No tolls on thruway
Truth

Utica, NY

#46 Oct 30, 2013
Burt wrote:
We will all be paying by miles traveled within a few years your own cars black box will report the mileage and autowithdraw the mileage fees. And if you go over the speed limit it will auto fine your account right then.
All kinds of privacy issues with that.
Utica Is The Best

Albany, NY

#47 Oct 30, 2013
New York is great!
NSA snoops

Whitesboro, NY

#48 Oct 31, 2013
Truth wrote:
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All kinds of privacy issues with that.
Privacy? The NSA is laughing at you right now...

Watch out for a drone strike next!

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#49 Nov 2, 2013
Earlier I said one of the "good" things about the Thruway was that the service areas were nicer than in some states.
That is true, as in many states, the rest areas are nothing more than spot to pull over, go to the bathroom, and have a snack.
However, previous commenters are right. In other states, you can quickly and easily pull into a truck stop and get everything you can get at a Thruway stop (and a whole lot more), but at a much cheaper price.
On the Thruway, you are STUCK with one overpriced vendor for food, gas, whatever.
Pull off the road anywhere else in the USA, and you have COMPETITION- Pilot, Travel America, Buckey's, and a bunch more- you will get far more, and better services, for far less cost!
So yeah, even though the state run facilities in NY are decent, they still suck in comparison to the private offerings in most states.

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#50 Nov 2, 2013
Utica Is The Best wrote:
New York is great!
New York was great, in 1940 or so.

It has been stagnant, or even in reverse, ever since.

NY isn't even competitive anymore. That's why so many of the best people, especially upstate, leave once they get an education.
Patrick Shethouse

United States

#51 Dec 18, 2013
You want me to start a business in NY and pay for my trucks to drive on the roads? LOL. Why would anyone do that? I want to stop at Loves, TA, etc. for gas because that's where I have accounts set up. Also they have truck maintenance should we blow a tire or need emergency repairs. On top of all that inconvenience we have to pay a toll? Forget about it. I can drive from Dallas/Fort Worth to the border of NYS without paying one toll.
NY Voter

Charlotte, NC

#52 Dec 19, 2013
Be careful what you wish for.

To those who'd choose to abolish the NYS Thruway Authority, I hope you realize it will now be in the hands of NY State. Do you think the roads will be plowed as well? Paved as well? If you do then you're a mindless Liberal in the first place.

Speaking of mindless Liberal's, lets not also forget, NY State got The NYS Thruway Authority to take over the NY Canal System. The Canal System was costing NY State taxpayers millions. Now they (politicians) could wipe it off the books. Free and clear from their watch.

Toll roads suck, and I'm not saying the NYS Thruway Authority hasn't had it's share of corruption, however, it's better than the alternative.
right on

Malone, NY

#53 Dec 20, 2013
detest the Thruway wrote:
One of the biggest negative effects of the Thruway is how it deprives local communities along its route from benefitting from the business of travelers / motorists.
Elsewhere in the country on "free" interstates you have very busy interchanges with easy on/easy off access and all manner of services catering to the traveler -- fuel, hotels, and a wide range of restaurants from Wendy's to Chili's, you name it, many of them invitingly advertised on billboards.
Not only do those localized economic engines provide jobs and local taxes to the communities, they make the area more attractive to live in, hence more people = improved community economy.
Not in NY. With the Thruway we have:
-- Toll booths that make it inconvenient to get off and on the Thruway
-- Prohibition on billboard advertisting, so that businesses in local communities can't even advertise the hotels, restaurants and gas stations available at an exit
-- Service islands that hold motorists captive to a limited selection of overpriced offerings
Every community along the Thruway, say Utica and Amsterdam and Catskill, you name it, suffers as a result.
The Thruway is a corrupt, cynical institution that can and should be eradicated. Shame on NYS legislators for failing to stand up for their local communities and motorists to abolish the abomination that is the Thruway.
EXCELLENT point !!!
buckley pool

Brooklyn, NY

#54 Dec 20, 2013
Tolls keep the queers and degenerates from trolling the rest stops. I've never been spooked in ny on the thruway. Try using the restrooms in some states. Its terrifying. People lurking around the parking lots and in the toilets. Keeps out the rif raf.
No Kidding

Utica, NY

#55 Dec 21, 2013
buckley pool wrote:
Tolls keep the queers and degenerates from trolling the rest stops. I've never been spooked in ny on the thruway. Try using the restrooms in some states. Its terrifying. People lurking around the parking lots and in the toilets. Keeps out the rif raf.
Had no idea this went on. Wow!
Rick

Holland Patent, NY

#56 Dec 21, 2013
No Kidding wrote:
<quoted text> Had no idea this went on. Wow!
Let's hope you never meet George Michael that way.

