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poatoface

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David wrote:
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Hahaha! Jokes on you. Raymond doesn't even agree with these posts. Learn to read!! Oh and find a job because apparently you are the only one posting here. Over & over again.
I think that was the idea, fool. I'd say you are keeping the other person pretty good company.
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David wrote:
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Hahaha! Jokes on you. Raymond doesn't even agree with these posts. Learn to read!! Oh and find a job because apparently you are the only one posting here. Over & over again.
You sound like you are posting from the bughouse, david. Get a grip. Pray. LOLZ
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Any chance some of the alters here can take themselves out to coffee with David and his alters for a rousing discussion about notre dame? I'll pick up the tab if I can sit in on it.
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jackie wrote:
Founder Thomas Jefferson wanted a wall between church and state at every possible level. If you actually read what he wanted, you would understand that he would have been appalled at tax money supporting a religious school. Ben Franklin was of a similar mind, as were most of the leading thinkers of the Federalist era. Reading of church documents in schools was a vestige of Puritan theocracy that was maintained in the Northeast long after most of the country had developed separation of church and state to a higher level. The Constitution, O Ye of LIttle Comprehension, covers federal intervention because it is the document that governs the federal government. It could not mandate education because that was a power reserved to the states. State governments took different positions upon this. Roger Williams, founder of Rhode Island, took the position that church and state should be entirely separate and thus Rhode Island did not blend the two.
In the context of this discussion of Notre Dame High School, perhaps the more relevant discussion is whether the founders of Catholicism proposed elite academies for the wealthy in which the mating rituals of pedophiles and those of students create a morass of immorality that defies comparison.
Thomas Jefferson was a founder but not a framer or signer of the constitution. He was actually in France during the Constitutional Convention. Thomas Jefferson while president attened chuch servives every Sunday in the US House of Representatives. As president he expressed his opinion about a wall of separation in a letter responding to a group of Baptists (Danbury, CT) who feared persecution from the Congregationalist majority. His point being that the FEDERAL government should play no part in the rights of states when it came to religion or anything else not specifically enumerated in the Constitution. It wasn't until the 1940's when a Supreme Court justice plucked this obscure reference from this obscure letter in order to justify a decision.

President Obama was just inaugurated. When I listened to his speech it occurred to me that inauguration speeches give a really good glimpse into what is going on in America at the time they are written. I went back and read some starting with George Washington's first. I think if you want a true picture of how religion was viewed back then that speech is a good place to start. I went to public school. I learned history thoughout that time. When I went to college I took US history electives because I enjoy history. What I've learned in the years since then is that a lot of history is revised or downright whitewashed. For instance, I always learned that Abraham Lincoln was four square against slavery and the champion in the fight against it. Read Lincoln's first inaugural address. Read about his plan to send freed slave to Africa(Liberia) and Panama because he wa convinced they were ill equipped to live in a society alongside white people. I think you should look deeper if you are going to try to validate your opinion using historical references that's all.

Almost forgot.
Roger Williams and his cohorts founded Rhode Island after being expelled from their home states (Williams from MA) for preaching separation of church and state. MA didn't agree with him and kicked him out.
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Jan 24, 2013
 
" It wasn't until the 1940's when a Supreme Court justice plucked this obscure reference from this obscure letter in order to justify a decision."

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It wasn't until the 1940's when a Supreme Court justice plucked this obscure reference from this obscure letter in order to justify a decision that this phrase and what it has come to represent became widely known. It is an opinion, not a law.
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ssss wrote:
" It wasn't until the 1940's when a Supreme Court justice plucked this obscure reference from this obscure letter in order to justify a decision."
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It wasn't until the 1940's when a Supreme Court justice plucked this obscure reference from this obscure letter in order to justify a decision that this phrase and what it has come to represent became widely known. It is an opinion, not a law.
You are the head case that never answered my question days ago as to why you lie continually on Notre Dame topics. You always post the same links, spew the same drivel and always have to be right no matter how many lies it takes. You even admitted once that you have no real connection to that school. Don't you realize what a bad image you are projecting about the people that actually support that school? ND does not need any more fanatics. Your plethora of boring factoids that I'm sure are lifted from third rate sources make us, as in real Notre Dame supporters , look awful. If you want to take up a cause, save the whales and leave Notre Dame out of your repertoire. The damage that you cause is irreparable. Creeps like you make too many people hate our school.
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Doris wrote:
Any chance some of the alters here can take themselves out to coffee with David and his alters for a rousing discussion about notre dame? I'll pick up the tab if I can sit in on it.
Beautiful post! Don'tforget to invite the pinheads as well.
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Sister Anna Mae needs to be replaced.She is always eating out in restaurants.Who is paying for this?Stop giving to the Hope Appeal as ND is now a private school as non catholics attend too.
poatoface

