GoFuckYourself

United States

#44 Oct 11, 2013
No. People who see this ruse aren't just going to "shut up" loser.

Sematech - Another not for profit "consortium". Makes NOTHING. Has NO large number of employees.

Atotech - Minor player in the plating industry, nearly bankrupt according to Hoovers. NOT opening any physical facility at the school.

Tokyo Electron - Being sold to Applied Materials. Minor player, 3rd largest deposition application equipment. The junk Coby of the industry, NOT opening any physical facility at the school.

All another charade which won't be discovered until after re elections. You people are so angry and duped it's hilarious you keep falling for the same dubious claims. None of these companies state anywhere on their sites where THEY are hiring ANYONE or spending a dime except for
Advanced Nano and all they did was say "officials said 1000 new jobs".
Truth

Herkimer, NY

#45 Oct 11, 2013
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
you kant reed trooth
Bob,
There's a building going up right now on the SUNY IT campus. It's called the Chip Lab. It's being paid for by the taxpayers of the state of New York. Take a ride up there and you'll be able to see it. This most recent announcement is about possible tenants for that building and not the famed nano site. They are not the same thing. The two are completely different entites. You do know that don't you Bob?

From the SUNY IT campus take Technology Drive to the intersection of the former Edic Road or take River Road to the former Edic Road. I think it's now called Technology Parkway or something like that. Follow that road to the end. You'll find a driveway to a big empty field. It has a sign that says something about Nanotechnology. That is the famed nano technology site. It's still empty and there is still no enduser for the site other than the state taxpayer supported CNSE(SUNY). It just got a wetlands permit from the US Corps of Engineers making it shovel ready for the build out that the taxpayers of the State of New York are going to pay for in the hope that they can attract a manufacturer. You know - "Build it and they will come".

This isn't jealousy or envy or negativity. It's just facts.
Joker

Liverpool, NY

#46 Oct 11, 2013
Goofballs wrote:
<quoted text><quoted text>Well, considering you can't even afford the attention to detail required to differentiate your "your", "you're", we see who is joking. It's rather obvious nobody's paying you for your brains. I wouldn't.
No real answer here, just nonsense. You really do entertain me. Are you part of the grammar poLice? You're such a fkn loser! Is that better?
Speak 4 yourself

Buffalo, NY

#47 Oct 11, 2013
Joker wrote:
<quoted text>
No real answer here, just nonsense. You really do entertain me. Are you part of the grammar poLice? You're such a fkn loser! Is that better?
The guy gave far more info than you did. Who's the loser? You. Enjoy your fake nano factory that cost you idiots a million a job LMAO!
Wow

Herkimer, NY

#48 Oct 11, 2013
Gogreen wrote:
Everyone who is talking negaitively are clearly jealous that there is no announcement on 1000 to 1500 jobs planned for the futre. Even Bass pro shop employs 200 plus. You're clearly envious of the opportunity that is on the horizon.
If this were the 1850's, you would be in line, with your money out, to purchase a bottle of snake oil:)
Pataki announces

United States

#49 Oct 11, 2013
New York Governor George E. Pataki today announced that SUNY Institute of Technology (SUNY IT) just outside the City of Utica was selected as the site for a new state data center. The new data center will consolidate four existing centers under one roof to increase operational efficiency, meet growing information technology demands of state agencies and improve security of critical systems and citizen information. The governor was joined by various state officials including Dr. Michael Mittleman, New York State CIO.

This new state data center at SUNY IT will bring new 21st century high tech jobs to the Mohawk Valley and serve all citizens of New York State by ensuring the state has a reliable, secure, state-of-the-art facility," Governor Pataki said.

The New York State Office for Technology currently operates four data centers, serving 27 state agencies. The centers operate 24 hours a day, year round, supplying operational and technical expertise necessary to support computing needs of agencies. The data centers support critical initiatives for public health and welfare agencies, labor, public safety and homeland security, education, and tax and finance.

CIO Mittleman said, "Consolidating data centers is an industry best practice with proven results for enhancing security and reducing operational costs in both the public and private sectors. This new data center will continue the vision set out by Governor Pataki who has long promoted the use of information technology to enhance services for citizens through e-government. In a new consolidated data center we can better leverage our state's technology investments and provide higher quality computer services to state agencies, local governments and citizens in a more cost effective manner."

The State's data centers provide necessary information and services to administer essential citizen programs. Examples include initiatives such as the Child Abuse Registry, Child Health Plus, Counter-Terrorism Alert System, Driver's License Renewal and Vehicle Registration, Tuition Assistance Program, Welfare Management System, Teacher Certification, Home Energy Assistance Program (HEAP) and Worker Protection Systems.

