Notre Dame HS Football
OK lets compare

New Hartford, NY

#175 Nov 13, 2011
Ernest Jones- Oregon all time sack leader, graduated.
Corey Mitchell- Umass, USFL graduated
Vincenzo Giruzzi - Syracuse Graduated, masters
Nick Santiago - Syracuse Graduated
Ricardo Giruzzi - Graduated, Northeastern
Joe Russo - Graduated, All League, Lafayette
Joe Manganelli - Graduated Cornell.
Clint Hammett - Graduated Wagner
Penny Semaia - Graduated Pitt.
Will Smith - Ohio State, Pro Bowl-Super Bowl, Graduated.
Dozens of other Division 3 Such as Evan Hughes, Mike Kupiec, Arnold Santiago, Jose Colon, Anthony Hobiaca, Jason Adams, Salatino, Scampone....Should I keep going?
OK lets move on to ND.
Division 1....ZERO
Divison 3....what 4 kids?
Lets Compare GPA's of the top 150 kids at Proctor and ND
Lets Compare SAT's of the top 150
Lets Compare selling prescription drugs in the lunchroom
Lets Compare taking student athletes that were inelligible at on school and the other school took them in to play for them.
football fan

Utica, NY

#176 Nov 14, 2011
OK lets compare wrote:
Ernest Jones- Oregon all time sack leader, graduated.
Corey Mitchell- Umass, USFL graduated
Vincenzo Giruzzi - Syracuse Graduated, masters
Nick Santiago - Syracuse Graduated
Ricardo Giruzzi - Graduated, Northeastern
Joe Russo - Graduated, All League, Lafayette
Joe Manganelli - Graduated Cornell.
Clint Hammett - Graduated Wagner
Penny Semaia - Graduated Pitt.
Will Smith - Ohio State, Pro Bowl-Super Bowl, Graduated.
Dozens of other Division 3 Such as Evan Hughes, Mike Kupiec, Arnold Santiago, Jose Colon, Anthony Hobiaca, Jason Adams, Salatino, Scampone....Should I keep going?
OK lets move on to ND.
Division 1....ZERO
Divison 3....what 4 kids?
Lets Compare GPA's of the top 150 kids at Proctor and ND
Lets Compare SAT's of the top 150
Lets Compare selling prescription drugs in the lunchroom
Lets Compare taking student athletes that were inelligible at on school and the other school took them in to play for them.
Fiorini did nothing for any of those kids either they were so talentd or there parents did the leg work to get them in college. With all those names were is the trip to the dome. Fiorini doesnt know enough about football to take this school to the dome. College coaches have no respect for him If he ever tried to call a school for a kid they know he doesnt no football or talent. How does his players and the basketball players allowed to play with the grades some of the kids have. How about helping these kids get there grades before they can play. This has been going on for years. Just get what you can from them for the season and watch them fail. This school is the biggest in sec 3 basketball ant baseball have won sec 3 titles. Football cant even make it to the dome. Get rid of fiorini and put someone there that could bring this school to the dome in football.
LOL

Utica, NY

#177 Nov 14, 2011
College smoke and mirrors....
Let me break it down for you UND clowns that think a HS coach can get a kid a D-1 Scholarship.
All HS coaches do is contact or reply to contact from the numerous College coaches that call on them every yr.
The college coaches evaluate the Video and academic transcript they have on the kid, then talk as a staff and then they make a decision based on their program needs.
A College coach makes a living doing this.... u think he is going to listen to some HS guy???
After the HS coach calls a college and shakes the college coaches hand when he comes to the school, the HS coaches job is done.
If u think for 1 minute that college coaches take into consideration what the HS coach says, u have zero clue.
HS coaches love their players and college coaches know this. They take the HS coaches eval with a grain of salt..... because they hear the same thing from every hs coach.... "great kid, great player"
If Byron Abraham opinion holds so much weight w college coaches and is so great at getting kids D-1 Scholarships, why have none of his players gotten a D-1 Scholly??? The Ruffrage kid was a great player and went to D3 Ithaca... was a great player there. Why no D-1 scholly out of Notre Dame??? Why didn't B.A. pull some magical strings for him???? I'll tell you why, HE JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER HS COACH WHEN IT COMES TO COLLEGE! No better, no worse!
Blind football fan