Since: May 11

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#57 Mar 8, 2014
NY Voter wrote:
Be careful what you wish for.
To those who'd choose to abolish the NYS Thruway Authority, I hope you realize it will now be in the hands of NY State. Do you think the roads will be plowed as well? Paved as well? If you do then you're a mindless Liberal in the first place.
Speaking of mindless Liberal's, lets not also forget, NY State got The NYS Thruway Authority to take over the NY Canal System. The Canal System was costing NY State taxpayers millions. Now they (politicians) could wipe it off the books. Free and clear from their watch.
Toll roads suck, and I'm not saying the NYS Thruway Authority hasn't had it's share of corruption, however, it's better than the alternative.
There are interstate highways all across the country- from California to Montana to Texas to Florida.

Almost NONE of them, outside of NY, is tolled. And almost all of them are better maintained than the woeful NYS Thruway, which is an embarrassment.

NY was supposed to stop tolls on the Thruway sometime in the mid-1970s. It's time they drop the tolls and turn it into just another interstate, with open access, reasonably priced facilities, good maintenance, and no tolls, just like almost every other stretch of interstate in the USA.
obammys cousin

Whitesboro, NY

#58 Mar 8, 2014
In 3 years I retire from the thruway. After that you can shove it up your asz. Just be patient for 3 more yrs. Thank you.
Truth

Herkimer, NY

#59 Mar 9, 2014
libertarian4321 wrote:
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There are interstate highways all across the country- from California to Montana to Texas to Florida.
Almost NONE of them, outside of NY, is tolled. And almost all of them are better maintained than the woeful NYS Thruway, which is an embarrassment.
NY was supposed to stop tolls on the Thruway sometime in the mid-1970s. It's time they drop the tolls and turn it into just another interstate, with open access, reasonably priced facilities, good maintenance, and no tolls, just like almost every other stretch of interstate in the USA.
Great points.

Anyone interested can look this up. 96% of the roads in the U. S. Interstate Highway System are toll free and supported via the federal taxes on gas. The New York State Thruway is the longest of the 4% of the US Interstate roads that are tolled. Most of the toll roads in the system are concentrated in the northeast. If a state collects tolls on a road in the US Interstate System they forfeit the federal tax. What this means is that we in New York pay the federal tax, get no federal assistance back from the feds and we pay tolls when we use the Thruway.

Is it a coincidence that New York is ranked number 50 out of 50 states for business friendliness?

Since: May 11

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#60 Mar 15, 2014
Truth wrote:
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Great points.
Anyone interested can look this up. 96% of the roads in the U. S. Interstate Highway System are toll free and supported via the federal taxes on gas. The New York State Thruway is the longest of the 4% of the US Interstate roads that are tolled. Most of the toll roads in the system are concentrated in the northeast. If a state collects tolls on a road in the US Interstate System they forfeit the federal tax. What this means is that we in New York pay the federal tax, get no federal assistance back from the feds and we pay tolls when we use the Thruway.
Is it a coincidence that New York is ranked number 50 out of 50 states for business friendliness?
Yup, NY State has a lot of problems. Bad weather, high taxes, burdensome government, great benefits for the "dependent" classes. It's almost as if they are trying to drive business and successful people away.

I love NY, but it's government is such a mess that it just wasn't feasible to stay there, so I live in Texas now- it's business friendly, has low taxes, and actually encourages business/entrepreneurship.

Though I could do without the 100 summer weather (I guess that's a wash with the NY winters).

Since: May 11

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#62 Mar 16, 2014
Irish Riggies wrote:
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Spot on.
I really wish NY State wasn't so screwed up. Unfortunately, it's driven away the good paying jobs with it's high rate of taxation.

As it stands, NY is fine for the elderly (like my parents) and those on public assistance (who collect great benefits for doing nothing), but it sucks for those of us who are achievers. Better to move to Texas (or almost any other state outside the northeast) than live in NY.
Boner

New Hartford, NY

#63 Mar 16, 2014
I love the thruway its a great convenience. Its in fantastic shape and well cared for, to say anything else shows your lack of any real knowledge on the topic. It is also a private corporation. No state taxes are applied to its care. If you use it you are paying for that. If you don't like to pay for it don't use it. Its pretty fucNing simple if you ask me.

Take your ass from Utica to Syracuse on Rt 5 its free. It will take you well over an hour maybe two depending on the day and time. Or head down to Rt 20. Its free and you will see what a road in really poor condition is.

Me I will gladly pay under ten bucks to put the truck on cruise at 75-80 in Massachusetts and not stop until I need gas or am in buffalo. Expensive? If thats expensive maybe you shouldnt have a car. Get your welfare check, get on a bus and get trolled around Utica.
Truth

Herkimer, NY

#64 Mar 16, 2014
Boner wrote:
I love the thruway its a great convenience. Its in fantastic shape and well cared for, to say anything else shows your lack of any real knowledge on the topic. It is also a private corporation. No state taxes are applied to its care. If you use it you are paying for that. If you don't like to pay for it don't use it. Its pretty fucNing simple if you ask me.
Take your ass from Utica to Syracuse on Rt 5 its free. It will take you well over an hour maybe two depending on the day and time. Or head down to Rt 20. Its free and you will see what a road in really poor condition is.
Me I will gladly pay under ten bucks to put the truck on cruise at 75-80 in Massachusetts and not stop until I need gas or am in buffalo. Expensive? If thats expensive maybe you shouldnt have a car. Get your welfare check, get on a bus and get trolled around Utica.
You better go back and check your facts.

