Interesting Article On The AHL...

KY WELLER
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#22 Apr 3, 2013
Stanwix Prison wrote:
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What more proof would you like? I can't officially announce the team myself. If people are not able to put two and two together for themselves then they need to wait for the official announcement. I know what I have been told and its about as credible as it gets...CREDIBLE as it gets. I just find it funny all of these outside media sources keep citing utica...coincidence? Hardly. Lol. Yes the news sources in abbotsford...vancouver...peori a...Chicago...Calgary?? They just picked utica out of a hat...all of them! Lol
Someone is using a known former AHL city for leverage,so what? There have been no local stories that I have seen. You said "end of the month"... You can tell by the smell,that she isn't feeling well when the end of the month rolls around!
Knowing

Herkimer, NY

#23 Apr 3, 2013
KY WELLER wrote:
<quoted text> Someone is using a known former AHL city for leverage,so what? There have been no local stories that I have seen. You said "end of the month"... You can tell by the smell,that she isn't feeling well when the end of the month rolls around!
Here's the problem: if Stanwix prison had a woman he wouldn' t be using topix as a substitute for sex; he'd be enjoying the real thing:)
Stanwix Prison

Albany, NY

#24 Apr 3, 2013
Knowing wrote:
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Here's the problem: if Stanwix prison had a woman he wouldn' t be using topix as a substitute for sex; he'd be enjoying the real thing:)
...have a girl actually. Why are you here?
Stanwix Prison

Albany, NY

#25 Apr 3, 2013
KY WELLER wrote:
<quoted text> Someone is using a known former AHL city for leverage,so what? There have been no local stories that I have seen. You said "end of the month"... You can tell by the smell,that she isn't feeling well when the end of the month rolls around!
I suggest you stay tuned. It's going to be interesting...like murder mystery type interesting.
Knowing

Herkimer, NY

#26 Apr 3, 2013
Stanwix Prison wrote:
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...have a girl actually. Why are you here?
No, I'm not talking about an inflatable; I meant a real woman.
Stanwix Prison

Albany, NY

#27 Apr 3, 2013
Knowing wrote:
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No, I'm not talking about an inflatable; I meant a real woman.
I always find that the people who bring up women on a chat board are usually the ones who don't have one...or have never had one...and can't get one...but continue down that path if you will.

Enjoy the games this fall uticans. Don't f uck it up.
Knowing

Herkimer, NY

#28 Apr 4, 2013
Stanwix Prison wrote:
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I always find that the people who bring up women on a chat board are usually the ones who don't have one...or have never had one...and can't get one...but continue down that path if you will.
Enjoy the games this fall uticans. Don't f uck it up.
You couldn't find shyt or a missing hockey team. Abbottsford is where you will enjoy hockey this fall.
Stanwix Prison

Albany, NY

#29 Apr 4, 2013
Knowing wrote:
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You couldn't find shyt or a missing hockey team. Abbottsford is where you will enjoy hockey this fall.
Enjoy the games this fall.
Truth

Utica, NY

#30 Apr 4, 2013
Stanwix Prison wrote:
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Enjoy the games this fall.
How is it you cling to your belief even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary? Yesterday's story in the Calgary newspaper had a quote from the Flames organization saying that no deal is in place. That wasn't opinion or from and anonymous user on a blog, it was a direct quote from those at the top of the foodchain in this. How do you explian that?
Knowing

Herkimer, NY

#31 Apr 4, 2013
Truth wrote:
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How is it you cling to your belief even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary? Yesterday's story in the Calgary newspaper had a quote from the Flames organization saying that no deal is in place. That wasn't opinion or from and anonymous user on a blog, it was a direct quote from those at the top of the foodchain in this. How do you explian that?
You must remember that you are dealing with the mentality of a used
car salesman, not a nuclear physicist. So, maybe he has to keep going into see the boss to get an answer ok'd.
justcurious

Carthage, NY

#32 Apr 4, 2013
How many people on here actually follow the AHL, or just started once they read that the Heat possible cuold move here?
Stanwix Prison

Albany, NY

#33 Apr 4, 2013
Truth wrote:
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How is it you cling to your belief even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary? Yesterday's story in the Calgary newspaper had a quote from the Flames organization saying that no deal is in place. That wasn't opinion or from and anonymous user on a blog, it was a direct quote from those at the top of the foodchain in this. How do you explian that?
Enjoy the games this fall.
Truth

Utica, NY

#34 Apr 4, 2013
Stanwix Prison wrote:
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Enjoy the games this fall.
Great explanation.

