Updated Public Safety Figures For Utica

Updated Public Safety Figures For Utica

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Since: Jun 08

Fishers, NY

#1 Jul 1, 2008
The figures so far this year, factoring in the fatal shooting over the weekend, stand at 11 unsolved shootings, 5 unsolved murders, and an arson rate still hovering above fifty percent.

Heckuva job, Mr. LaBella. Heckuva job.
Porky Pig

Guangzhou, China

#2 Jul 1, 2008
Hey uhh, take it easy dere. Imma juss tryin' to gets "speerience" so I culd take ova for Sherruff.
Union worker

United States

#3 Jul 1, 2008
To funny Porky, sad but true.
A Super Star

New York, NY

#4 Jul 1, 2008
GearOfZanzibar wrote:
The figures so far this year, factoring in the fatal shooting over the weekend, stand at 11 unsolved shootings, 5 unsolved murders, and an arson rate still hovering above fifty percent.
Heckuva job, Mr. LaBella. Heckuva job.
If you have any advice lets hear it. If you can do a better job show up at the station at 9:00am and solve all those cases Super Star / Arm Chair Cop want to be
Oh wait a sec you can only bang on usfrom behind your computer Right. Don't get involved let the other guy do attitude. That's It !!!!!

Since: Jun 08

Fishers, NY

#5 Jul 1, 2008
A Super Star wrote:
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If you have any advice lets hear it. If you can do a better job show up at the station at 9:00am and solve all those cases Super Star / Arm Chair Cop want to be
Oh wait a sec you can only bang on usfrom behind your computer Right. Don't get involved let the other guy do attitude. That's It !!!!!
Please don't set-up the "anti-cop" strawman. The level of violence in the city is climbing to record levels and a big reason for that is that the criminals KNOW THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH IT. I don't know if the problem is investigative technique, intelligence gathering, or community relations, but I think the sheer number of unsolved violent crimes show there is a problem.

Surely you're not suggesting otherwise?
Ill Explain

Utica, NY

#6 Jul 1, 2008
He seeks to distract your valid concerns using the age old method they have been using the last 10 years around here. Shoot the messenger. Don't DARE tell us we don't know a fucking thing!
No one said they have a "master paln" except Dave remember? You people are so arrogant and closed-minded. The proof is THE WAY YOU LET THINGS BECOME OH POLICE SPECIALIST.

We need honest good cops. If the PSC is the sludge at the bottom of the barrel and only owes his job to a scum mayor and congressman what do you think the level of LE effectiveness in this town is going to be?

People need to see that Our top law enforcement is a joke, and let me add to that our Criminal Courts and the DA's office.

If Mike Arcuri was such a tough anti-gang.... anti-arson prosecutor then why are we up to our necks in scumbags? HE'S A SELF SERVING FRAUD so everyone under him, and EVERYONE HE HELPS TO OFFICE has one thing in mind.... and that's NOT doing their fucking jobs!! This WHOLE place needs an enema from the TOP on down!

If these career "specialists" are so damn good then why are the figures SOARING?

AND YOU WOULD DARE BELITTLE SOMEONE WHO WOULD QUESTION THIS JOKE PSC? YOU are part of the sickness!
Backspace

Fayetteville, NY

#7 Jul 1, 2008
You sound so stupid..please keep the comments short..no one likes reading the long ones..BORING
Arthur

Nanchang, China

#8 Jul 1, 2008
No way! I love them!! Dead on!!
Sunshine

Fayetteville, NY

#9 Jul 1, 2008
YOU ARE PROBABLY SO BORING IN BED. People want short to the point comments. Not novels.
A Super Star

New York, NY

#10 Jul 1, 2008
Look I worked the streets of Utica Upper and Lower Cornhill and the West side. The crime has always been there, but in todays information age people are hearing more and more about it. Working the streets or investigating crimes is not like a TV show. If the Police had all the equipment and resourses that they have on these shows cities would go broke from the sheer expense
A Super Star