The New York State Thruway is not a private corporation. It is one of hundreds of public authorities in New York State. Google "public authorities New York State". Just the thruway web address alone should demonstate that it is part of New York State government:|
www.thruway.ny.gov (not .com,.net or any other private commercial address)
The board of directors is nominated by the governor and confirmed by the NYS Senate. Does that sound like a private corporation?

Public authorites were created in New York State in order to bypass the legislative process for funding. Public authorities have the power to bond(borrow) without asking the taxpayers even though it is the taxpayers who are on the hook if the authority was to default.

While it is technically correcvt to say the NYS Thruway is self supporting via the tolls, it still doesn't tell the whole story. In New York State if we buy gas, we pay a federal gas tax. Part of the proceeds from that federal tax goes to support the United States Interstate Highway System of which most of the Thruway is part. The way funding works though is that if a state chooses to toll their interstate they forfeit the federal funds. What that means is that all New Yorkers who buy gas pay the tax and when they use the thruway they also pay the tolls. We pay twice.

I think it's actually you who has demoinstrated a lack of knowledge with your post. Are you an employee of the New Yor State Thruway that gets your information from a newsletter?

Since: May 11

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#65 Mar 16, 2014
Boner wrote:
I love the thruway its a great convenience. Its in fantastic shape and well cared for, to say anything else shows your lack of any real knowledge on the topic. It is also a private corporation. No state taxes are applied to its care. If you use it you are paying for that. If you don't like to pay for it don't use it. Its pretty fucNing simple if you ask me.
Take your ass from Utica to Syracuse on Rt 5 its free. It will take you well over an hour maybe two depending on the day and time. Or head down to Rt 20. Its free and you will see what a road in really poor condition is.
Me I will gladly pay under ten bucks to put the truck on cruise at 75-80 in Massachusetts and not stop until I need gas or am in buffalo. Expensive? If thats expensive maybe you shouldnt have a car. Get your welfare check, get on a bus and get trolled around Utica.
You are clearly an uneducated provincial yokel who has never been outside the northeast part of the USA.

There are interstates all over the USA. I have traveled most of them. ALMOST NONE OF THEM ARE TOLLED, and almost all of them are in better shape than the NY Thruway.

When I first started this thread, I had traveled from South Texas to Utica, then through MA and VT to visit friends and family. Almost all by interstate. NONE of the highways was tolled, EXCEPT for the dismal NYS Thruway.

And the NYS Thruway was the WORST stretch of road I encountered (Pennsylvania's highways are pretty bad, too, but not as bad as NY).

Asking someone to take some back country road like Route 20 or Route 5 (both are like something you'd find in the third world) to avoid the Thruway tolls is just stupid. That might be fine if you are driving your tractor from Ilion to Utica to sell Hay or Cow Patties, but it doesn't cut it for modern people looking to move long distances in a short amount of time. If poor states like Mississippi can keep their roads in decent shape, why is the NY Thruway such as mess, full of potholes?

Son, your post shows that you have never been anywhere. If you had, you'd realize the NYS Thruway is an embarrassment.

LIke I said, I was born and raised in central NY. I'd LOVE to be able to speak proudly about it, but I can't. It's a mess, and the Thruway is a part of that mess.

Upstate NY, frankly, looks like it just stopped in 1950 or so, It peaked, and went all downhill from there, and shows no interest in reversing the trend. Kind of an Al Bundy story...

BTW, genius, I traveled from South Texas to the NY border at "75-80" AND NEVER PAID A CENT, on better roads than the Thruway. Then I hit the pot hole freeway (er, Thruway). What a mess, no wonder everyone with brains or ambition leaves upstate NY.

If you are willing to accept a crappy road at a high toll, you are just a beaten down shell of a man- you have given up and just meekly accept crap because that is what your overlords tell you to accept.

Here's an idea. Reach down, feel around your crotch and see if you still have any balls. If you do, stop apologizing for shitty service at high cost. Demand better and don't just meekly accept bad service at a high price. You are (supposed to be) a man, not a sheep...

Since: May 11

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#66 Mar 16, 2014
Truth wrote:
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I think it's actually you who has demoinstrated a lack of knowledge with your post. Are you an employee of the New Yor State Thruway that gets your information from a newsletter?
My feelings exactly. This doofus must be a government drone dependent on a government paycheck.

No one who has actually travelled extensively outside of NY State and has a functioning brain thinks the NYS Thruway is a good thing. It's just another RIP OFF in NY State- and there are many of them, which explains why NY State, especially upstate, continues to lose people, especially the "best and brightest," to other states.

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