Landlords bullied in utica?

Landlords bullied in utica?

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Level 1

Since: Apr 13

Syracuse, NY

#1 Apr 16, 2013
What do you think guys?
A Landlord

Utica, NY

#2 Apr 16, 2013
gwapa wrote:
What do you think guys?
Absolutely, actually what government is doing is trying to drive the little guy out.
Another Landlord

Utica, NY

#3 Apr 16, 2013
About 5 years ago I owned almost 50 apartment units in the city of Utica, I paid my taxes(on time), properly insured my bldgs and dealt with all the highs and lows of doing this. Worked with the County, Section 8 and other programs. Interacted with Codes from time to time, all the things one would expect from being a landlord.

Over the last 5 years the City has made it clear, that they don't want my business. Officials have tried to nickel and dime me at every opportunity with this fee and that fee, calling myself and others that do what I do bad for the City.

OK, you win, I have done everything in my power to sell everything I own in the City. I have sold to people who live over 200 miles away as well as people who have turned my bldgs to drug infested crackhouses. I don't care anymore if they have the cash its theirs, I don't want to do it anymore. I have used that money to invest in properties outside of Utica, that's who now gets my tax dollars.

I am down to a few units left, my goal is to be out of Utica completely by the end of the year. It's just not worth the aggravation. I'll take the good tenants with me and you can have the rest.
Truth

Utica, NY

#4 Apr 16, 2013
If you go to the New Yok State Attorney General's website you'll find a lengthy publication called "Tenant's Rights".
http://www.ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/pdfs...

There is no publication called Landlords Rights. That says it all in tems of how the state thinks about this issue.

Being a landlord is difficult business especially in the City of Utica. Because interest rates are low, anyone credit worthy can buy a home for less than the cost of renting. It was even worse a few years ago when banks were writing mortgages to anyone who could fog a mirror. What was left was pretty much the bottom of the barrel and landlords had to put up with what they were able to get.

Many tenants seem to have the view that the landlord pockets their rent check every month and that gives them the right to do as they please. What the don't recognize is that the rent check often goes for a mortgage payment, taxes, homeowners insurance, water/sewer fees and a rainy day fund in case something like a furnace or roof goes.

Take a ride around Utica and look at what are obviously multi-unit rentals. Look at how these people live and how much respect they have for someone else's property. After you do that think about the fact that there is no landlord's rights publication on the NYS AG's website.
Bill

Utica, NY

#5 Apr 16, 2013
They ran my small business out-of-town. Political on the Palmerei trail. Thank god NH wants business. I guess since Utica is doing so well, hahahahahaha, they don't need anymore small business operations. This is real Utica, the city is bad news with corrupt people in charge.
Agree

New Hartford, NY

#6 Apr 16, 2013
Truth wrote:
If you go to the New Yok State Attorney General's website you'll find a lengthy publication called "Tenant's Rights".
http://www.ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/pdfs...
There is no publication called Landlords Rights. That says it all in tems of how the state thinks about this issue.
Being a landlord is difficult business especially in the City of Utica. Because interest rates are low, anyone credit worthy can buy a home for less than the cost of renting. It was even worse a few years ago when banks were writing mortgages to anyone who could fog a mirror. What was left was pretty much the bottom of the barrel and landlords had to put up with what they were able to get.
Many tenants seem to have the view that the landlord pockets their rent check every month and that gives them the right to do as they please. What the don't recognize is that the rent check often goes for a mortgage payment, taxes, homeowners insurance, water/sewer fees and a rainy day fund in case something like a furnace or roof goes.
Take a ride around Utica and look at what are obviously multi-unit rentals. Look at how these people live and how much respect they have for someone else's property. After you do that think about the fact that there is no landlord's rights publication on the NYS AG's website.
Most people who rent in Utica are on some type of social service and they dont care how they live. They will live in filth, create rodent and insect infestations then blame the landlord. The politicians here are way off base in this attempt to blame codes for a persons lifestyle choices. We need good landlords to be protected from this type of scum. How many landlord recover the damage money after a tenant trashes his home and moves out?
landlord

Utica, NY

#7 Apr 17, 2013
Another Landlord wrote:
About 5 years ago I owned almost 50 apartment units in the city of Utica, I paid my taxes(on time), properly insured my bldgs and dealt with all the highs and lows of doing this. Worked with the County, Section 8 and other programs. Interacted with Codes from time to time, all the things one would expect from being a landlord.
Over the last 5 years the City has made it clear, that they don't want my business. Officials have tried to nickel and dime me at every opportunity with this fee and that fee, calling myself and others that do what I do bad for the City.
OK, you win, I have done everything in my power to sell everything I own in the City. I have sold to people who live over 200 miles away as well as people who have turned my bldgs to drug infested crackhouses. I don't care anymore if they have the cash its theirs, I don't want to do it anymore. I have used that money to invest in properties outside of Utica, that's who now gets my tax dollars.
I am down to a few units left, my goal is to be out of Utica completely by the end of the year. It's just not worth the aggravation. I'll take the good tenants with me and you can have the rest.
are you better off with out properties, similar situation, sick of all the b.s., thinking hard about getting out or at the very least downsizing.
Another Landlord

United States

#8 Apr 17, 2013
landlord wrote:
<quoted text>are you better off with out properties, similar situation, sick of all the b.s., thinking hard about getting out or at the very least downsizing.
I still have properties, just less of them in areas were I can command higher rents and a much better quality tenant. Additionally less turnover and less day to day aggravation.

