Old Utica Mob Families
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Utica, NY

#126 Apr 18, 2013
Joey Bagadonuts.
People suck

Herkimer, NY

#127 Apr 18, 2013
Hey who is this Ralph Lucia on ufd?
as it used to be

Bridgeport, NY

#128 Apr 19, 2013
Utica used to be mobbed up, not the prison, oops correctional institution camp follower ghetto and refugee center that it is now.
If you can deal w/ the Utica OD (a pun that few get) requesting subscription, this is not a too bad start of a Utica mob series by Rocco LaPuka.
http://www.uticaod.com/news/x407217072/DAY-1-...
It doesn't begin to address the lesser players.
A bit ago my senile Auntie had a lucid moment and talked about the 50's and cousins from both sides of her family running a hooker ring and entering the military in a hurry when bodies were found on Albany hill.(Long before Dawn Grillo)
And speaking of Grillo, search Topix for Dawn or Angelo Grill threads. Angelo came from the Thomas family that had numerous arrests in the 50's and 60's - his grandfather, uncle and mother for gambling.
hmm

Carthage, NY

#129 Apr 20, 2013
do people really think the mob is gone in utica
My3cents

Syracuse, NY

#130 Apr 20, 2013
my two scents wrote:
Why drop names,, like I said they are in the none of your f*cking business. And by the way, who wants to know?
Shut up you nitwit!!!! Stick you 2 cent up your as---s, your coming out like you have a clue you creep. The bottom line is who care who they were there all gone and that's where they need to be gone. You on the other hand are coming out like you new people and want to act like a big wheel to back to bed you bum
bonaduchie

Waterville, NY

#131 Jan 25, 2014
west side Irish eat side waps
bonaduchie

Waterville, NY

#133 Jan 25, 2014
my two scents wrote:
They were all in none of your f*cking business
dumb niy eap
NH HITMAN

Utica, NY

#134 Jan 25, 2014
I know a guy who talk some crap that hes a hitman for the mob....no its not dickie...lol....anyone know who im talking about, lives in NH ?
bonaduchie

Waterville, NY

#135 Jan 26, 2014
vito is his name...rizzuti
thief

Oneida, NY

#136 Jan 26, 2014
roefaros and palmieries and lapollas, joe palumbo of madison ave in utica, a thief who made money on his dead daughter! blood money, he will rot in hell soon with her.
Ranting Sgt Hauck

Port Chester, NY

#137 Jan 26, 2014
Utica is "mobbed up" LOL! Utican's were always wannbes who couldn't find their asses. "Mobbed up" lol they can't even TALK!

LOL!
mouse failure above

New York, NY

#138 Jan 26, 2014
They had jobs unlike the failure mouse trash or the KNEEGROWS.

The destroyers of life.

When the KNEEGROWS are removed from the area, it will be a nice place for family's.

You won't be robed to death in taxes so these animals can live for free.

During a Chicago school visit earlier this month to the site where a black honor student was beaten to death by a mob of black students, Attorney General Eric Holder stated that growing youth violence in America is not just "a black problem," but a problem for all races. The trouble with this statement is that it is statistically untrue.

Youth violence may not be solely a black problem, but it is primarily a black problem.

Consider, by race, the contributing factors of prison incarceration and school suspension. Blacks are imprisoned and suspended three times more frequently than the rest of the US population, and as much as six times more frequently than their white, Asian, and Latino counterparts.

The question is not whether young blacks, particularly males, get involved in violent incidents more frequently than other races. The question is why.

White and black liberals blame this disparity on a racist society that misinterprets and discriminates against black culture.

White and black conservatives explain these statistics as the result of less respect for the law, caused solely by poor parenting. They cite as proof that high-achieving blacks have been well-parented.

This is not a new problem. Consider a memo written in 1965 to President Lyndon Johnson from Assistant Labor Secretary Daniel Moynihan in which the secretary expressed his great concern over the high rate of out-of-wedlock births among blacks (25 percent at that time). Unaddressed, Mr. Moynihan predicted, this large number of fatherless children would result in increasing school failure, criminal delinquency, and joblessness. Sadly, because liberals across the board condemned this call for action as racist propaganda, President Johnson didn't want to risk heated public debate and so did nothing.

