Central Oneida County VOLUNTEER Ambul...

Central Oneida County VOLUNTEER Ambulance

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wow

Long Eddy, NY

#1 Apr 27, 2010
So how can a orginization call themselves volunteer if they pay employees and charge for there services and make a profit. They also go door to door for donations.
replace

Waterloo, Canada

#2 Apr 27, 2010
Its all about the money now days.
emt

Oneida, NY

#3 Apr 27, 2010
cause if they don't charge they would be outta business and then what would you do when you need a ride to the hospital.

If you want to fund them with all your money go ahead

Almost every volunteer ambulance charges now and by charging you get a paramedic or ALS service all the time.
hifool

Utica, NY

#4 Apr 27, 2010
If I needed a ride to the hospital I would call Edwards. Enuff said.
get it right

Tully, NY

#5 Apr 28, 2010
its ok if they want to make money but how do they consider themselves a volunteer company if they pay everone.
mike

New York, NY

#6 Apr 28, 2010
get it right wrote:
its ok if they want to make money but how do they consider themselves a volunteer company if they pay everone.
They dont pay everyone!They pay some emts,ALS,because people dont want to volunteer any more because of state training requirments take alot of time away from family,that is the problem fire depts. as well.
huff and puff

Oneida, NY

#7 Apr 28, 2010
get it right wrote:
its ok if they want to make money but how do they consider themselves a volunteer company if they pay everone.
who cares if the ride is cheaper than a brand name service and you get taken care of does it really matter. holy cow whats next wboro getting an ambulance to serve the public to make money to get them out of the crapper? i hear these guys are good who cares who is paid and who is not in their department. of course wboro could recondition an old ice cream truck and make an ambulance, they already have a driver.
but

Tully, NY

#8 Apr 28, 2010
they are allowed to apply for government grants that other non volunteer companies cant get. Maybe Kunkel and Edwards should say they are volunteer. Then they would make lots of money. No taxes to pay (volunteer exempt) and government grants plus fund drive donations. What a deal
huff and puff

Oneida, NY

#9 Apr 28, 2010
just made a call and found they are not all paid only a few. thats to insure they can respond if needed, volunteers are not always available. i was told it is manned by a combination of the two.
Vol Amb person

Newport, NY

#10 Apr 28, 2010
People should learn about something before spoutting off about it.A Volunteer Amb service charges the insurance company to recover funds.With those funds they are able to"sub contract" with a professional paid Amb servie ie Amcare,to hire a medic for hrs in which volunteers ar unavailabe.
Also,If you are a tax paying member of the comunity in which the ambulance takes you from,you are not required to pay the unpaid part that the ins. doesn't pick up.Call the president of the service and get your facts straight before you lable someone.
mike

New York, NY

#11 Apr 28, 2010
Vol Amb person wrote:
People should learn about something before spoutting off about it.A Volunteer Amb service charges the insurance company to recover funds.With those funds they are able to"sub contract" with a professional paid Amb servie ie Amcare,to hire a medic for hrs in which volunteers ar unavailabe.
Also,If you are a tax paying member of the comunity in which the ambulance takes you from,you are not required to pay the unpaid part that the ins. doesn't pick up.Call the president of the service and get your facts straight before you lable someone.
very well said..you cant fix stupid
sounds ike

Tully, NY

#12 Apr 28, 2010
So if a Volunteer Fire dept wants to start charging Insurance company to cover the costs of their shiney new trucks then its ok as long as you dont have to pay any of unpaid part of the bill
Metrogurl

Jamesville, NY

#13 Apr 28, 2010
Just seems all of a sudden COCVAC is doing alot more non emergency calls. What if i need a ambulance and all there ambulances are out doing non emergency calls. Who do i get to respond and how much longer will it take. Just so they hire more paid people and screw a real business that pays taxes and gives to the community and not takes. This should be looked into on a state level i think this violates the not for profit part of volunteer
wow

Moravia, NY

#14 Apr 28, 2010
thats what I'm talking about. for a company that started to help its community it is now trying to become a big business. And nothing says they wont start billing for the remaining balance on bills. cause its all about the money
Patient

Rome, NY

#15 May 7, 2010
Metrogurl wrote:
Just seems all of a sudden COCVAC is doing alot more non emergency calls. What if i need a ambulance and all there ambulances are out doing non emergency calls. Who do i get to respond and how much longer will it take. Just so they hire more paid people and screw a real business that pays taxes and gives to the community and not takes. This should be looked into on a state level i think this violates the not for profit part of volunteer
The reason youre seeing alot more P2 (non-emergency) calls could be because the state recently rezoned areas for edwards, kunkel, and cocvac. Cocvac assumed the Lutheran home which adds a tremendous amount of calls to them. Rest assured cocvac has 4 rigs and will get to you if something were to occur, if for some reason they are unable to mutual aid would send a rig from which ever zone you were closest to.
wow

Syracuse, NY

#16 May 7, 2010
And so they should not be considered a VOLUNTEER company. They are taking advantage of people who give them donations thinking they need it.
Patient

Rome, NY

#17 May 7, 2010
Not so, having a handful of paid personel is key to running any emergency company. Everyone has a life and work other responsibilities having a few paid members ensures coverage and a speedy response time in the case of a true emergency. Its the same for vol. fire dept. too.
what

New York, NY

#18 May 8, 2010
How many volunteer fire departments pay firefighters? Central Oneida County is really out there with spending money. They have a huge addition on there building. Kunkel doesn't spend money like that. I heard COCVAC has office space for their paramedics, and they hire EMT's too. It seems like a lot of spending for a place that's not very busy. WHERE does all that money come from?
Rampart

Oneida, NY

#19 May 8, 2010
Why not go up and ask them I am sure their explanation will shut your big hole.
Metrogurl

Morrisville, NY

#20 May 8, 2010
Just ask them how many full time and part time employees they have. I checked and the answer is alot. Almost as many as they have volunteers

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