TV on bike handlebars leads to felony...

TV on bike handlebars leads to felony charges for Utica man

There are 76 comments on the WKTV story from Sep 18, 2013, titled TV on bike handlebars leads to felony charges for Utica man. In it, WKTV reports that:

A 24-year-old Utica man was arrested Tuesday after police spotted him riding a bike with a flat-screen TV propped on the handlebars, Utica police say.

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“Sup'”

Level 7

Since: Jan 13

New York, NY

#41 Sep 20, 2013
Where are you getting these facts from? You can't be detained for 24 hours for just looking or acting suspicious. For the matter of this case I'm sure he was stopped and admitted everything. Thus getting a free ride to jail.
In your last sentence you said he might of cooperated with police. Are you under this impression too? If you cooperate with police everything will go better?

Like I've mentioned before, do not ever talk to police if you are questioned for anything. That's means don't cooperate, don't tell them a thing. Invoke your right to remain silent and lawyer up. It can only help you in the long run.

Watch the video man. Seriously.
harken

Herkimer, NY

#42 Sep 20, 2013
Titanium22 wrote:
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Yes. Read the article again. The call came in AFTER the suspect was already at the police station. AFTER.
Try to follow along here.... let's assume the suspect didn't say anything at all to police. He verbally said he pleads the right to remain silent at the scene. On what grounds do they arrest him? Carrying a tv down the street?
You guys are quick to jump steps but I feel you are missing the entire point. You don't ever HAVE to speak to police and tell them anything other then your name in this situation. Of course being the idiot that the criminal is, he sung like a canary.
And to answer your question above, about how police are supposed to solve crimes. 95% of people give the police ALL the information they need. The point of the video is to NOT speak to police at all. Guilty or innocent. Ever. Let the police do their job to protect and serve.
Should we give up our guns as well? So when someone breaks into our home we'll just sit around for the police to show up?
Last I checked, NY isn't a police state. We do have rights. It's up to the individual to exercise them.
Heed this: When you are wrong, just admit it and move on to the next argument. You are mistaking detain and arrest. NEXT?
lol

Cadiz, KY

#43 Sep 20, 2013
Titanium22 wrote:
Where are you getting these facts from? You can't be detained for 24 hours for just looking or acting suspicious. For the matter of this case I'm sure he was stopped and admitted everything. Thus getting a free ride to jail.
In your last sentence you said he might of cooperated with police. Are you under this impression too? If you cooperate with police everything will go better?

Like I've mentioned before, do not ever talk to police if you are questioned for anything. That's means don't cooperate, don't tell them a thing. Invoke your right to remain silent and lawyer up. It can only help you in the long run.

Watch the video man. Seriously.
Are you a criminal yourself ? I have no reason to not talk to the police if they question me. As far as the 24 hrs detainment goes ... LEARN THE LAW! I have done enough research for you that you completely overlook.

“Sup'”

Level 7

Since: Jan 13

New York, NY

#44 Sep 20, 2013
harken wrote:
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Heed this: When you are wrong, just admit it and move on to the next argument. You are mistaking detain and arrest. NEXT?
Exactly where was I wrong? This isn't a case of right or wrong. It's about human rights and the ability to exercise them. People are obviously not aware of rights we have so it doesn't matter to them when they are violated.
Look at the guy posting below you. He's already convicted this guy and called him guilty without knowing 1/2 the story. Wouldn't want him sitting on a jury anytime soon.

“Sup'”

Level 7

Since: Jan 13

New York, NY

#45 Sep 20, 2013
lol wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you a criminal yourself ? I have no reason to not talk to the police if they question me. As far as the 24 hrs detainment goes ... LEARN THE LAW! I have done enough research for you that you completely overlook.
Can't help everyone I guess. You actually DO have reasons to not talk to police. The video is to help INNOCENT, law abiding citizens.
And show me a link where it says you can detain someone for 24 hours.
lol

Cadiz, KY

#46 Sep 20, 2013
Titanium22 wrote:
<quoted text>Can't help everyone I guess. You actually DO have reasons to not talk to police. The video is to help INNOCENT, law abiding citizens.
And show me a link where it says you can detain someone for 24 hours.
He wasn't an innocent law abiding citizen. So how is that video relevant? Do you honestly think that you are the first person in the history of the world to know that you have the right to remain silent? I'm not posting any links for you. If you are that interested in knowing the law, you will look it up.

