Global Climate Change Hoax

Global Climate Change Hoax

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#1 Jul 2, 2013
Non stop rain and flash floods in the North East, Massive wildfires in the South West, Temps over 100 degrees in 6 States.

Global Climate Change is OBVIOUSLY a Hoax.

Thanks Fox (so called) News!

What would we do without your years of reporting(lies) on this subject?
Truth

Utica, NY

#2 Jul 2, 2013
Bodhisatva wrote:
Non stop rain and flash floods in the North East, Massive wildfires in the South West, Temps over 100 degrees in 6 States.
Global Climate Change is OBVIOUSLY a Hoax.
Thanks Fox (so called) News!
What would we do without your years of reporting(lies) on this subject?
If you actually ever watched Fox News or took the time to look at what those with an opposing view have to say you'd find that by and large they don't refute the fact that the climate is changing or that global temperatures have risen. Those things by any objective measure are happening. What is in question is the cause, is it man-made and how much we should spend.

Is this a natural occurrence like what has happened since forever due to the cyclical nature of the planet or, does it have to do with the activities of man or is it something else? If there was conclusive evidence that the activities of man are causing global climate change then game, set, match to your side. There is not. The question is then how much should we spend on schemes like "cap & trade" that are based on a maybe?

This is just another of those discussion that has become and emotional rant point for the left.
dummypants

United States

#3 Jul 2, 2013
It can't be due to human activity, people love their SUVs.
aSKing

Utica, NY

#4 Jul 2, 2013
Bodhisatva wrote:
Non stop rain and flash floods in the North East, Massive wildfires in the South West, Temps over 100 degrees in 6 States.
Global Climate Change is OBVIOUSLY a Hoax.
Thanks Fox (so called) News!
What would we do without your years of reporting(lies) on this subject?
I think God might be mad at the gay marriage ruling, the morning after pill ruling that makes it available to all ages without parental consent, all of the pro-abortion sentiment and the general decline of our culture.

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#5 Jul 2, 2013
aSKing wrote:
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I think God might be mad at the gay marriage ruling, the morning after pill ruling that makes it available to all ages without parental consent, all of the pro-abortion sentiment and the general decline of our culture.
Why is your God so vengeful?

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#6 Jul 2, 2013
Truth wrote:
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If you actually ever watched Fox News or took the time to look at what those with an opposing view have to say you'd find that by and large they don't refute the fact that the climate is changing or that global temperatures have risen. Those things by any objective measure are happening. What is in question is the cause, is it man-made and how much we should spend.
Is this a natural occurrence like what has happened since forever due to the cyclical nature of the planet or, does it have to do with the activities of man or is it something else? If there was conclusive evidence that the activities of man are causing global climate change then game, set, match to your side. There is not. The question is then how much should we spend on schemes like "cap & trade" that are based on a maybe?
This is just another of those discussion that has become and emotional rant point for the left.


Skeptical Science Study Finds 97% Consensus on Human-Caused Global Warming in the Peer-Reviewed Literature

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#7 Jul 2, 2013
Truth wrote:
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If you actually ever watched Fox News or took the time to look at what those with an opposing view have to say you'd find that by and large they don't refute the fact that the climate is changing or that global temperatures have risen. Those things by any objective measure are happening. What is in question is the cause, is it man-made and how much we should spend.
Is this a natural occurrence like what has happened since forever due to the cyclical nature of the planet or, does it have to do with the activities of man or is it something else? If there was conclusive evidence that the activities of man are causing global climate change then game, set, match to your side. There is not. The question is then how much should we spend on schemes like "cap & trade" that are based on a maybe?
This is just another of those discussion that has become and emotional rant point for the left.
From:Scientific American Magazine

Climatewire :: June 28, 2013

Human-Caused Global Warming Behind Record Hot Australian Summer
A new study links the 2012 heat waves Down Under

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#8 Jul 2, 2013
Truth wrote:
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If you actually ever watched Fox News or took the time to look at what those with an opposing view have to say you'd find that by and large they don't refute the fact that the climate is changing or that global temperatures have risen. Those things by any objective measure are happening. What is in question is the cause, is it man-made and how much we should spend.
Is this a natural occurrence like what has happened since forever due to the cyclical nature of the planet or, does it have to do with the activities of man or is it something else? If there was conclusive evidence that the activities of man are causing global climate change then game, set, match to your side. There is not.
How we know human activity is causing warming

We know the planet is warming — scientists have a clear understanding why

The theory of global warming is nothing new. The Nobel Prize-winning chemist Svante Arrhenius first proposed the idea of global warming in 1896. Carbon dioxide, he knew, traps heat in the Earth's atmosphere. He also knew that burning coal and oil releases carbon dioxide (CO2).

