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Calvin Cordozar Broadus

Dallas, TX

#1 Aug 16, 2013
The tolls were to end in 1996. Interested article.
http://www.nytimes.com/1982/07/20/nyregion/th...

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Since: Jul 10

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#2 Aug 16, 2013
Yeah. I remember reading that, back then.

And now I have EZ Passes stuck on all my vehicles.

This state really stinks.
Stupid Drivers

Ithaca, NY

#4 Aug 17, 2013
If you don't like it, don't use the Thruway!

It's worth paying a few bucks not to have to deal with stoplights, or getting stuck behind Jeb in his pickup truck going 30mph everywhere.

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#5 Aug 17, 2013
Stupid Drivers wrote:
If you don't like it, don't use the Thruway!
It's worth paying a few bucks not to have to deal with stoplights, or getting stuck behind Jeb in his pickup truck going 30mph everywhere.
Most states have interstate highways that are BETTER than the Thruway, and have no tolls.

When I visited my family in central NY a couple of months ago, I was SHOCKED at the wretched condition of the Thruway- it was the worst maintained interstate I drove on (slightly worse than the interstates in PA, KY, and OH, and FAR worse than those in Mississippi, Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, VA, and others.

Yeah, that's right, the roads in dirt poor, backward Mississippi are far better than in NY.

You pay ridiculously high income taxes, you pay ridiculously high gas taxes (supposedly for roads), you pay outrageous tolls, and the road is one of the worst in the nation. That's embarrassing.

Where is all the money going?

BTW, the interstates in all those other states are mostly FREE.

Just one of the many reasons I no longer live in upstate NY.
Terrible

Ithaca, NY

#7 Aug 18, 2013
libertarian4321 wrote:
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Most states have interstate highways that are BETTER than the Thruway, and have no tolls.
When I visited my family in central NY a couple of months ago, I was SHOCKED at the wretched condition of the Thruway- it was the worst maintained interstate I drove on (slightly worse than the interstates in PA, KY, and OH, and FAR worse than those in Mississippi, Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, VA, and others.
Yeah, that's right, the roads in dirt poor, backward Mississippi are far better than in NY.
You pay ridiculously high income taxes, you pay ridiculously high gas taxes (supposedly for roads), you pay outrageous tolls, and the road is one of the worst in the nation. That's embarrassing.
Where is all the money going?
BTW, the interstates in all those other states are mostly FREE.
Just one of the many reasons I no longer live in upstate NY.
Considering the fact that Mississippi is the worst state in the country by nearly every objective metric, it's going to take a lot more than nicer concrete to convince me they have their priorities straight.
Mike

Little Falls, NY

#8 Aug 18, 2013
libertarian4321 wrote:
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Most states have interstate highways that are BETTER than the Thruway, and have no tolls.
When I visited my family in central NY a couple of months ago, I was SHOCKED at the wretched condition of the Thruway- it was the worst maintained interstate I drove on (slightly worse than the interstates in PA, KY, and OH, and FAR worse than those in Mississippi, Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, VA, and others.
Yeah, that's right, the roads in dirt poor, backward Mississippi are far better than in NY.
You pay ridiculously high income taxes, you pay ridiculously high gas taxes (supposedly for roads), you pay outrageous tolls, and the road is one of the worst in the nation. That's embarrassing.
Where is all the money going?
BTW, the interstates in all those other states are mostly FREE.
Just one of the many reasons I no longer live in upstate NY.
we have free interstates also, and the other states you speak of also have toll roads. We do not have as many interstates because we donot have the population to support them. We can to across the state in a few hours for very little money. Any the thruway is fine. No potholes, lights, slow traffic....you just like to complain.
DWI

Raleigh, NC

#9 Aug 18, 2013
So what I guess your saying is that only New Yorkers use the the Thruway? I am sure all the money they collect from all the cars and trucks that come through from other sates and Canada is what helps to maintain the roads. To say the thruway is in bad condition is BS . I just traveled from nyc to Buff and most of the road is in great condition. Of course it needs work in some locations , it always will with all the traffic every day, If they didn't charge tolls , where would the money come from ? taxes , and newyorkers would pay for it all.

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#10 Aug 18, 2013
Mike wrote:
<quoted text>we have free interstates also, and the other states you speak of also have toll roads. We do not have as many interstates because we donot have the population to support them. We can to across the state in a few hours for very little money. Any the thruway is fine. No potholes, lights, slow traffic....you just like to complain.
I guess you haven't been doing much driving lately.

“...got on your timid grin”

Since: Aug 13

Singapore

#11 Aug 18, 2013
Terrible wrote:
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Considering the fact that Mississippi is the worst state in the country by nearly every objective metric, it's going to take a lot more than nicer concrete to convince me they have their priorities straight.
Not to mention it doesn't freeze down there.
Truth

Utica, NY

#13 Aug 19, 2013
Stupid Drivers wrote:
If you don't like it, don't use the Thruway!
It's worth paying a few bucks not to have to deal with stoplights, or getting stuck behind Jeb in his pickup truck going 30mph everywhere.
Spoken like a true central New Yorker who's never been outside the area very much.

It's not an either/or thing. 96% of the United States Interstate Highway System is toll free. The New York State Thruway is the longest of the 4% that are tolled. The rest are supported by federal tax dollars.