“Sup'”

Level 7

Since: Jan 13

New York, NY

#47 Sep 20, 2013
lol wrote:
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He wasn't an innocent law abiding citizen. So how is that video relevant? Do you honestly think that you are the first person in the history of the world to know that you have the right to remain silent? I'm not posting any links for you. If you are that interested in knowing the law, you will look it up.
He wasn't innocent? What happened to innocent until proven guilty? It looks like you want to go from carrying a tv down the street to guilty and throw him in prison already. He's been arrested but has still not been proven guilty. And how did I know you wouldn't post a link? Because it doesn't exist.
Just to add, we all about the right to remain silent right? How come 95% of people arrested don't exercise that right? They all sing like canary's thinking it will "help them".
I just hope people don't go by your theory of looking suspicious, guilty and right to prison.
Now where's that link? That's right, you couldn't find anything. Because if you did I'm sure you'd post it up.
lol

Cadiz, KY

#49 Sep 20, 2013
Titanium22 wrote:
<quoted text>He wasn't innocent? What happened to innocent until proven guilty? It looks like you want to go from carrying a tv down the street to guilty and throw him in prison already. He's been arrested but has still not been proven guilty. And how did I know you wouldn't post a link? Because it doesn't exist.
Just to add, we all about the right to remain silent right? How come 95% of people arrested don't exercise that right? They all sing like canary's thinking it will "help them".
I just hope people don't go by your theory of looking suspicious, guilty and right to prison.
Now where's that link? That's right, you couldn't find anything. Because if you did I'm sure you'd post it up.
What happened to getting caught with your hands in the cookie jar?
Helping

Herkimer, NY

#50 Sep 20, 2013
Titanium22 wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly where was I wrong? This isn't a case of right or wrong. It's about human rights and the ability to exercise them. People are obviously not aware of rights we have so it doesn't matter to them when they are violated.
Look at the guy posting below you. He's already convicted this guy and called him guilty without knowing 1/2 the story. Wouldn't want him sitting on a jury anytime soon.
Exactly, you are WRONG to assume that the police cannot legally DETAIN any individual for questioning regarding a crime. That is what the police did.

“Sup'”

Level 7

Since: Jan 13

New York, NY

#51 Sep 20, 2013
Helping wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly, you are WRONG to assume that the police cannot legally DETAIN any individual for questioning regarding a crime. That is what the police did.
To be honest, this guy probably told the police everything they need to know right there on the street. He'll plead out to some stupid misdemeanor and serve 8 months in county jail. Unfortunately
lol

Cadiz, KY

#52 Sep 20, 2013
Titanium22 wrote:
<quoted text>To be honest, this guy probably told the police everything they need to know right there on the street. He'll plead out to some stupid misdemeanor and serve 8 months in county jail. Unfortunately
Did I clear up the detainment issue for you?

“Sup'”

Level 7

Since: Jan 13

New York, NY

#53 Sep 20, 2013
lol wrote:
<quoted text>
Did I clear up the detainment issue for you?
No. I Googled my brains outs and didn't find any 24 hour detainment law.
There is no possible way that you can be detained for 24 hours without being charged.
Lawyers are throwing a fit over a reporter being detained for 9 hours without charge at a NY airport.
lol

Cadiz, KY

#55 Sep 20, 2013
Titanium22 wrote:
<quoted text>No. I Googled my brains outs and didn't find any 24 hour detainment law.
There is no possible way that you can be detained for 24 hours without being charged.
Lawyers are throwing a fit over a reporter being detained for 9 hours without charge at a NY airport.
DUDE ... Did you not read the link I provided. I did your research for you. I was wrong, it wasn't 24hrs. It was 48hrs and in some states 72hrs. Read the link.
lol

Cadiz, KY

#56 Sep 20, 2013
Titanium22 wrote:
<quoted text>No. I Googled my brains outs and didn't find any 24 hour detainment law.
There is no possible way that you can be detained for 24 hours without being charged.
Lawyers are throwing a fit over a reporter being detained for 9 hours without charge at a NY airport.
The reporter was probably an innocent person too. Guilty people don't throw fits about being detained.

“Sup'”

Level 7

Since: Jan 13

New York, NY

#57 Sep 20, 2013
Um, what link???
lol

Cadiz, KY

#58 Sep 20, 2013
lol wrote:
<quoted text>I was wrong. I thought it was only 24hrs however in some states they have 48 and even 72hrs in others. Anything else that I can research for you?
http://www.google.com/url...
This link titanium.^^^^^

“Sup'”

Level 7

Since: Jan 13

New York, NY

#59 Sep 20, 2013
lol wrote:
<quoted text>
This link titanium.^^^^^
Ah okay. Good find.

Now watch that video when you get some free time.
lol

Cadiz, KY

#60 Sep 20, 2013
Titanium22 wrote:
<quoted text>Ah okay. Good find.

Now watch that video when you get some free time.
I'm well aware of my rights and what I should and shouldn't say to an officer if questioned. Thanks.
lol

Cadiz, KY

#61 Sep 20, 2013
Titanium22 wrote:
<quoted text>Ah okay. Good find.

Now watch that video when you get some free time.
Also, it wasn't a "find", I knew it was the law.

“Sup'”

Level 7

Since: Jan 13

New York, NY

#62 Sep 21, 2013
lol wrote:
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Also, it wasn't a "find", I knew it was the law.
Yeah, it really sounds like you do from the previous couples of pages. lol

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