St. Lukes ICU
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hank hill

White Oak, TX

#21 Apr 4, 2013
Pleasure Kevin wrote:
So what happens if an ambulance crew brings someone to St. Luke's that needs an ICU?
Well, pretty much like any other hospital, they're evaluated in the ER and stabilized and then taken to ICU when/if there is a bed available.
Pleasure Kevin

Stafford Springs, CT

#22 Apr 4, 2013
hank hill wrote:
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Well, pretty much like any other hospital, they're evaluated in the ER and stabilized and then taken to ICU when/if there is a bed available.
Wow. I am still getting used to living here. Kind of scary that anyone who is really sick has to be taken elsewhere to get care n
hank hill

White Oak, TX

#23 Apr 4, 2013
Pleasure Kevin wrote:
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Wow. I am still getting used to living here. Kind of scary that anyone who is really sick has to be taken elsewhere to get care n
most ppl on here are full of crap, and when someone dies and they cant cope with it they'll blame the last place that person was. Theres a thread bitching about St E's too somewhere on here, they think these ppl that work at the hospitals are supposed to perform miracles instead of treating illnesses that, sadly, sometimes cannot be treated. If a person goes into the hospital with pneumonia and their whole immume system is shot because they were so sick for so long before they went for care, thats not the hospitals fault. Sometimes they can save you, sometimes they can't. They are caring and friendly to their patients and provide proper treatment, if the patient is too sick for treatment to work sometimes they die. Thats not the hospitals fault. They provided proper care until your body gave out. If any of the ppl complaining really thought it was the hospitals fault, don't you think there would be alot more lawsuits against them? Theres no lawsuit because they know deep down nature took its course and are in the blaming others phase of coping.

St Lukes and St E are great, my mother was in both. She had triple bypass and shouldn't have lived through it at St E's, I was there every day while she was in a chemical induced coma so her body could recover and never once thought she wouldn't live,(I was a nurse and saw the care the drs and nurses were giving her and never had any doubts that she'd pull through) 6 wks later when her body recovered enough and they woke her up the drs all told her they didn't think they would ever be waking her up. They were all fantastic with her and took wonderful care of her. She ended up in St Lukes awhile later after being transferred to st lukes home (SERIOUS SHITHOLE!)for rehab, and was treated wonderfully there as well. I have no complaints with the local hospitals.
Nurse

Brattleboro, VT

#24 Apr 4, 2013
They still have a critical care unit. Previously they had a ICU and a CCU. Both functioned basically the same...just were located on different floors. They realigned services and made one of the units a CCU and one a step-down unit, or "intermediate care unit". The services they offer have not changed. This change should actually provide better care for the patients.
Concerned

Oneida, NY

#25 Apr 4, 2013
Will not provide better care if all of the CCU beds are full. Then what?
hank hill

White Oak, TX

#26 Apr 4, 2013
Concerned wrote:
Will not provide better care if all of the CCU beds are full. Then what?
well, I think since they changed 1 ccu unit to intermediate care and apparently they haven't fired all the nurses with experience (theres no thread on here complaining about that so I'm just guessing they're still employed) they still have their previous experience, so they'll be able to handle a patient from the regular icu until a bed in ccu opens up. But thats just a guess.
Death Sentence

Little Falls, NY

#27 Apr 5, 2013
The quality of care and mortality rate at any of these local hospitals is terrible at best and if you are seriously injured or sick go to Syracuse, thats my take and nobody can make me believe any different.
Concerned

Oneida, NY

#28 Apr 5, 2013
What if there is an influx of ICU patients? Im sure the new IMCU nurses aren't being trained for ICU level care. Does that mean that my loved one needs to ask now, "What is the census in CCU?". If they are full then you are fu%ked. Shame on you St. Lukes. Putting the dollar over patient care. Im sure that with the less number of beds and the lower level of care you are saving money. Well when all the CCU beds are full and a patient is critically ill in the ED, then what?????
Jeez

Albany, NY

#29 Apr 5, 2013
Concerned wrote:
What if there is an influx of ICU patients? Im sure the new IMCU nurses aren't being trained for ICU level care. Does that mean that my loved one needs to ask now, "What is the census in CCU?". If they are full then you are fu%ked. Shame on you St. Lukes. Putting the dollar over patient care. Im sure that with the less number of beds and the lower level of care you are saving money. Well when all the CCU beds are full and a patient is critically ill in the ED, then what?????
You act if that scenario doesn't happen all the time in every hospital in the country. What do you do when all of your ICU beds are full and you get another critically ill patient through the ER, or somebody codes in the hospital? You bump out the least sick person in the ICU that's what. Every critical care area has a physician or group if physicians (usually a cardiologist or intensivist) whose job it is to evaluate ICU patients and make that call when and if needed. That's just the way it works.
Eddie

Rochester, NY

#30 Apr 5, 2013
I heard they were losing their Joint Commission accreditation due to flagrant incompetence.
Nurse

Florence, MA

#31 Apr 5, 2013
Ridiculous rumors. Faxton St Lukes is accredited by the DNV, not joint commission. They just were there and did not loose accreditation.
bill

East Hartford, CT

#32 Apr 5, 2013
St Lukes is terrible . Worse hospital I have ever been in. People should be calling the hotline DOH and let them manage it. Topix can't fix it
Concerned

Oneida, NY

#34 Apr 5, 2013
What scares me is that they lost almost half if their intensive care beds. Wow. God for bid we need those beds for the community. But money talks.

“Excuse me while I kiss the sky”

Level 2

Since: Feb 13

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#35 Apr 5, 2013
This discussion is something else. Funny Stuff.

Anyways.. when it comes to a possible influx of ICU patients…With most businesses, there is some sort of management structure that looks out for the technicalities & ensures that everything(Supplies, staffing, external resources, etc) is running properly. All hospitals (including FSLHC & St. Ez’s) have “House” Nursing Supervisors who manage the nurse- patient ratios, bed availability within the units, among other responsibilities.

Also the area hospitals, EMTs, Fire dpt, & ambulance services all work together.
For instance if one hospital is under full capacity in their ED, the ambulance will bring them to other local hospital. Who would have thought!

By the way St. Ez’s is the trauma center in the Greater Utica area (EMTs, emergency services all know this). That is why St. Ez’s receives a majority of the traumas in this area & probably why their critical care units/ services aren’t changing (as of yet).

If you think that it’s only the Utica hospitals that are feeling the pain on not having any money, you are wrong. Everyone is making cuts. Upstate which if you didn’t realize is a state hospital, is suffering too. Upstate & Crouse were just on a hiring freeze that lasted almost a year, & they both canned hundreds of employees within the past year.

I would think that people would be more worried about the nurse to patient ratios. But no people are worried about unit adjustments in the levels of care!
Quarantined

Waterville, NY

#36 Apr 6, 2013
Sam wrote:
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Please tell me why the community should be told this, When St. Lukes had a break out of VRE,vancomycin-resistant enterococci no one was told.
Please explain when &where. Beloved family member recently passed away after contracting infection in the hospital.
just saying

Utica, NY

#37 Apr 6, 2013
Just wait until obama's death squad, i mean desth board, get to determine your health care.
Great care

United States

#38 Apr 7, 2013
Had nothing but great care there

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