Arrhenius speculated that continued burning of coal and oil would increase concentrations of CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere, making the planet warmer. It's called the greenhouse effect.

What warms the Earth?

To determine what is causing today's rapid global warming, scientists have examined all the factors that can affect the Earth's temperature. There are essentially three factors that could be responsible for recent rapid global warming:

1.The sun
2.Earth's reflectivity
3.Greenhouse gases
Which of these is causing our current global warming?

It's not the sun: cause of little warming since 1750, none since 1980s

Ultimately, the climate system is powered by the sun: all else being equal, if you turn up the sun, you'll warm up the Earth. According to IPCC estimates, the sun has accounted for just a small portion of warming since 1750. A study of more recent solar activity has demonstrated that since about 1985 the sun has changed in ways that, if anything, should have cooled the planet—even as global temperatures have been rising. So the sun is not causing global warming.

It's not reflectivity: changes point to cooling, not warming

Around 30% of the sun's energy that reaches the Earth is reflected back into space. Changes in how much sunlight is absorbed, and how much is reflected, can affect global temperatures. Using satellite and land-based observations and computer models, scientists have calculated how Earth's reflectivity has changed over time.

These calculations suggest that human-produced particulate pollution, especially reflective sulfur-containing particles, have had a cooling effect on the climate, masking some of the warming effect of greenhouse gases. In fact, the slight decrease in global temperature between 1945 and 1975 was likely caused by a combination of rising particulate pollution and natural factors. Warming resumed after 1975 when industrialized countries began to clean up their particulate pollution while continuing to increase their greenhouse gas emissions.

As for human land use changes (primarily forest clearing for agriculture), they have on balance brightened the planet since 1750. This would have a cooling effect, yet we've seen warming. Changes in the frequency of volcanic eruptions, which can send reflective particles up into the stratosphere, also cannot explain the observed warming trend. So reflectivity is not causing global warming.

All the evidence points to greenhouse gases

That leaves the greenhouse effect as the only remaining scientific explanation for the rise in global temperatures in recent decades. We have direct measurements of CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere going back more than 50 years, and indirect measurements (from ice cores) going back hundreds of thousands of years. These measurements confirm that concentrations are rising rapidly.
Scammer

New York, NY

#9 Jul 2, 2013
Yes it is. Just a really big scam like Obama care. Old Al Gore the PT Barnum of climate scamolla will be raking in millions on this carbon trade exchange. Along with Billy Ayers brother, the former head of Bank America, to name a few. Gore;s old man made his fortune on oil and now junior tends to make a killing on this scam.

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#10 Jul 2, 2013
Scammer wrote:
Yes it is. Just a really big scam like Obama care. Old Al Gore the PT Barnum of climate scamolla will be raking in millions on this carbon trade exchange. Along with Billy Ayers brother, the former head of Bank America, to name a few. Gore;s old man made his fortune on oil and now junior tends to make a killing on this scam.
Yeah whatever, Glenn Beck, The Builderbergs, Alex Jones and surplus Tin Foil Hats.
It's time to ignore "Flat Earthers" like you and save our Planet.
my oh my

New York, NY

#11 Jul 2, 2013
It seems ironic with the 117+ temps in Vegas that it was even hotter 100 years ago there. It must have been all those bullets the cowboys were shooting that warmed the planet more than my suv does today.

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#12 Jul 2, 2013
my oh my wrote:
It seems ironic with the 117+ temps in Vegas that it was even hotter 100 years ago there. It must have been all those bullets the cowboys were shooting that warmed the planet more than my suv does today.
Crack is Whack.
HotHotHot

Ithaca, NY

#13 Jul 2, 2013
The hoax was exposed in 2009 via hacked emails from the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists...