New Hartford, NY

#178 Nov 14, 2011
Biggest school in section 3, you are absolutely correct. Drive by Proctor at dismissal and look at the population. Hundreds of Asians,Bosnians,Somalians...No ne of which know what a football looks like. Why does basketball win? Because you only need 6 players and there are hundreds of inner-city kids that love Basketball. Maybe you need to go watch a AA football game and see the level of competition Proctor plays every week. Line up against Corcoran,Henninger,Baldwinsvil le,FM, West Genesee and see how easy it is. Get a clue football fan!!!! If Fiorini did nothing and the parents did the leg work, Why does ND have zero division 1 kids in the last 30 years? Are the ND parents lazy? Byron also is not liked by D1 coaches? Give me a reason or crawl back in your hole.
LOL

Cortland, NY

#179 Nov 15, 2011
When you say zero are you crazy? Here is two in the last three years Mike Galanese (Purdue university) and Pat Moore(Colgate)You act like D1 is the normal at Proctor! More people from Notre Dame go D1 just on grades year after year. Sprots are only a small piece of the puzzle bottom line ND is producing productive Uticans year after year!And if you think for one minuite that a call from a coach that played D1 football means nothing you are out of your mind. They know Byron knows what it takes to play on a college level peroid he has been there done that. Its call connections maybe Forini can call the Rome Sentinal lol for his players.
South Utican

Raleigh, NC

#181 Nov 15, 2011
LOL wrote:
When you say zero are you crazy? Here is two in the last three years Mike Galanese (Purdue university) and Pat Moore(Colgate)You act like D1 is the normal at Proctor! More people from Notre Dame go D1 just on grades year after year. Sprots are only a small piece of the puzzle bottom line ND is producing productive Uticans year after year!And if you think for one minuite that a call from a coach that played D1 football means nothing you are out of your mind. They know Byron knows what it takes to play on a college level peroid he has been there done that. Its call connections maybe Forini can call the Rome Sentinal lol for his players.
How about byron himself? Went to notre dame high shool, Then recriuted and went to Notre Dame college, transferred and finished his career at Syracuse, back in the early days rich griffth went to the University of Miami, his brother played at Penn St. What about Mark Lemke?
OH YA

Cortland, NY

#182 Nov 15, 2011
Keep them coming!
LOL

Cortland, NY

#183 Nov 15, 2011
I beleive ND also has the best basketball player currenty in our area as well playing over sea's for money I watched him break that Proctor team down in the King of Kings league this year! What about Steve Babiarz, Mike Owens played D1 baseball and is currently the head coach for D1 Lemoyne College could be wrong beleive thats his name, and I beleive there baseball coach Green played D1 and was drafted he also went to Nore Dame. Didnt Bob Cook also get drafted for pitching oh ya he went to Notre Dame as well!
Jimmy Cracked Corn

Rochester, NY

#184 Nov 15, 2011
How many kids at Proctor drop out? What percentage of incoming Freshmen end up graduating (if if it takes 5 yrs)?
Have to get GEDs in their 30's
End up taking college classes whle at Oneida Corr Fac., Attica, Dannemora, Elmira, Downstate?
South Utican

Raleigh, NC

#185 Nov 15, 2011
Notr Dame is a small school , just how many players out of Notre Dame do you think should be playing D1 ? Give me a break , they have had a lot of good atheletes over the years. Maybe not all d1 but good atheletes non the less.
LOL

Cortland, NY

#186 Nov 15, 2011
I think Dominica Reiana got D1 to ST. jOHNS FOR SOCCOR AND ALSO LETS NOT FORGET PENNYFEATHER ONLY THE BEST GIRLS BASKETBALL PLAYER EVER TO COME OUT OF OUR AREA NCAA D1 NUMBER ONE RATED ALL AMERICAN ALL FROM NOTRE DAME!
Blind football fan

