Interesting Article On The AHL...

Interesting Article On The AHL...

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Stanwix Prison

Albany, NY

#1 Apr 1, 2013
...and why Syracuse got its latest affiliate. Hmm...sounds a lot like the situation for utica.

http://admiralshockey.wordpress.com/2012/03/0...
UticaHockey

Waterville, NY

#2 Apr 1, 2013
Very interesting article indeed. If Utica does get a team I believe they would have the least amount of travel in the entire league based on our central location to 5 other NY based teams. Even the New England, Ontario and PA based teams are a reasonable bus trip away.

The prime reason why the AHL exists is to develop players for the NHL. It's charter is not to be an entertainment option in larger non NHL cities like Kansas City, Indianapolis, Salt Lake City etc. Concentrating teams in the North East where hockey has a traditional history and travel is reduced which enables more practice time just makes sense.
Stanwix Prison

Albany, NY

#3 Apr 1, 2013
UticaHockey wrote:
Very interesting article indeed. If Utica does get a team I believe they would have the least amount of travel in the entire league based on our central location to 5 other NY based teams. Even the New England, Ontario and PA based teams are a reasonable bus trip away.
The prime reason why the AHL exists is to develop players for the NHL. It's charter is not to be an entertainment option in larger non NHL cities like Kansas City, Indianapolis, Salt Lake City etc. Concentrating teams in the North East where hockey has a traditional history and travel is reduced which enables more practice time just makes sense.
It's the primary reason why a team is coming to utica. It's why Syracuse was one of the ahl teams to first publicaly endorse this. Road games for Syracuse in utica are pretty much just another home game for them...short bus ride...no hotel...players are home that night. Same goes for Albany, glens falls, Rochester,, Springfield, binghampton, and Hartford.

I hope everyone reads the article.

KY WELLER
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#4 Apr 1, 2013
Hopefully this will help Utica land a team. If they do get a franchise,we need to support it,or we may never get any other teams in any sport. Our reputation will be on the line.
Stanwix Prison

Albany, NY

#5 Apr 1, 2013
KY WELLER wrote:
Hopefully this will help Utica land a team. If they do get a franchise,we need to support it,or we may never get any other teams in any sport. Our reputation will be on the line.
Well, you need to change the "do" in your statement to "did" .:)

KY WELLER
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#6 Apr 1, 2013
Stanwix Prison wrote:
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Well, you need to change the "do" in your statement to "did" .:)
Where is the announcement? You have offered lots of rhetoric and rumors,but no proof.
Stanwix Prison

Albany, NY

#7 Apr 1, 2013
KY WELLER wrote:
<quoted text> Where is the announcement? You have offered lots of rhetoric and rumors,but no proof.
What more proof would you like? I can't officially announce the team myself. If people are not able to put two and two together for themselves then they need to wait for the official announcement. I know what I have been told and its about as credible as it gets...CREDIBLE as it gets. I just find it funny all of these outside media sources keep citing utica...coincidence? Hardly. Lol. Yes the news sources in abbotsford...vancouver...peori a...Chicago...Calgary?? They just picked utica out of a hat...all of them! Lol
prison ft clifton pk

Herkimer, NY

#8 Apr 1, 2013
Stanwix Prison wrote:
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What more proof would you like? I can't officially announce the team myself. If people are not able to put two and two together for themselves then they need to wait for the official announcement. I know what I have been told and its about as credible as it gets...CREDIBLE as it gets. I just find it funny all of these outside media sources keep citing utica...coincidence? Hardly. Lol. Yes the news sources in abbotsford...vancouver...peori a...Chicago...Calgary?? They just picked utica out of a hat...all of them! Lol
Two plus two equals IF ITS TRUE! THEN WHY ALL THE SECRECY?
Ans. It's NOT TRUE!!!
Stanwix Prison

Albany, NY

#10 Apr 1, 2013
prison ft clifton pk wrote:
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Two plus two equals IF ITS TRUE! THEN WHY ALL THE SECRECY?
Ans. It's NOT TRUE!!!
Please outline the secrecy? Some info was leaked that shouldn't have been. Again I ask what secrecy? It will be announced when it needs to be announced.
Cliffy Nostradumazzz