When you first came to Topix and started this rumor with the pronouncement that we'd see an announcement around March 24 I thiought you were part of a public relations effort to garner support for the idea. Now I just think you like the attention you get.
Wacko

Pittsfield, MA

#35 Apr 4, 2013
Look, it's obvious Utica is in talks about bringing a team here. However, you can't make a formal announcement unless everything is signed and we're 100% in. It would be foolish to make an announcement unless we definitely have a team here. That's why you don't hear anything.
Stanwix Prison

Albany, NY

#36 Apr 4, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Great explanation.
When you first came to Topix and started this rumor with the pronouncement that we'd see an announcement around March 24 I thiought you were part of a public relations effort to garner support for the idea. Now I just think you like the attention you get.
Stories in the media change. Last week the St. Louis blues publicaly said they weren't selling the peoria rivermen...then they did. You'll see. Enjoy the games.
Truth

Utica, NY

#37 Apr 4, 2013
Wacko wrote:
Look, it's obvious Utica is in talks about bringing a team here. However, you can't make a formal announcement unless everything is signed and we're 100% in. It would be foolish to make an announcement unless we definitely have a team here. That's why you don't hear anything.
My point exactly. I think talks have been going on for a long time. I also think there was a chance to bring a team here but it was contingent on some amount of taxpayer funding. The funding didn't make the cut in the budget talks so any informal agreement went south.
Josh P

New Hartford, NY

#38 Apr 4, 2013
Truth wrote:
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My point exactly. I think talks have been going on for a long time. I also think there was a chance to bring a team here but it was contingent on some amount of taxpayer funding. The funding didn't make the cut in the budget talks so any informal agreement went south.
This just out this morning - who knows the REAL truth, but I think there's some to this one...

http://www.abbotsfordtoday.ca/heat-staying-in...
JonBoy

New Hartford, NY

#39 Apr 4, 2013
Josh P wrote:
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This just out this morning - who knows the REAL truth, but I think there's some to this one...
http://www.abbotsfordtoday.ca/heat-staying-in...
Article looks legit to me. True or un-true it's really all we're hearing so I swinging in beleiving it. Although many on Topix say "the deal is done", they may just be basing on what happened 2 months ago. Back in February things might have been 99% in place, but that doesn't mean the other 1% doesn't mean anything....and unfortunatly here it did.

With all hopes down we still have the Crunch don't forget, a team that's going for the cup starting in few weeks!!
Truth

Utica, NY

#40 Apr 4, 2013
Josh P wrote:
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This just out this morning - who knows the REAL truth, but I think there's some to this one...
http://www.abbotsfordtoday.ca/heat-staying-in...
http://www.abbotsfordtoday.ca/heat-staying-in...

"That deal(the current deal) provides the Calgary Flames and the local owners with a ten-year deal guaranteeing the taxpayers of Abbotsford will assume their financial losses."

Who in their right mind would leave a deal like that? Who in their right mind would offer a deal like that?

"So far, Utica, New York, though reported to be prepared to put some taxpayer funds on the negotiating table, appears unprepared to make the deal George Peary made on behalf of Abbotsford taxpayers."

"Though reported"? Reported where? Has anyone ever seen a report that said Utica was going to put some taxpayer funds on the negotiating table?

"Abbotsford taxpayers have lost money on George Peary’s Deal every year since the Heat came to Abbotsford."

And the same thing would happen were they to move to Utica. In the end who do you think is left holding the bag? If you said the taxpayers ding-ding-ding you win!
Truth

Utica, NY

#41 Apr 4, 2013
Stanwix Prison wrote:
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There are plenty of facts actually.
Yes there are. Here are some from the Calgary newspaper:

"Why wouldn’t the Flames be committed to the same people, who
inked the Abbotsford Heat contract and supported this venture,
on behalf of the Abbotsford taxpayer.

$10.8 million in subsidies paid from May, 2009 to Dec. 31, 2012
Add on the predicted $1.9+ million for arena deficit for 2012/13 and the total adds up to $12.6 million……..at another $2+ million over
the next five years, the taxpayer will be paying out at least $23 million by the end of the contract……add in the $30 million cost
overun for the arena taken out of the cities capital reserves, the
amount will be $105 million for arena/hockey alone and we were touted
a $85 million pricetag for Plan A."

Does it sound like the kind of deal that taxpayers here want to enter into?

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