Con Artist

Manlius, NY

#21 Jul 10, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>No, I do get it.
It's simple supply and demand. It seems to me that Jerry Kraus, by having a public meeting like he did, is trying to gauge the demand so that he might make informed decisions about how to market the Stanley to promoters. I know the Stanley doesn't book its' own shows and that they rely on outside promoters. I think that those who controlled the Stanley in the past were hesitant about allowing it to be used for certain types of entertainment. That was fine when they had a niche they filled but that's obviously no longer true. In order to survive they will need to diversify and reach out to a new audience and to promoters who may have been excluded in the past.
Contrary to what someone posted here, my memory is that Jerry Krause was very involved with concert promotions in his many years with WOUR dating back to the 1970's. Valuable experience if you are trying to drum up new business.
He was "very involved" indulging in massive amounts of cocaine and weed back then. That's as close to a "business meeting" that he had.
Otherwise this dunce was clueless. Perhaps if he whips out a bag of blow at the next "volunteers" meeting he can pretend its the 80s again and convince everyone he is still relevant.
Rocket Man

Utica, NY

#22 Jul 10, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>No, I do get it.
It's simple supply and demand. It seems to me that Jerry Kraus, by having a public meeting like he did, is trying to gauge the demand so that he might make informed decisions about how to market the Stanley to promoters. I know the Stanley doesn't book its' own shows and that they rely on outside promoters. I think that those who controlled the Stanley in the past were hesitant about allowing it to be used for certain types of entertainment. That was fine when they had a niche they filled but that's obviously no longer true. In order to survive they will need to diversify and reach out to a new audience and to promoters who may have been excluded in the past.
Contrary to what someone posted here, my memory is that Jerry Krause was very involved with concert promotions in his many years with WOUR dating back to the 1970's. Valuable experience if you are trying to drum up new business.
When an outside promoter books a show and rents the venue, they take all the financial risk so they make most of the profit if it does well. The Stanley only makes a relatively small amount in rental fees, not really enough to sustain the place for a whole season. I have never heard of anyone getting denied a rental because management didn't like a particular group. Heck, Faust was still manager when Ratdog last played there. As far as his public meeting/lame attempt at a focus group, that's not going to change much of what Munson or BTL books. And most of the other promoters big enough to bring in money making performers just aren't willing to risk it here.
judy

Utica, NY

#23 Jul 10, 2013
Con Artist wrote:
<quoted text>He was "very involved" indulging in massive amounts of cocaine and weed back then. That's as close to a "business meeting" that he had.
Otherwise this dunce was clueless. Perhaps if he whips out a bag of blow at the next "volunteers" meeting he can pretend its the 80s again and convince everyone he is still relevant.
"pretend its the 80s again and convince everyone he is still relevant" - Best "line" ever!
Gateway To The ADX LOL

Schenectady, NY

#24 Jul 10, 2013
CCP Is Trash wrote:
Why would anyone of significance book the Stanley? Seriously. It's a cookie cutter theater that every city along the rust belt has. It's not unique even though uticans have convinced themselves it is.
Here's a prime example. Same theater but twice as big. I just don't understand why uticans think they are so unique with what is there.
http://palacealbany.com/
But the Stanley is so unique? Lol

Just look at the events going on in the sh ithole of schenectady! Same type of theater by the way! Lol

http://www.schenectadytheater.com/theaters/pr...
Gateway To The ADX LOL

New Hartford, NY

#25 Jul 11, 2013
Gateway To The ADX LOL wrote:
<quoted text>
But the Stanley is so unique? Lol
Just look at the events going on in the sh ithole of schenectady! Same type of theater by the way! Lol
http://www.schenectadytheater.com/theaters/pr...
Thursday nights in the balcony ask for Cliffy...I'll slob that pooper clean for you.
Truth

Utica, NY

#26 Jul 11, 2013
Con Artist wrote:
<quoted text>
He was "very involved" indulging in massive amounts of cocaine and weed back then. That's as close to a "business meeting" that he had.
Otherwise this dunce was clueless. Perhaps if he whips out a bag of blow at the next "volunteers" meeting he can pretend its the 80s again and convince everyone he is still relevant.
He has a masters from SU. Hardly something one earns being an uninvolved doper. He's been on the Utica City Council, has been continually employed and has been active in a number of local causes. Again, hardly something one can reasonably expect from an uninvolved doper. You seem to have a personal problem with him that affects your judgment and your opinion.