On September 26, the State University of New York transferred 21 acres of real property located at the Institute of Technology at Utica/Rome to the New York State Office of General Services (OGS). OGS is currently performing site evaluations including geotechnical and environmental reviews as required by the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) to evaluate potential environmental impacts. Once completed, OGS will begin design schematics. Construction of the data center is anticipated to begin in the fall of 2007 and anticipated to be complete in March of 2010.

The new data center will have approximately 75,000 square feet of raised floor space and will be scalable to meet future computing demands. The new facility will be designed to provide redundant power feeds with back-up generators ensuring operation of the facility in the event of a power failure. The state will migrate as many of the existing computer systems as is feasible and will purchase new equipment only as necessary to make upgrades within the normal technology refresh cycle or to meet new demand.
No Surprise

Herkimer, NY

#50 Oct 11, 2013
naysayers shutup wrote:
This is wonderful news for this area. The community needs to join together and welcome this great news. If you're not on board, then shut up..
The carrot is always at least one election cycle into the future; but the announcement is always within weeks of an election:)

Romantic fiction is always enjoyed most by the downtrodden!
Utica Guy

Clockville, NY

#51 Oct 11, 2013
Da Law wrote:
There's a simple way to tell is this if actually going to happen- watch what the members of the Friends and Family plan do. After all, self-interest is the sincerest kind.
If they think 1500 high paying jobs are coming at the end of next year they'll do everything in their power to make as much money as possible off it. That means getting construction underway on multiple high-end apartment buildings and housing developments next spring. And that requires getting plans approved and permitted by the end of this year.
If the Usual Suspects start moving forward with those projects the Quad-C promises will actually come to fruition.
If they don't?
It's yet another scam in the proud tradition of the CyberSecurity Consortium, Griffiss Institute, and Photonics Center.
This is spot on.
Joe Schmoe

Utica, NY

#52 Oct 11, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
The carrot is always at least one election cycle into the future; but the announcement is always within weeks of an election:)
Romantic fiction is always enjoyed most by the downtrodden!
Ain't no election of consequence with this announcement around here. So, romantic fiction suits right now. If the gov were running 6 months or less from now, including for pres, then this would be legit.
Blue collar man

Rome, NY

#53 Oct 11, 2013
Goofball is at it again...jumping from thread to thread bashing Utica all while spouting off about his paid off 3 stall garage.
Duuuh

United States

#55 Oct 11, 2013
Joe Schmoe wrote:
<quoted text>
Ain't no election of consequence with this announcement around here. So, romantic fiction suits right now. If the gov were running 6 months or less from now, including for pres, then this would be legit.
Ummm fact is that the ethereal jobs aren't going to appear supposedly until 2014. Cuomo is running in 2014. Duuuuuuuuh.
Dan

Miami, FL

#56 Oct 11, 2013
Well the truth isn't easy for some crybabies to accept. Stick your head back in the sand if you don't like people talking about all the crap thats wrong with Utica. Staying in Utica won't get you a 1 stall paid off!
NiceTry

Carthage, NY

#57 Oct 11, 2013
LOL wrote:
Absolutely nothing will happen. The nano center will remain a dirt lot and Utica will remain dirt poor.
There is no way IBM or any business with half a brain would invest in a city full of uneducated ditch diggers.
Jealous much syracuse dint get this one?
its going to happen

Whitesboro, NY

#58 Oct 11, 2013
we are all going to be rich
lefty larry

Utica, NY

#59 Oct 11, 2013
Duuuh wrote:
<quoted text>Ummm fact is that the ethereal jobs aren't going to appear supposedly until 2014. Cuomo is running in 2014. Duuuuuuuuh.
Did he tell YOU he's running in 2014???
Buzzer

New Britain, CT

#60 Oct 11, 2013
Actually, it'll be much simpler.
Employees that are smart and "not from here" are probably used to driving an hour to work and back. They're probably used to their parents driving an hour to work and back. And they're probably used to having nice things in a 20-mile radius.

Conclusion? JUST LIKE GRIFFISS, all the employees will be moving to Syracuse. Manlius. Canastota. And anyone that buys a house in Utica/New Hartford? They'll be laughed at by their co-workers.