Level 1

Since: Apr 13

Syracuse, NY

#9 Sep 8, 2013
I agree, the problem in Utica there are many politician and inspectors who are self serving. Example harmoney speciale, spend all her time trying to take other people's are just trying to help her mothers restaurant. Not caring about the rest of the area she is supposed to be paying attention to.
Another Landlord wrote:
About 5 years ago I owned almost 50 apartment units in the city of Utica, I paid my taxes(on time), properly insured my bldgs and dealt with all the highs and lows of doing this. Worked with the County, Section 8 and other programs. Interacted with Codes from time to time, all the things one would expect from being a landlord.
Over the last 5 years the City has made it clear, that they don't want my business. Officials have tried to nickel and dime me at every opportunity with this fee and that fee, calling myself and others that do what I do bad for the City.
OK, you win, I have done everything in my power to sell everything I own in the City. I have sold to people who live over 200 miles away as well as people who have turned my bldgs to drug infested crackhouses. I don't care anymore if they have the cash its theirs, I don't want to do it anymore. I have used that money to invest in properties outside of Utica, that's who now gets my tax dollars.
I am down to a few units left, my goal is to be out of Utica completely by the end of the year. It's just not worth the aggravation. I'll take the good tenants with me and you can have the rest.

Level 1

Since: Apr 13

Syracuse, NY

#10 Sep 8, 2013
Typo .....other people's property....!
gwapa wrote:
I agree, the problem in Utica there are many politician and inspectors who are self serving. Example harmoney speciale, spend all her time trying to take other people's are just trying to help her mothers restaurant. Not caring about the rest of the area she is supposed to be paying attention to. <quoted text>
Victimhood is Power

Moravia, NY

#11 Sep 8, 2013
Really? I know someone who was without heat all winter -- had to heat the house with the oven and stove top burners -- because the furnace failed and the landlord wouldn't do anything about it. Renter called codes, landlord told codes he would fix it and never did. Renter called codes again and again. Nothing was ever done. So I think you all are talkin out your @$$.
Just saying

Utica, NY

#12 Sep 12, 2013
If the landlords could just take the time to up grade, maintain and take full responsibilities for their actions and properties they shouldn't have any complaints.If you are not happy with the way your tenant's life style is...then do something about it. Keep their deposit for the damages that they have cause or take them to court. To all you landlords out there stop complaining about it and do something positive about it.

Level 6

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#13 Sep 12, 2013
Another Landlord wrote:
About 5 years ago I owned almost 50 apartment units in the city of Utica, I paid my taxes(on time), properly insured my bldgs and dealt with all the highs and lows of doing this. Worked with the County, Section 8 and other programs. Interacted with Codes from time to time, all the things one would expect from being a landlord.
Over the last 5 years the City has made it clear, that they don't want my business. Officials have tried to nickel and dime me at every opportunity with this fee and that fee, calling myself and others that do what I do bad for the City.
OK, you win, I have done everything in my power to sell everything I own in the City. I have sold to people who live over 200 miles away as well as people who have turned my bldgs to drug infested crackhouses. I don't care anymore if they have the cash its theirs, I don't want to do it anymore. I have used that money to invest in properties outside of Utica, that's who now gets my tax dollars.
I am down to a few units left, my goal is to be out of Utica completely by the end of the year. It's just not worth the aggravation. I'll take the good tenants with me and you can have the rest.
I’m sorry to read your story, but it is the other types of landlords that have really caused all your problems. It’s the landlords who don’t give a crap who they rent to, never put a dime into their buildings, take advantage of their tenants, don’t pay their taxes, water bills, etc… These guys are the reason we have the regulations and laws that you detest. There are great landlords and there are great tenants. There are also horrible landlords and tenants. It is the bad examples that cause problems for the good ones. Don’t put all the blame on the city. There are reasons we have so many laws and regulations. If all landlords were like you, we wouldn't need them.
Landlord

