of the Thruway between Buffalo and the PA border. It's about damned time. But even after those repairs, the Thruway is still in far worse shape than interstates in most states.

And remember, in most states, there are NO TOLLS, and the gas tax is far lower than in NY.

You folks are getting RIPPED OFF by your state government. I have no idea what they are doing with all that toll money and gas tax money, but they sure as Hell aren't using it to fix the interstates.
mr thruway

Liverpool, NY

#178 Aug 17, 2014
libertarian4321 wrote:
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Yup. The Thruway was paid off when I was in Elementary school (I'm over 50 now). The tolls were supposed to end then.
Now, 40 years later, the tolls still exist, and ARE GOING UP.
And, on top of that, NY State has one of the highest gas taxes in the nation.
Where is all the money going?
BTW, I was in NY State in July, and they FINALLY repaired some of those pot hole filled section of the Thruway between Buffalo and the PA border. It's about damned time. But even after those repairs, the Thruway is still in far worse shape than interstates in most states.
And remember, in most states, there are NO TOLLS, and the gas tax is far lower than in NY.
You folks are getting RIPPED OFF by your state government. I have no idea what they are doing with all that toll money and gas tax money, but they sure as Hell aren't using it to fix the interstates.
They are going to pay for my penison i can retire from the thruway in 3 months and my yearly penison will be 58565 not bad for a 9th grade education. See you in florida suckers.
See Ya

Whitesboro, NY

#179 Aug 17, 2014
mr thruway wrote:
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They are going to pay for my penison i can retire from the thruway in 3 months and my yearly penison will be 58565 not bad for a 9th grade education. See you in florida suckers.
Hey way to go! I got 3 yrs. to go unless there's an early out. See YOU in Florida! LOL.
wow

Glenmont, NY

#181 Dec 29, 2015
libertarian4321 wrote:
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Most states have interstate highways that are BETTER than the Thruway, and have no tolls.
When I visited my family in central NY a couple of months ago, I was SHOCKED at the wretched condition of the Thruway- it was the worst maintained interstate I drove on (slightly worse than the interstates in PA, KY, and OH, and FAR worse than those in Mississippi, Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, VA, and others.
Yeah, that's right, the roads in dirt poor, backward Mississippi are far better than in NY.
You pay ridiculously high income taxes, you pay ridiculously high gas taxes (supposedly for roads), you pay outrageous tolls, and the road is one of the worst in the nation. That's embarrassing.
Where is all the money going?
BTW, the interstates in all those other states are mostly FREE.
Just one of the many reasons I no longer live in upstate NY.
And nobody here misses you one bit.

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