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#14 Jul 2, 2013
Bodhisatva wrote:
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How we know human activity is causing warming
We know the planet is warming — scientists have a clear understanding why
The theory of global warming is nothing new. The Nobel Prize-winning chemist Svante Arrhenius first proposed the idea of global warming in 1896. Carbon dioxide, he knew, traps heat in the Earth's atmosphere. He also knew that burning coal and oil releases carbon dioxide (CO2).
Arrhenius speculated that continued burning of coal and oil would increase concentrations of CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere, making the planet warmer. It's called the greenhouse effect.
What warms the Earth?
To determine what is causing today's rapid global warming, scientists have examined all the factors that can affect the Earth's temperature. There are essentially three factors that could be responsible for recent rapid global warming:
1.The sun
2.Earth's reflectivity
3.Greenhouse gases
Which of these is causing our current global warming?
It's not the sun: cause of little warming since 1750, none since 1980s
Ultimately, the climate system is powered by the sun: all else being equal, if you turn up the sun, you'll warm up the Earth. According to IPCC estimates, the sun has accounted for just a small portion of warming since 1750. A study of more recent solar activity has demonstrated that since about 1985 the sun has changed in ways that, if anything, should have cooled the planet—even as global temperatures have been rising. So the sun is not causing global warming.
It's not reflectivity: changes point to cooling, not warming
Around 30% of the sun's energy that reaches the Earth is reflected back into space. Changes in how much sunlight is absorbed, and how much is reflected, can affect global temperatures. Using satellite and land-based observations and computer models, scientists have calculated how Earth's reflectivity has changed over time.
These calculations suggest that human-produced particulate pollution, especially reflective sulfur-containing particles, have had a cooling effect on the climate, masking some of the warming effect of greenhouse gases. In fact, the slight decrease in global temperature between 1945 and 1975 was likely caused by a combination of rising particulate pollution and natural factors. Warming resumed after 1975 when industrialized countries began to clean up their particulate pollution while continuing to increase their greenhouse gas emissions.
As for human land use changes (primarily forest clearing for agriculture), they have on balance brightened the planet since 1750. This would have a cooling effect, yet we've seen warming. Changes in the frequency of volcanic eruptions, which can send reflective particles up into the stratosphere, also cannot explain the observed warming trend. So reflectivity is not causing global warming.
All the evidence points to greenhouse gases
That leaves the greenhouse effect as the only remaining scientific explanation for the rise in global temperatures in recent decades. We have direct measurements of CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere going back more than 50 years, and indirect measurements (from ice cores) going back hundreds of thousands of years. These measurements confirm that concentrations are rising rapidly.
Please stop with all of the facts. You are confusing the Fox News, Limbaugh loving zombies.
Horse and Buggy

New York, NY

#15 Jul 2, 2013
Trains, planes, and automobiles need to be banned now!! No more gas engines period!!
Power should only be created by non-fossil fuels such as water power or nuclear energy.
Plastic needs to be banned!
Aerosols need to be banned!
No more gas grills!
No more fires!
and the list goes on....

Our lives will be much different but changes are necessary now to stop global warming!!
Scammer

New York, NY

#16 Jul 3, 2013
HotHotHot wrote:
The hoax was exposed in 2009 via hacked emails from the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists...
You got it. Hoax.. They get caught fudging numbers and still the mindless will not see. Gore and the rest are getting rich off your stupidity. Get real. That is the hypocrisy of the left. Do not dare question us. We are right. More Green Koolaide?
Truth

Utica, NY

#17 Jul 3, 2013
Truth Dig wrote:
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Please stop with all of the facts. You are confusing the Fox News, Limbaugh loving zombies.
The facts are that:
-The dire predictions made over the past decade have not come to pass.

-New historic data shows that there has been a lull in warming over the past ten years that doesn't fit the previous analysis and predictions.

-This has become more of an emotional and political debate than a scientific one.

This recent "Forbes" magazine article addresses this very subject:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/...

"Global warming alarmists and their allies in the liberal media have been caught doctoring the results of a widely cited paper asserting there is a 97-percent scientific consensus regarding human-caused global warming."

For the record, I am neither a Limbaugh fan nor am I a Fox News junkie. I prefer to look at many sources on a given subject, make my own assessment of bias and then formulate an opinion based on that. I know it's easy to dismiss opinions that run counter to yours with tired left wing rhetoric, but it just isn't true.
Truth

Utica, NY

#18 Jul 3, 2013
Bodhisatva wrote:
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Skeptical Science Study Finds 97% Consensus on Human-Caused Global Warming in the Peer-Reviewed Literature
Again I'd like you to take a look at this since John Cook and the "Skeptical Science" blog are your source for the 97% figure.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/...
stosh zankowski

Long Eddy, NY

#19 Jul 3, 2013
In 1990 Ted Danson professed that the earth's oceans would rise anywhere from 10-20'. Why hasn't it happened??
Truth

Utica, NY

#20 Jul 3, 2013
stosh zankowski wrote:
In 1990 Ted Danson professed that the earth's oceans would rise anywhere from 10-20'. Why hasn't it happened??
There have been a lot of people who have written books, made movies, given speeches and people like Ted who just plain got their names in the news. In Hollywood any press is good press when no one is paying attention to you any more.

The point is that a lot of people benefitted financially from this debate. That's a really good reason to look closely at who is saying what and figuring out what their motives might be.

The same thing is going on with the hydrofracking debate right now.

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