New Hartford, NY

#187 Nov 15, 2011
I thought we were talking football? The thread is ND Football.. Now you bring basketball and soccer and kids going to D1 schools not playing any sports. Abraham and Griffiths were in the early 80's It is amazing how you can twist any comment. I know Mark Lemke went to ND. As far a ND being a small school, you are right but they get to recruit anyone in oneida county, you think they would get lucky once in the last 25years, Like I said in my first post ZERO division 1 football players in the last 25years. Yes some dropouts may continue their education at OCJ, Guess who teaches the classes there?? Leroy Witherspoon..HAHAHA. It is funny how Fiorini is getting bad mouthed and Abraham is the 2nd coming. Rudy got more playing time at ND. He was a great back up RB at Syracuse.
Brother Ben Dover

Watertown, NY

#188 Nov 15, 2011
How about all the great Altar Boys that come out of ND????
RECRUITING

Cortland, NY

#189 Nov 15, 2011
They dont have too the results are why people keep coming! Rumor has it there are four more coming the dagger is in and you haters can not stop it. Funny I think its the Proctor coaches are the ones who started this thread. Put your real names out there so we all can see
LOL

Utica, NY

#190 Nov 15, 2011
RECRUITING wrote:
They dont have too the results are why people keep coming! Rumor has it there are four more coming the dagger is in and you haters can not stop it. Funny I think its the Proctor coaches are the ones who started this thread. Put your real names out there so we all can see
You UND football guys are all jokers.... I love crushing you so bad you guys bring up Mark Lemke, Steve Babiarz, Byron, Griffith brothers etc.... those guys played sports at UND 25-30 yrs ago and some didn't even play football.
The bottom line:
This whole thing started with Byron Abraham, going over to 14 yr old kids houses, buying them and their parents lunch and talking up Notre Dame while down playing Proctors program. Then he starts going to the Bulldogs games and practices chatting up parents.
They also find special sponsors for these kids and they don't pay a dime. He denies all of this but it happened/happens. All illegal as far as the NYSPHAA is concerned.
Above, You brag about getting 4 more kids..... who cares. If those kids want to go play against Herkimer, Little Falls etc instead of Liverpool, Bville, FM, Corcoran, Henninger, West Genny, CBA go ahead. I would rather challenge myself against AA competition.

Notre Dame is a shadow of its former self.... It used to be the place to go.... If Notre Dame played in AA in everything I would say nothing but they play C/D and act like they are Don Bosco Prep.

hey there

Utica, NY

#191 Nov 15, 2011
who cares how many kids go d1...byron works hard with the kids...promises no one .. teaches kids how to be competitve players and graduate high school. Getting money to play D3 football is amazing...getting a great college degree is amazing. Proctor has fine athletes...3000 kids vs 200 at ND. I was at the so called byron speech..never once mentioned proctor hs or coming to nd...and by the way...i believe the pop warner team has 3 ND players...when did 7th and 8th grade kids become the property of proctor HS? Utica Notre Dame...last i checked section 3 classifies notre dame as a utica school...any kid in utica can attend ND with no transfer rule. Seems like byron is just doing what football coaches do...dont jerry talk to kids about someday playing for proctor??? Undue influence ??? last i checked byron cant admit or offer tuition assistence to any student...a student applies for admission and assistence. seems all this bickering is just that...there is no better or worse...soome parents feel ND is a good choice...key word...CHOICE. oh well ... thats my 2 cents
The showers the showers

Utica, NY

#192 Nov 15, 2011
And in the end they all became nothing. Menials, midlevels, or worse, COs, DPWs or living with mom or off the spouse. I know a bunch. Keep up the great work!
Division 1

United States

#193 Nov 15, 2011
Who has gone D1 last 2 years at proctor ?? Not 1. ND has 2 .. Gaglianese at purdue and pat moore Colgate. Football..zero D1. I can think of 14 D3 kids playing over last 5 years...more than proctor...thing is proctor has many kids that could play D3...just most of the kids have trouble opening a book and putting a few sentences together. imagine if proctor had the ND coaching staff .. Wow
Blind football fan

New Hartford, NY

#194 Nov 15, 2011
How would the ND staff coach all those guys that have trouble opening books? They would have to be pretty good coaches, but they put up 80yds passing against Herkimer, That was a great accomplishment!! I'm sure the college coaches will be impressed by that. LOL
Gone Fishing

New Hartford, NY

#195 Nov 15, 2011
True Freshman Brianna Kiesel (Utica/Proctor) scored 17pts tonight for Pitt. Is that D1?

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