The recent Chicago incident, and countless others that occur daily, are the result of not heeding Moynihan's warning 44 years ago. The previous out-of-wedlock birthrate has almost tripled, and 7 out of 10 black children now grow up not only without a father, but also in disproportionate poverty. That means millions of young kids lack adequate parental guidance to make the transition to become successful adults.

So of course unparented black kids act up and get in trouble more. Any racial group would do the same. The starting point for reducing our nation's youth violence must begin at home. We need our elected public officials to acknowledge this.
So sorry

Westwood, MA

#139 Jan 26, 2014
It's not the government's place to tell someone how to live their lives. What you say is accurate. Until they look within themselves to be better parents and are willing to have an equitable stake in their own lives, the problems with delinquency , parenting, and criminal behavior will increase exponentially, not just with blacks but every race. It all begins at home. Babies having more babies makes America weak.
nostolgic

Gouverneur, NY

#140 Jan 26, 2014
Mr. Man of knowledge; how do you know all this? Did you look at old newpapers? All you young folks seem to have a fixation on the old days and don't know what the hell you're talking about. People were not afraid to walk the streets any time of the night, no drive by shootings, clean neighberhoods, polite children who respected their elders, people worked for their money and were embarassed if they were on welfare for a short period of time. We should have the old goombas' here straighten all you scumbags out who think they know everthing about us italians. Why are ayou so biased? What nationality do you think is superior to another? You sound like a meat and potatoes guy. Knock it off.
TheTruth

Utica, NY

#141 Jan 26, 2014
Man of Knowledge wrote:
Rufus Elefante was much more a "God Father" than a thug. He and Utica Mayor (Warren?) brought jobs and prosperity to the Utica area during the 40's. Ruffie was a proud Italian-American, and as an example, helped Italians who were persecuted by Irish-Americans even unto the Utica Fire Dept. Regardless of what descent You happened to be, if You knocked on Ruffie's door, and were a Gentleman of Honor, He would help You if He could.
He was a quality Person.
Bullfuckinshit the goombas were never persecuted by Irish! Not in utica not anywhere. Matter of fact, the irish were the most abused in america- more than the jigs, the wops, the hebs, the polocks, etc.
OCD cret fail

New York, NY

#142 Jan 26, 2014
mouse failure above wrote:
They had jobs unlike the failure mouse trash or the KNEEGROWS.
The destroyers of life.
When the KNEEGROWS are removed from the area, it will be a nice place for family's.
You won't be robed to death in taxes so these animals can live for free.
During a Chicago school visit earlier this month to the site where a black honor student was beaten to death by a mob of black students, Attorney General Eric Holder stated that growing youth violence in America is not just "a black problem," but a problem for all races. The trouble with this statement is that it is statistically untrue.
Youth violence may not be solely a black problem, but it is primarily a black problem.
Consider, by race, the contributing factors of prison incarceration and school suspension. Blacks are imprisoned and suspended three times more frequently than the rest of the US population, and as much as six times more frequently than their white, Asian, and Latino counterparts.
The question is not whether young blacks, particularly males, get involved in violent incidents more frequently than other races. The question is why.
White and black liberals blame this disparity on a racist society that misinterprets and discriminates against black culture.
White and black conservatives explain these statistics as the result of less respect for the law, caused solely by poor parenting. They cite as proof that high-achieving blacks have been well-parented.
This is not a new problem. Consider a memo written in 1965 to President Lyndon Johnson from Assistant Labor Secretary Daniel Moynihan in which the secretary expressed his great concern over the high rate of out-of-wedlock births among blacks (25 percent at that time). Unaddressed, Mr. Moynihan predicted, this large number of fatherless children would result in increasing school failure, criminal delinquency, and joblessness. Sadly, because liberals across the board condemned this call for action as racist propaganda, President Johnson didn't want to risk heated public debate and so did nothing.
The recent Chicago incident, and countless others that occur daily, are the result of not heeding Moynihan's warning 44 years ago. The previous out-of-wedlock birthrate has almost tripled, and 7 out of 10 black children now grow up not only without a father, but also in disproportionate poverty. That means millions of young kids lack adequate parental guidance to make the transition to become successful adults.
So of course unparented black kids act up and get in trouble more. Any racial group would do the same. The starting point for reducing our nation's youth violence must begin at home. We need our elected public officials to acknowledge this.
Is dat dat fininin baby tosss ?
TheTruth

