Parkway speeders

Utica, NY

#1 Oct 4, 2013
The police have been all over the Parkway lately. They are catching all the speeders they can. So do 30 MPH and watch out!
LOL

Lynn, MA

#2 Oct 4, 2013
I am not going to allow Obama and his other big government nanny state cronies to tell me how to drive!

“I Make you wonder”

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#3 Oct 4, 2013
Illegal speed traps I think. They are using an unmarked Chevy 4 door that sits at the entrance of the golf course right past the Utica zoo. He checks speed then radio's to waiting police cars parked at the golf club a 1/4 mile down the road.
You could easily beat that ticket in court.
UTICAN

Newton Center, MA

#4 Oct 4, 2013
Titanium22 wrote:
Illegal speed traps I think. They are using an unmarked Chevy 4 door that sits at the entrance of the golf course right past the Utica zoo. He checks speed then radio's to waiting police cars parked at the golf club a 1/4 mile down the road.
You could easily beat that ticket in court.
it is legal

“I Make you wonder”

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#5 Oct 4, 2013
UTICAN wrote:
<quoted text> it is legal
Why? Because the police are doing it? Legal as in DUI checkpoints? Just because the police do something doesn't mean it can't be VERY easily beaten in court.
No not VERY easily

Herkimer, NY

#6 Oct 4, 2013
Titanium22 wrote:
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Why? Because the police are doing it? Legal as in DUI checkpoints? Just because the police do something doesn't mean it can't be VERY easily beaten in court.
Actually the way they do it is MORE difficult to beat in court. The officer is monitoring 2 lanes, both going the same way. He is close to the cars he is monitoring. It is a straight roadway and there are no obstructions in the immediate area or places for cars to turn off or around. What does that mean when you go to court? Your claims of 'It was the car next to me','How could he see my plate?','There was a tree blocking him','He was too far away to have gotten an accurate reading' or 'It was the guy who turned off right back there' won't fly in court. Aside from claiming equipment failure, lack of training/certification/calibra tion, all of which are rare, you are pretty much SOL. Any accredited law enforcement agency such as Utica will have equipment that works, that has been properly calibrated and is used by officers trained and certified to use whatever type of speed measurement device they employ. Nicely ask the prosecutor for a reduction, and take your lumps.

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#7 Oct 4, 2013
No not VERY easily wrote:
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Actually the way they do it is MORE difficult to beat in court. The officer is monitoring 2 lanes, both going the same way. He is close to the cars he is monitoring. It is a straight roadway and there are no obstructions in the immediate area or places for cars to turn off or around. What does that mean when you go to court? Your claims of 'It was the car next to me','How could he see my plate?','There was a tree blocking him','He was too far away to have gotten an accurate reading' or 'It was the guy who turned off right back there' won't fly in court. Aside from claiming equipment failure, lack of training/certification/calibra tion, all of which are rare, you are pretty much SOL. Any accredited law enforcement agency such as Utica will have equipment that works, that has been properly calibrated and is used by officers trained and certified to use whatever type of speed measurement device they employ. Nicely ask the prosecutor for a reduction, and take your lumps.
Excellent points. All of them. You forgot just one. Look into speed traps with unmarked police vehicles.
No not VERY easily

Herkimer, NY

#8 Oct 5, 2013
Titanium22 wrote:
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Excellent points. All of them. You forgot just one. Look into speed traps with unmarked police vehicles.
There are no NYS laws regulating use of unmarked vehicles for speed enforcement. There ARE agencies that regulate their use, such as the NYS Police. In their case unmarked cars are typically only operated by investigators who rarely stop cars anyway. If they do they are required to call for a marked vehicle to respond.
There are even exceptions to that rule as they have recently started using unmarked Tahoes on the thruway for traffic enforcement. A large number of smaller local municipalities use unmarked cars. They are no more effective for speed enforcement than a Sherman tank (who can't spot a so-called unmarked car!?) but they are cheaper to outfit. No bar light and no exterior markings equates to thousands in savings over a marked vehicle. There are often 'speed traps' where the 'spotter' officer isn't even in a car. They will stand next to the road, or on an overpass. Again, perfectly legal. Really, it's a game of cat and mouse. So there you have it. Hope that helps.
Here 24 7

Utica, NY

#9 Oct 5, 2013
My mom got pulled over on the parkway once
Wait

Utica, NY

#10 Oct 6, 2013
No not VERY easily wrote:
<quoted text>
There are no NYS laws regulating use of unmarked vehicles for speed enforcement. There ARE agencies that regulate their use, such as the NYS Police. In their case unmarked cars are typically only operated by investigators who rarely stop cars anyway. If they do they are required to call for a marked vehicle to respond.
There are even exceptions to that rule as they have recently started using unmarked Tahoes on the thruway for traffic enforcement. A large number of smaller local municipalities use unmarked cars. They are no more effective for speed enforcement than a Sherman tank (who can't spot a so-called unmarked car!?) but they are cheaper to outfit. No bar light and no exterior markings equates to thousands in savings over a marked vehicle. There are often 'speed traps' where the 'spotter' officer isn't even in a car. They will stand next to the road, or on an overpass. Again, perfectly legal. Really, it's a game of cat and mouse. So there you have it. Hope that helps.
That is not quite true. NY State Police are now using 2 unmarked SUVs. One is light brown. Don't know about the other.
hate getting caught

Utica, NY

#11 Oct 8, 2013
Every municipality in every state I have ever been in has unmarked cars. They are almost always the same type of cars that are used for marked patrol but without the giant signs on the side that say POLICE. usually easy to spot but you must always be looking. Most are used by non patrol officers,detectives and the ones that need to run to DD for donut fix. They could have a man stand behind a tree with a radar gun and a bicycle and it would be perfectly legal, the only illegal thing that I see happening is people driving faster than the posted limit.
Idiots

Utica, NY

#12 Oct 8, 2013
Its good they are doing it.. I used to live on the Parkway and moved because of the jack*@*@ speeders... People with kids live their so go 30 mph!
Parkway

Frankfort, NY

#13 Oct 8, 2013
Sure the police are out picking on speeders while all the dumba$$ goombahs, chinks and oldsters drive 25 in the passing lane
proctor radars

Utica, NY

#14 Oct 8, 2013
I bought a cheap 80 dollar radar detector and it has saved me many tickets. I havent had a speeding ticket in years and speed quite often (knock on wood). I know the cop is there before I even crest the hill on the parkway. There's a lot of false alarms on the parkway though, so keep it under 40 and ur chances of getting a ticket are slim. I try not to exceed 15 over the PSL..

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