Whitesboro, NY

#14 Sep 12, 2013
JusticeDefiled13501 wrote:
<quoted text>
I’m sorry to read your story, but it is the other types of landlords that have really caused all your problems. It’s the landlords who don’t give a crap who they rent to, never put a dime into their buildings, take advantage of their tenants, don’t pay their taxes, water bills, etc… These guys are the reason we have the regulations and laws that you detest. There are great landlords and there are great tenants. There are also horrible landlords and tenants. It is the bad examples that cause problems for the good ones. Don’t put all the blame on the city. There are reasons we have so many laws and regulations. If all landlords were like you, we wouldn't need them.
Excuse me, where are these properties in Utica where a landlord can avoid paying tax and water bills? Pretty sure my water gets turned off if the bill is unpaid and if the taxes are unpaid the property is seized by the city/county. If the bills are late the fees are so high it makes credit card companies jealous. Never put a dime in their properties? What building never needs repair because the utica codes dept is well staffed and the fire dept rop inspectors will open your wallet. You must be referring to a fool because to be a landlord in utica longer than 5 minutes takes responsibility.
One who knows

New Hartford, NY

#15 Sep 12, 2013
Victimhood is Power wrote:
Really? I know someone who was without heat all winter -- had to heat the house with the oven and stove top burners -- because the furnace failed and the landlord wouldn't do anything about it. Renter called codes, landlord told codes he would fix it and never did. Renter called codes again and again. Nothing was ever done. So I think you all are talkin out your @$$.
This welfare POS chose to stay! I think your talkin out ur crack pipe! Any NORMAL civilized human being would not live in those conditions here in the good ol USA and definitely not in the welfare capital of the world OOOtICA UNLESS they choose to. POS isnt human and you are the one hooked on the crank they put out of houses like that so STFU! HS
the truth

Waterville, NY

#16 Mar 25, 2015
Victimhood is Power wrote:
Really? I know someone who was without heat all winter -- had to heat the house with the oven and stove top burners -- because the furnace failed and the landlord wouldn't do anything about it. Renter called codes, landlord told codes he would fix it and never did. Renter called codes again and again. Nothing was ever done. So I think you all are talkin out your @$$.
That is terrible! For tenants there are bad landlords out there for landlords there are bad tenants as well. But in utica more bad tenants in my opinion. It is due to the fact of the mentality of welfare people. Not all but most! The mentality of " people will do it for me" example a lot of tenants in Utica tend to drop trash around their own unit. Instead of keeping there own units clean they do not, they will call codes on landlords for their own trash. Instead of taking care of the units they destroy it, holes on walls, broken doors, missing light bulb etc., the money that the landlord gets that's supposed to go for upgrading the unit goes to repairs because most welfare tenants in Utica do not have the money to pay for the damages they caused, they won't even help you fix it! The security can't even cover the damages some of these tenants caused. This person you know should just find a better landlord it is as easy as that. Unlike tenants in Utica it is not easy for landlords to find good tenant in Utica.
Ithaca

Ithaca, NY

#17 Mar 29, 2015
Just saying wrote:
If the landlords could just take the time to up grade, maintain and take full responsibilities for their actions and properties they shouldn't have any complaints.If you are not happy with the way your tenant's life style is...then do something about it. Keep their deposit for the damages that they have cause or take them to court. To all you landlords out there stop complaining about it and do something positive about it.
You have obviously never been a landlord. A single tenant can cause much more damage than the security deposit. They have far more rights than the oewner of the property.
Ithaca

Ithaca, NY

#18 Mar 29, 2015
Face it, we live in a socialist state, that caters to the welfare bums that vote <D>. The law is on their side. Further we have huge, obese, costly government breathing down the next of any property or business owner, sucking down every nickle in taxes, fees, or fine. Lastly you have the vermin lawyers. You are really nuts to put up with it. Cash out your properties and move to a warmer, sunnier state that balances property rights with tenant rights.
Oh no-not again

Utica, NY

#22 Mar 30, 2015
If you think landlords don't have some responsibility for the way their property is maintained, you are crazy. I moved to Utica from outside the state and found it amazing that people just throw trash from the cars or toss it down while walking and eating. No one seems to care about the state of the city regardless of income. My husband and I rented while we were buying our house. What a joke. The landlord came in without notice and used our electric. They tried to charge us for extra water usage when in fact she had written bad checks for the water and was being assessed a fee driving up the expense. The neighbor had "decorated" our entrance with her dollar store decorations making it difficult to use the stairs. And, when trash day came, the recycling bins were tossed about with half the recycling left in them and around them. I noticed in a more expensive neighborhood nearby, the recycling was more carefully handled and not left laying all over the streets/lawns. When I bought my house, the neighborhood was decent. In only a few years, absentee landlords own quite a bit of property and rent to anyone, including people who sell and use drugs, host wild parties and throw trash everywhere. They don't care as long as someone comes up with the rent. I have had to quarrel with these landlords about the upkeep of their property as well as their tenants who throw diapers and trash out of the windows and on to my yard. People smoke cigarettes while walking by and just their lit cigarettes onto my grass in addition to drink bottles and cans. Utica is filthy because no one gives a damn. It is not about welfare recipients or landlords only.

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