Democracy? Forget about It...

Democracy? Forget about It...

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Rome, NY

#1 Mar 20, 2014
The people of Crimea have spoken, at least according to what they claim to be fair referendum results (although the EU and the US dispute them). Naturally, the defenders of "democracy" are appalled. Convenient BS to be sure-

Why are folks in the West so animated? Isn't the principle of self-determination enshrined in the Declaration of Independence... and wasn't it repeated in the setup documents for the League of Nations... as well as the United Nations?

Isn't the right of people to decide for themselves by whom they will be misgoverned the sacred foundation stone of democracy?

"Self-determination" has always been convenient BS. It is only handy when you have the guns to back it up. Otherwise, it is just air.

America's greatest and bloodiest war the War Between the States proved it. You can talk about democracy all you want; but when push comes to shove, the pushers always shove you around.

Compare Putin with Lincoln. Putin invaded Crimea, where people overwhelmingly wanted him to come. Lincoln invaded Virginia, where no one wanted him.

As far as we know, Putin's men didn't fire a shot. Lincoln's troops shot at everything that moved. By the time they were finished, one out of four white men of fighting age in the South was dead.

And then, after the troops were firmly in control of their prize, do you remember Lincoln offering the South a chance to vote on whether they wanted to rejoin the North?

And where was the declaration that the South was sovereign and independent? We must have missed it.

My fewllow Americans, please DO NOT buy into any of the self-aggrandizing BS garbage that the American/EU "leaders" and talking heads have to say regarding Russia/Crimea. Bama/Kerry, et al, calling Russia out on Democracy or legitimacy and/or legality of action is worse than the "pot calling the kettle black". Do the informed, patriotic thing and oppose the propaganda schemes at every turn. Thank you.

Rome, NY

#2 Mar 20, 2014
Woodrow Wilson, one of the neocons' icons, dragged America into the First World War under the slogan of "making the world safe for democracy." The principal warring parties were perplexed, considering that France was already a republic, Britain a constitutional democracy with a fine parliamentary tradition, while Germany, Austria and even Russia had functioning parliaments, even though the last had been struggling to come to terms with it. And all those parliaments craved war.

Go figure...
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Rome, NY

#3 Mar 20, 2014
We have such BS country!

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