New York, NY

#11 Jul 1, 2008
Plyman did do some good things with the Dept, but he also did some bad, Point in question. Lots of Officer and Investigators with time and knowlegde were pushed out into retirement. Too many too fast is what is was. Yes the younger Officers can do the job and do it well, but the older crew had the contacts and experence that made them what they are and what they could do. Solve cases.
A Super Star

New York, NY

#12 Jul 1, 2008
In todays law enforcement world the days of breaking down doors and cracking heads is gone. People either respected you and feared you. Yes these had to be earned and they were a right of passage. Today Officers are young and learning. In time they will be at the top of thier game, but it would have been alot better if they had the older experence with them
A Super Star

New York, NY

#13 Jul 1, 2008
It doesn't matter what anyone thinks or says about Danny Labella. There are a great number of Officers that feel he is doing a super job as I feel he is. The Plyman era is gone but not with out a price and believe it or not things are better down there. Now with Williams & Bailey working side by side the Dept will mature and prosper. Yes crimes will be solved , but not over night as many would like to believe
A Super Star

New York, NY

#14 Jul 1, 2008
One other thing You folks need to start supporting us and all other Law enforcement agencies not only here but every where. Stop tearing us down every chance you get. Sure it sems funny posting stuff and bashing, but hey were only human and so are you, but we stand out either in the car and with the uniform, and everyone is watching to see what were going to do, and that is put our life on line every hour of the day to do our duty to the tax payers and other citzens of our community.

Since: Jun 08

Fishers, NY

#15 Jul 2, 2008
A Super Star wrote:
One other thing You folks need to start supporting us and all other Law enforcement agencies not only here but every where. Stop tearing us down every chance you get. Sure it sems funny posting stuff and bashing, but hey were only human and so are you, but we stand out either in the car and with the uniform, and everyone is watching to see what were going to do, and that is put our life on line every hour of the day to do our duty to the tax payers and other citzens of our community.
Blindly embracing law enforcement doesn't do them, or the public interest, any favors.

Look, I know cops don't have an easy job, especially in Utica. I'd go insane in a week if I had to deal with the level of human detritus law enforcement has to handle on a daily basis. That kind of experience, unfortunately, can lead to the "us versus them" attitude that gets displayed here all too regularly.

The simple fact is that crime levels in Utica are soaring to an unprecedented level and there's a growing perception that the most active criminal elements have absolutely nothing to fear from the police. There have been 12 shootings so far this year, one of them fatal, and so far not a single suspect is in custody. I'm sure the victims that caught a bullet aren't innocent little angels, but the idea that not a single witness will step forward because they're intimidated into silence is more than a little disturbing.
GoneFishing

Syracuse, NY

#16 Jul 2, 2008
A Super Star wrote:
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If you have any advice lets hear it. If you can do a better job show up at the station at 9:00am and solve all those cases Super Star / Arm Chair Cop want to be
Oh wait a sec you can only bang on usfrom behind your computer Right. Don't get involved let the other guy do attitude. That's It !!!!!
Amost anyone can do a better job. Your first lesson will be on common courtesy. Humility. Second lesson. You are a public SERVANT. You are paid to protect and serve the public. Therefore, when we call you don't act like we are bothering you. We pay YOU. Because you wear a uniform, you are no better than we are. You are not special because you have a badge or carry a gun. You are there to serve us. Until you understand this, you belong behind a desk. Third Lesson. Know the laws you are sworn to obey and apply them equality to all people giving no special considerations for the rich and powerful. That should be enough for the day. If you have any questions, you may post them here.
NAACP