And like "Get Facts Straight" said... Oneida County is just a bunch of townies. High teen pregnancy rates, high STD rates, growing violence, etc etc... The professionals will leave the townies and most of their businesses alone. They'll poke their heads into Moe's or Olive Garden (after trying one of the many horrible or scary Italian restaurants here, they'll return to what they're familiar with) and keep their eyes on their job or their hometown in Onondaga.
Get Facts Straight wrote:
This is similar to Griffiss Base. I will tell you the future if this happens and I think it will.
1. Similar to Wal Mart, there will be jobs for the area people but with the education around here many will be paid minimum salaries.
2. The high paying jobs will be for people with an education and that means it will bring in people from outside the area, many people will move here to get those high paying jobs.
3. Marcy will break away and create their own High School in the years to come, bad news for Whitesboro and of course no good news for people in Utica looking for a high paying job.
4. The only good thing is that you may be able to sell your house in Marcy and Deerfield and in Utica close to SUNY for a high price!
5. Maybe creating a business up that way with food or any other cash business can help since the people coming in from other areas need to spend their cash.
6. It will boost the economy around here but will only be beneficial to those who have high paying jobs, everything else will be status quo! It will be harder for middle class to afford the area!
7. Its great for Politicians and they will all claim they had a piece in bringing the plant here, they can solidify their positions.
8. Your child will not be able to afford SUNY IT and the sports program will knock your kid off, the White Collar workers will get their kids into your childs position just like Rome did many years ago when they had they base open.
9. The plant will leave after ten years to move down south where they wont have to pay the taxes we will eventually ask of the plant!
Think outside of the box people, this benefits the Plant and a small portion of the area! Good luck getting a response to your application!!! Apply at Wal Mart, they will stay open and will offer you 13 bucks an hour!!! Again think outside the box, we are guaranteed nothing!!! Sorry but its the truth!
David Smith

New York, NY

#61 Oct 11, 2013
GoFuckYourself wrote:
No. People who see this ruse aren't just going to "shut up" loser.
Sematech - Another not for profit "consortium". Makes NOTHING. Has NO large number of employees.
Atotech - Minor player in the plating industry, nearly bankrupt according to Hoovers. NOT opening any physical facility at the school.
Tokyo Electron - Being sold to Applied Materials. Minor player, 3rd largest deposition application equipment. The junk Coby of the industry, NOT opening any physical facility at the school.
All another charade which won't be discovered until after re elections. You people are so angry and duped it's hilarious you keep falling for the same dubious claims. None of these companies state anywhere on their sites where THEY are hiring ANYONE or spending a dime except for
Advanced Nano and all they did was say "officials said 1000 new jobs".
Just for your information the current facility under construction will not produce products. It is only for research and development (R&D) and to develop new or improve upon existing processes. THe facility is being built and will start hiring in 2014....
Joker

Camillus, NY

#62 Oct 11, 2013
Speak 4 yourself wrote:
<quoted text>The guy gave far more info than you did. Who's the loser? You. Enjoy your fake nano factory that cost you idiots a million a job LMAO!
Sounds as if the two of you share that beautiful paid off trailer house together. Is it a double wide? Both of you are fkn clowns! I could give two shits about the nano factory, I just find it simply entertaining that some jerk off that tries to act above everyone only makes $145k (well that is the claim anyway). I almost feel sorry for the chump, acting all high and mighty but poor thing really isn't shit. Oh well it has been fun loser, thanks for the laughs.
Utican

Carthage, NY

#63 Oct 11, 2013
The reason why most of us are excited is because finallY this city will begin to get educated people moving here and needing homes and quality Condos to buy and/or rent. It will also be so nice to see educated people shopping in our Malls besides the current scum living off from whatever Welfare and Food Stamps give them.

Now we all understand why the "new" arterial is being built and the Wall being put in place closing West Utica and all the trash that lives there out of sight.

Now all they have to do is wall off Cornhill and this City can return to what it use to be 50 years ago.Hopefully, rents will increase beyond what Section 8 will pay and all the black New York City trash will leave.
Ex-Utica

Syracuse, NY

#64 Oct 11, 2013
I'm surprised that nobody has yet mentioned that, if this were to actually happen as presented by the politicians, this would still not increase the population or the number of jobs to pre 1990's levels. If you are old enough to remember, back around the mid 1980's we had a large number of high paying jobs from companies such as GE, Chicago Pneumatic, and a bunch of others. All these companies were gone by the mid 1990's. Even if we get the promised 1,000 jobs from the nano projects, it still will not come close to what we have lost. Remember that even back in the 1980's, when Utica had more good jobs, the area was still well behind almost every other place in income and quality of life issues. This nano plant won't result in many noticable changes.

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