Utica, NY

#143 Jan 26, 2014
genomancurache wrote:
<quoted text>You are quite right about that...I remember my dad meeting with rufie waaaaay back in '58..I was in high school..when he kissed his ring, I was taken aback....my father told me it was for 'respect' years later I understood, when after my dad passed and I met him at Uncle Henry's pancake house....I kissed his ring till the day he passed...great man,,wishe he was still around...
I'm sure you kissed more than his old saggy wrinkly ring finger you mutt
Larry Dack

Utica, NY

#144 Jan 26, 2014
NH HITMAN wrote:
I know a guy who talk some crap that hes a hitman for the mob....no its not dickie...lol....anyone know who im talking about, lives in NH ?
It'sLarry of whom you speak. He's the only one left who does and says this.
no more yootica

Carthage, NY

#145 Jan 26, 2014
Rufus Elefante was much more a "God Father" than a thug. He and Utica Mayor (Warren?) brought jobs and prosperity to the Utica area during the 40's. Ruffie was a proud Italian-American, and as an example, helped Italians who were persecuted by Irish-Americans even unto the Utica Fire Dept. Regardless of what descent You happened to be, if You knocked on Ruffie's door, and were a Gentleman of Honor, He would help You if He could.
He was a quality Person.
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Good for you!! If, you were of Italian decent, you had a job in Utica! It did not matter where. Ruffie took care of all the people from the boot.
As far as anything else, the kids now have no clue as to old Utica. When, he was around, EVERYONE had work. As soon as he died, the work left Utica, and has never come back. All you had to do was know WHO to go to, then a short trip to Uncle Henry's Pancake house where he held office, and you went to work!
I must say: the ignorance of most people in Utica and those who post here, reflects the REASONS that Utica is a sh*t hole it is now. Anyone-with any education is smart enough to leave and get a real life. I left @ 17 to enlist in 1968, and I got the education of a lifetime. Yes, Utica sucks. But! It's those who continue to stay here and tolerate paying for the stupid moves the cops traditionally make, untrained-hire most anyone(Lindsey) and put up with it!
Marco Viti

Utica, NY

#146 Jan 26, 2014
as it used to be wrote:
Utica used to be mobbed up, not the prison, oops correctional institution camp follower ghetto and refugee center that it is now.
If you can deal w/ the Utica OD (a pun that few get) requesting subscription, this is not a too bad start of a Utica mob series by Rocco LaPuka.
http://www.uticaod.com/news/x407217072/DAY-1-...
It doesn't begin to address the lesser players.
A bit ago my senile Auntie had a lucid moment and talked about the 50's and cousins from both sides of her family running a hooker ring and entering the military in a hurry when bodies were found on Albany hill.(Long before Dawn Grillo)
And speaking of Grillo, search Topix for Dawn or Angelo Grill threads. Angelo came from the Thomas family that had numerous arrests in the 50's and 60's - his grandfather, uncle and mother for gambling.
My great grandfather was ONE OF THOSE BODIES! Why the fck would you ever bring this up. There are still suffering families in this area who's love ones went missing around here and never found, bujt is obvious it was mob work. A guy didn't even have to be working in or associated with the "business", but simply refuse to be bullied in even the least way. This sort of perceived lack of respect was not tolerated and could result in your being offed. I will forever hate the fckin thugs mobsters and their wannabe lackeys in Utica today.

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