United States

#17 Jul 2, 2008
GearOfZanzibar wrote:
The figures so far this year, factoring in the fatal shooting over the weekend, stand at 11 unsolved shootings, 5 unsolved murders, and an arson rate still hovering above fifty percent.
Heckuva job, Mr. LaBella. Heckuva job.
IM NOT A BIG FAN OF THIS ADMINASTRATION NOR DO I HAVE SPELL CHECK,BUT WHEN YOU PEOPLE GET SHOT BY YOUR PEOPLE. YOU CLAM UP. DONT WANT TO HELP IN THE INVESTAGATION.THEN BLAME THE POLICE FOR NOT DOING THEIR JOB!(WTF)BUT LET A COP PUSH A KID OUT OF THE ROAD AND YOU HAVE 78 WITNESSES LEON KOZIOL AND A LAWSUIT THAT WILL COST US CITY TAXPAYERS MORE MONEY,LET'S ALL WISE UP!!!!!!!!!!
Super Star

New York, NY

#18 Jul 2, 2008
GoneFishing wrote:
<quoted text>Amost anyone can do a better job. Your first lesson will be on common courtesy. Humility. Second lesson. You are a public SERVANT. You are paid to protect and serve the public. Therefore, when we call you don't act like we are bothering you. We pay YOU. Because you wear a uniform, you are no better than we are. You are not special because you have a badge or carry a gun. You are there to serve us. Until you understand this, you belong behind a desk. Third Lesson. Know the laws you are sworn to obey and apply them equality to all people giving no special considerations for the rich and powerful. That should be enough for the day. If you have any questions, you may post them here.
As I can you from your comments and suggestions you have a very closed mind and a 1 sided out look. A majority of Law Enforcement personal are caring and don't show the type attitude you have posted. You rank all for what 10% do. Which is not right, but what the heck right ? This is OK. Becuase this is granted to you by the laws and freedoms in the United States. I knew I wasn't going to please everyone with my posting as appearant from your postings. Either you have no clue in the world as we live for several reason. Too Much education and not living in reality for a few. It's simple for you to make observations and judgements from a computer where you are safe. That's fine, but and I say again but don't take a high and mightly stance on a subject that you appear to have no basic knowledge of at all. Don't blame all for the miss-givings of one
Super Star

New York, NY

#19 Jul 2, 2008
GearOfZanzibar wrote:
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Blindly embracing law enforcement doesn't do them, or the public interest, any favors.
Look, I know cops don't have an easy job, especially in Utica. I'd go insane in a week if I had to deal with the level of human detritus law enforcement has to handle on a daily basis. That kind of experience, unfortunately, can lead to the "us versus them" attitude that gets displayed here all too regularly.
The simple fact is that crime levels in Utica are soaring to an unprecedented level and there's a growing perception that the most active criminal elements have absolutely nothing to fear from the police. There have been 12 shootings so far this year, one of them fatal, and so far not a single suspect is in custody. I'm sure the victims that caught a bullet aren't innocent little angels, but the idea that not a single witness will step forward because they're intimidated into silence is more than a little disturbing.
I fully understand where you are coming from, but let me tell you this and you are not going to beleive me, but this type and the volume of crime in the City of Utica is no differant than it was 10 or 15 years ago. The reason for this is the freedom of information under Benny was not forth coming. Any shooting, stabbings, robberies and other violent crimes were not released to the news paper or TV news. There could have been 2 fires, 3 shooting, and a bunch of other things going on the standard comment from the stations to the news was " All's Quite ". Ask anyone you know who worked there and they will tell you this
Truth Be Told

New York, NY

#20 Jul 2, 2008
Super Star wrote:
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I fully understand where you are coming from, but let me tell you this and you are not going to beleive me, but this type and the volume of crime in the City of Utica is no differant than it was 10 or 15 years ago. The reason for this is the freedom of information under Benny was not forth coming. Any shooting, stabbings, robberies and other violent crimes were not released to the news paper or TV news. There could have been 2 fires, 3 shooting, and a bunch of other things going on the standard comment from the stations to the news was " All's Quite ". Ask anyone you know who worked there and they will tell you this
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