Gouverneur, NY

#11 Apr 2, 2013
Stanwix Prison wrote:
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What more proof would you like? I can't officially announce the team myself. If people are not able to put two and two together for themselves then they need to wait for the official announcement. I know what I have been told and its about as credible as it gets...CREDIBLE as it gets. I just find it funny all of these outside media sources keep citing utica...coincidence? Hardly. Lol. Yes the news sources in abbotsford...vancouver...peori a...Chicago...Calgary?? They just picked utica out of a hat...all of them! Lol
Youn haven't been "told" anything on this, you've read some articles over the last 3 months and taken a stand that it's gonna happen. Big f'ing deal Cliffy, but you're not "in the know" from some secret insider info. you're just a f'ing moron looking to feel like you know something for a change. It's been a pathetic display, started under your old and banned Utica34, of a loser grasping at straws to feel important. Now..........STFU.
Truth

Utica, NY

#12 Apr 2, 2013
KY WELLER wrote:
<quoted text> Where is the announcement? You have offered lots of rhetoric and rumors,but no proof.
There has been verification that talks have taken place. Everyone actually involved in those talks has repeatedly denied thet there is a deal in place.

If there is any kind of deal it is contingent on taxpayer funding of AUD upgrades necessary to accomodate an AHL team. Think about it. The New York State legislature just passed a budget that it seems no one is really satisfied with. It had cuts to things like aid to disabled children. At the local level(county, town, city) we are seeing higher taxes, job losses and cutbacks in public services. Does it really seem like the time for the public to fund an AHL team's move here? Any politician with half a brain realizes this and that it would be political suicide to even suggest it right now. That's why I think it will be Anthony Brindisi who will try to sell it.

If the Rob Esche syndicate had their own money to finanace this project they'd be on every news outlet trying to sell season tickets.
UticaHockey

United States

#13 Apr 2, 2013
One thing to keep in mind is that even if there is a deal signed, sealed and delivered they can't announce it until Calgary says they can. Obviously there are other teams that are also moving locations and there are still several weeks left in the season before the playoffs even start. That has to be taking into consideration beforr an announcement is made.
Truth

Utica, NY

#14 Apr 2, 2013
UticaHockey wrote:
One thing to keep in mind is that even if there is a deal signed, sealed and delivered they can't announce it until Calgary says they can. Obviously there are other teams that are also moving locations and there are still several weeks left in the season before the playoffs even start. That has to be taking into consideration beforr an announcement is made.
A more likely explanation is that the financing is not in place. Taxpayer financing. If Calgary already has a deal with Utica as you say, then why would they give a hoot about whether they sell tickets now or not especially in light of the fact that under the terms of the deal they have now the taxpayers of their current host city are on the hook for any operating losses. Your explanation doesn't track.

If there was a deal with Utica in place it only makes sense that we would be seeing a massive public relations blitz and a huge effort to sell season tickets.

If there is a prospective deal the holdup is on this end and has to do with tax dollars and public relations.
outline

Herkimer, NY

#15 Apr 2, 2013
Stanwix Prison wrote:
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Please outline the secrecy? Some info was leaked that shouldn't have been. Again I ask what secrecy? It will be announced when it needs to be announced.
Outline the secrecy? There has been not one word from a reliable source that Utica will have an AHL affiliate in place. THERE is the secrecy. The only statements made by officials have DENIED any existance of a deal.
sticks35

Hartford, CT

#16 Apr 2, 2013
my guess is the deal was made but was not announced for one reason and one reason only. so calgary could get the most money it can out of abbotford or vancouver or whom ever they can to leave that city and make room for vancouver to put a team in there. its all about the buck as always.........
Stanwix Prison

Albany, NY

#17 Apr 2, 2013
Cliffy Nostradumazzz wrote:
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Youn haven't been "told" anything on this, you've read some articles over the last 3 months and taken a stand that it's gonna happen. Big f'ing deal Cliffy, but you're not "in the know" from some secret insider info. you're just a f'ing moron looking to feel like you know something for a change. It's been a pathetic display, started under your old and banned Utica34, of a loser grasping at straws to feel important. Now..........STFU.
You couldn't be further from the truth whitesboro trash.
prison ft clifton pk

Herkimer, NY

#18 Apr 2, 2013
Stanwix Prison wrote:
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You couldn't be further from the truth whitesboro trash.
Secrecy. You are the only one who will be at the hockey games in your mind.
Stanwix Prison

Albany, NY

#19 Apr 2, 2013
prison ft clifton pk wrote:
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Secrecy. You are the only one who will be at the hockey games in your mind.
Whatever you want to believe. Doesn't change the fact.
ok then

Herkimer, NY

#20 Apr 2, 2013
Stanwix Prison wrote:
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Whatever you want to believe. Doesn't change the fact.
There are NO FACTS; just your rantings. LOL
Stanwix Prison

Albany, NY

#21 Apr 2, 2013
ok then wrote:
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There are NO FACTS; just your rantings. LOL
There are plenty of facts actually.

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