It's the Stanley that is struggling to stay relevant and he's part of the latest attempt. Give him a chance. Time will tell if he can do anything.
real bands

Hendersonville, NC

#27 Jul 11, 2013
Thats all they need. I remember a damn yankees show and ted nugent also bad company .those were the days.probably one of the best shows ever and even got my first piece that night.
Con Artist

Syracuse, NY

#28 Jul 11, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>He has a masters from SU. Hardly something one earns being an uninvolved doper. He's been on the Utica City Council, has been continually employed and has been active in a number of local causes. Again, hardly something one can reasonably expect from an uninvolved doper. You seem to have a personal problem with him that affects your judgment and your opinion.

It's the Stanley that is struggling to stay relevant and he's part of the latest attempt. Give him a chance. Time will tell if he can do anything.
He's a has been hack DJ who served one term and then got booted by the voters. The last time Jerry mattered big hair was in and Reagan was President!
Gateway To The ADX LOL

Schenectady, NY

#29 Jul 11, 2013
So unique! Lol
Typical

East Granby, CT

#30 Jul 12, 2013
Truth are YOU Jerry? Seems like ya know an awful lot about the guy. Or should he be worried about a potential stalker? Haha
Truth

Utica, NY

#31 Jul 12, 2013
Typical wrote:
Truth are YOU Jerry? Seems like ya know an awful lot about the guy. Or should he be worried about a potential stalker? Haha
No and I'm not sure I would know him if I saw him on the street to be honest. I've lived here on and off for many years and used to be a WOUR listener so I obviously know who he is.

Maybe the person posting all of the negative things about him knows him better than just the public persona(like I do) and they are right about his abilities. I don't know the answer to that. I just think that he deserves a chance. The Stanley hasn't done well in recent years and he may be what they need. Time will tell. Do you have a better idea?

When all of the hoopla around what Frank Elias said about the veteran's food pantry was going on I stood up for him because I thought his words were taken out of context and he wasn't getting a fair shake. Someone accused me of being Frank Elias just like now you are asking if I'm Jerry Krause.

I'm from this area and want things to get better. That's why I comment when I think something is wrong or when I think someone is being unduly ridiculed. Give the guy a chance.
Yesman

Utica, NY

#32 Jul 15, 2013
Instead of sitting at your computers being negative about the Stanley. Try thining of ways to benefit the stanley.
Truth

Utica, NY

#33 Jul 16, 2013
Yesman wrote:
Instead of sitting at your computers being negative about the Stanley. Try thining of ways to benefit the stanley.
Was the Stanley thinking of us when they took millions of taxpayer dollars and expanded the backstage area for the comfort and convenience of everyone but the patrons? They did nothing to expand seating that would probably have led to lower ticket prices or anything to alleviate the terrible parking situation. Bigger shows come with bigger price tags. It shouldn't take a genius to figure out that without expanding seating, a bigger show is going to cost more per seat.

As always in this area, a few well connected people were thinking only of themselves I think. Given these facts, I think it's the Stanley that should be thinking about how to better benefit the community that supports them.
parking

New Britain, CT

#34 Jul 16, 2013
There is plenty of parking in the big city parking lot 50 feet away from the entrance
dan

Utica, NY

#35 Jul 16, 2013
Who are any of you "concerned citizens" kidding? The last time you went to the Stanley was probably 20 years ago. Get jobs.
Truth

Utica, NY

#36 Jul 16, 2013
parking wrote:
There is plenty of parking in the big city parking lot 50 feet away from the entrance
I guess you've never been to a full capacity performance and had to walk up the hill from the parking lot behind the bank across the street. The adjacent city lot does not provide nearly enough parking for capacity or near capacity performances.
ITEA

Utica, NY

#37 Jul 16, 2013
Monica was a plus to the place. She was the ONLY person qualified with the theatrical skills and experience the Stanley needed. She lined up shows and did a damn good job until someone ran her off with his dictatorship. Try and dictate me Jerry...Queer
freebs

Utica, NY

#38 Jul 16, 2013
that monica person was a plus to the place? please... just one meeting with her and it was pretty clear she had no idea what she was doing.

looks like she worked the same "magic" on the board of directors as she did on ITEA, there.
Truth

Utica, NY

#39 Jul 16, 2013
ITEA wrote:
Monica was a plus to the place. She was the ONLY person qualified with the theatrical skills and experience the Stanley needed. She lined up shows and did a damn good job until someone ran her off with his dictatorship. Try and dictate me Jerry...Queer
I don't know anything at all about the employees or the inner workings of the Stanley. All I know comes from media reports I've read over the past few years.

From what I've read the Stanley was not hitting revenue projections and as a result has cut staff. My question is simple. If the employees of the Stanley (like Monica in this thread) were so valuable and so good at their jobs then why has the Stanley been failing?
Dave

Utica, NY

#40 Jul 16, 2013
Maybe Jerry should hook up with Blaine for a couple shows! I hear he's a great promoter!

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