The New York State Thruway should be toll free by now as was promised when the original bonding took place. Maintenance and jurisdiction should be ceded to the NYSDOT, funded with federal tax dollars and the NYSTA abolished.

What do you suppose the financial effect is on business having the main transportation artery tolled? Does it make New York more, or less business friendly would you say?
315time

Rochester, NY

#15 Aug 22, 2013
Thomas Dewey Thruway came before the interstate system ever existed. I-90 and I-87 happen to be the offical overlaps on sections of it. However, the tolls go to the state workers to be able to pay for workers who pave, build, etc along the roads. You only think it's "worse" than other states because those states' interstates do not have a state thruway (or turnpike) overlapping them. Therefore, the state is taking care of their road when you happen to be driving there. the federal workers cover more than one state and often only pave certain sections at a time and then they're done. With the thruway the do a whole section (because it's tolled) but instead of a detour or anything they have temporary lanes and that's there way of doing what they need to get done to keep traffic moving along. Any other questions/complaints about the Thomas Dewey thruway visit the site thruway.ny.gov
matt h

United States

#16 Aug 23, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Spoken like a true central New Yorker who's never been outside the area very much.
It's not an either/or thing. 96% of the United States Interstate Highway System is toll free. The New York State Thruway is the longest of the 4% that are tolled. The rest are supported by federal tax dollars.
The New York State Thruway should be toll free by now as was promised when the original bonding took place. Maintenance and jurisdiction should be ceded to the NYSDOT, funded with federal tax dollars and the NYSTA abolished.
What do you suppose the financial effect is on business having the main transportation artery tolled? Does it make New York more, or less business friendly would you say?
you must be a jerk off if the thruway goes free your state tax will go up its a fact and per mile the thruway is the cheapest toll road in america
SOI

Clinton, NY

#17 Aug 23, 2013
matt h wrote:
<quoted text> you must be a jerk off if the thruway goes free your state tax will go up its a fact and per mile the thruway is the cheapest toll road in america
Go somewhere and get a clue because you're out of your F^%#ing mind. Cheap??! It costs $2 just to go from Utica to Syracuse. Once you get out of this state the tolls are either selectively applied near or around major city connectors or the roads are free, and the free roads are kept up just as well as our money draining Thruway.
Morty the Jew

Utica, NY

#18 Aug 26, 2013
I have a boat & I use the canal. Thruway tolls pay for the canal. Keep using the thruway every chance you get. Oh, by the way. Eat me.
majordog

Little Falls, NY

#19 Aug 26, 2013
In drive the Thruway often and consider it in great shape! I think it is better to charge the people that use the road rather than families on fixed income that might never be on the Thruway. Nothing is free so let the people that use it pay for it.
But

New York, NY

#20 Aug 26, 2013
But the thruway (I90) is free through Albany. Why should Albany get a free ride?

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#21 Oct 20, 2013
Mike wrote:
<quoted text>we have free interstates also, and the other states you speak of also have toll roads. We do not have as many interstates because we donot have the population to support them. We can to across the state in a few hours for very little money. Any the thruway is fine. No potholes, lights, slow traffic....you just like to complain.
Yes, there are some free interstates in NY, but the Thruway is the most heavily traveled (by far) and it's EXPENSIVE AS HELL.

Yes, there are other toll roads in other states, but rarely are the most used roads "toll roads."

In Texas, for example, the major interstates (I-10, I-35, I-37, I-20) are free. The only places you have tolls are in a couple of short segments of really high traffic portions of huge cities (e.g. Dallas and Houston)- and there are great "free" alternatives to all of them.

Same in the other states between San Antonio and upstate NY. You'll run across a short segment of toll road here and there, but never anything anything the length of the toll portion of the Thruway.

Again, tolls on the Thruway wouldn't be so bad, if the road was in good shape. Any of you who thinks the Thruway is "in good shape" are delusional and probably never leave central NY.

Worst interstate of any between TX and NY. Far worse than most (the roads in Ohio and PA aren't great, either- but still in better shape than the Thruway).
Bianca de Passe

Lowville, NY

#22 Oct 20, 2013
I have driven from Seattle to Boston on Interstate 90 and the worst maintained portion of the road is the New York State Thruway. It is also the most expensive.

The tolls on the Thruway have significantly contributed to the decline of industry in Upstate New York.
Truth

Utica, NY

#23 Oct 21, 2013
matt h wrote:
<quoted text> you must be a jerk off if the thruway goes free your state tax will go up its a fact and per mile the thruway is the cheapest toll road in america
The US Interstate system is supported throughout the country by the federal tax on gas. Look it up. Because New York chooses to toll the Thruway we don't get the federal dollars. It's an either/or deal.
Tolls=no federal gas tax dollars
No Tolls=federal gas tax dollars

What that means is New Yorkers are paying both the federal gas tax and the tolls. We are paying twice. The New York State Thruway Authority is just one of the over 600 public authorities in New York State that are able to borrow money that the taxpayers are on the hook for without going through the legislative process.

If you were starting or relocating a business would you consider the state that has the longest toll road in the US Interstate system?
State Employee

Carthage, NY

#24 Oct 21, 2013
Shut up and pay the toll!I want to retire soon and how else can this bankrupt state pay for it!!

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