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Jan 24, 2013
 
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Thomas Jefferson was a founder but not a framer or signer of the constitution. He was actually in France during the Constitutional Convention. Thomas Jefferson while president attened chuch servives every Sunday in the US House of Representatives. As president he expressed his opinion about a wall of separation in a letter responding to a group of Baptists (Danbury, CT) who feared persecution from the Congregationalist majority. His point being that the FEDERAL government should play no part in the rights of states when it came to religion or anything else not specifically enumerated in the Constitution. It wasn't until the 1940's when a Supreme Court justice plucked this obscure reference from this obscure letter in order to justify a decision.
President Obama was just inaugurated. When I listened to his speech it occurred to me that inauguration speeches give a really good glimpse into what is going on in America at the time they are written. I went back and read some starting with George Washington's first. I think if you want a true picture of how religion was viewed back then that speech is a good place to start. I went to public school. I learned history thoughout that time. When I went to college I took US history electives because I enjoy history. What I've learned in the years since then is that a lot of history is revised or downright whitewashed. For instance, I always learned that Abraham Lincoln was four square against slavery and the champion in the fight against it. Read Lincoln's first inaugural address. Read about his plan to send freed slave to Africa(Liberia) and Panama because he wa convinced they were ill equipped to live in a society alongside white people. I think you should look deeper if you are going to try to validate your opinion using historical references that's all.
Almost forgot.
Roger Williams and his cohorts founded Rhode Island after being expelled from their home states (Williams from MA) for preaching separation of church and state. MA didn't agree with him and kicked him out.
You sound like a nut. This isn't a history forum. Go blab elsewhere, freak.
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Alumnae wrote:
Sister Anna Mae needs to be replaced.She is always eating out in restaurants.Who is paying for this?Stop giving to the Hope Appeal as ND is now a private school as non catholics attend too.
It's called gluttony and it's paid for by our tuition, tootsie.
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ND alumni wrote:
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You are the head case that never answered my question days ago as to why you lie continually on Notre Dame topics. You always post the same links, spew the same drivel and always have to be right no matter how many lies it takes. You even admitted once that you have no real connection to that school. Don't you realize what a bad image you are projecting about the people that actually support that school? ND does not need any more fanatics. Your plethora of boring factoids that I'm sure are lifted from third rate sources make us, as in real Notre Dame supporters , look awful. If you want to take up a cause, save the whales and leave Notre Dame out of your repertoire. The damage that you cause is irreparable. Creeps like you make too many people hate our school.
It is easier to just ignore him than to talk sense to him. Don't waste your time or energy.
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#132
Jan 24, 2013
 
Well after having read these posts it's apparent that the only school that I will be sending my children to is ND. All the people on here that support ND are well spoken & intelligent. The "other" posters are rude & name call & are hateful. I don't want my children to be a product of that environment. ND has respect, not to mention class. Here we come ND. I will be at the open house next week.
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Julie wrote:
Well after having read these posts it's apparent that the only school that I will be sending my children to is ND. All the people on here that support ND are well spoken & intelligent. The "other" posters are rude & name call & are hateful. I don't want my children to be a product of that environment. ND has respect, not to mention class. Here we come ND. I will be at the open house next week.
Who cares???? Have fun paying 6 gs, your regular school taxes and volunteering for bs stuff forever. Bust out the checkbook Jules cause at every turn good old nd will be standing there w their hands out!!!
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#134
Jan 24, 2013
 
YOU SPEAK OF SISTER ANNAMAE COLLINS EATING OUT ALL THE TIME,,,, I would suppose BRUCE KAREM EATS OUT OFTEN TOO! OH NO HE EATS AT MAMMAS HOUSE. IN MY EYES THE PERSON WITH SUCH RESPONSIBILITIES AS RUNNING A HIGH SCHOOL SHOULD BE PAID ENOUGH MONEY TO AFFORD TO GO OUT TO DINNER,,,,,,,
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lol wrote:
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Who cares???? Have fun paying 6 gs, your regular school taxes and volunteering for bs stuff forever. Bust out the checkbook Jules cause at every turn good old nd will be standing there w their hands out!!!
Thanks I will be happy to do just that to insure the best education for my child. And by the way, I love volunteering, especially to help out my children & their school. That's the problem with public schools. None of the parents want to get involved. I will be involved in every facet of my child's life. Gladly.
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I gladly spend the 6 grand a year to keep my child away from some of the students at Proctor. I'm not singling out any race. You can't even go to a baskeball game and watch the game because the students have no consideration for other people.
Utica and proud

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Feb 5, 2013
 
tommy wrote:
Apparently Fr. Lorenz had a sexual relationship with a 16 year old girl who went to him for help when he was a guidance counselor. He got her drunk and then repeatedly took advantage of her. Read all about it on the link below. She has had a horrible life ever since. Yeah, a real great guy...
http://www.nyclergyabuse.com/documents/Syracu...
First off t was an 18 year old look up the article in was in the OD.As I have said I actually have a job and don't care as much as you apparently do about topix. Why the anger? Beleive it or not people are entitled to an opinion. It's kind of intresting the number of people who are perfect who are on topix.

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