Scent of a Woman....

New York, NY

#104 Jun 27, 2012
X-Pat wrote:
Does any one really know who burned down Portofino/Trinkaus Manor. The statute of limitations was up a couple years ago, It never made any sense that the people running would have done it since their Fire Insurance was not paid up....
who really cares that was 20 years ago get over with it
Rocco

Liverpool, NY

#105 Jun 27, 2012
I think it was burned down by some East Utica mobster wanna-be with a match.
vin

United States

#106 Jun 28, 2012
This is what i will never understand. If i set my house on fire they come in a charge me with arson and i have to prove my inocence beyond a doubt which in this county. Means i go to jail if i dont plea to a lesser jail cgarge. But if i am a businessman. I can burn my place and the law doesent find enough proof against me or its for renovation expense at the insurance or taxpayers gift.
bidness man

Utica, NY

#107 Jun 28, 2012
Whitey calls it jewish lightening
Old Timer

Dover, DE

#108 Jun 28, 2012
My wife, and the kids enjoyed the decorations every year. It's a shame that its gone.
yankks

Utica, NY

#109 Jul 3, 2012
Its a shame we lost this landmark I remember going there as a kid and my parents both working there many people in the village worked there it was a busy place around the holidays
village1

Leominster, MA

#110 Jul 12, 2012
x-mas wrote:
does anybody know or remember my great grandfather
i remember him. my mom was good friends with him. had an awsome train set!
x-mas

Rome, NY

#111 Aug 4, 2012
village1 wrote:
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i remember him. my mom was good friends with him. had an awsome train set!
whats your moms name i might know her
x-mas

Rome, NY

#112 Aug 4, 2012
my george keniston was at the manor a week before the fire and hooked up the fire alarms and sprinkler system and it was proven that it was un-hooked when the fire happened
coverups

Brooklyn, NY

#113 Aug 4, 2012
sherwood boehlert used to have his parties there and then afterwards he would have hookers in the motel room waiting for him that good ol andy setup for him...the truth people, a few of the women still live in oriskany and could tell you the truth about it all

Level 1

Since: Jun 11

Syracuse, NY

#114 Aug 8, 2012
coverups wrote:
sherwood boehlert used to have his parties there and then afterwards he would have hookers in the motel room waiting for him that good ol andy setup for him...the truth people, a few of the women still live in oriskany and could tell you the truth about it all
Nice try......

Level 1

Since: Jun 11

Syracuse, NY

#115 Aug 8, 2012
x-mas wrote:
my george keniston was at the manor a week before the fire and hooked up the fire alarms and sprinkler system and it was proven that it was un-hooked when the fire happened
I believe the other times the jerks tried to burn the Manor, they failed because they forgot to turn off the sprinklers.
x-mas

Bridgeport, NY

#116 Aug 9, 2012
Utica Mailman wrote:
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I believe the other times the jerks tried to burn the Manor, they failed because they forgot to turn off the sprinklers.
i can agree with that that makes alot of sence
Steph

Buffalo, NY

#117 Sep 29, 2012
[QUOTE who="Scent of a Woman...."]<quoted text>
who really cares that was 20 years ago get over with it
[/QUOTE]
Apparently quite few. The children who were taken there for Christmas & other wonderful family celebrations have grown up & now want to know what happened to their happy memory. The evil act of burning it down has soured the happy memories of thousands & thousands of people and fills them with anger.
wondering

Monson, MA

#118 Dec 23, 2012
Is this property for sale? I might be interested in rebuilding the Manor.

Level 4

Since: Feb 13

Schenectady, NY

#119 Feb 16, 2013
What a great place this was during Christmas.
Bucked Again

Syracuse, NY

#120 Feb 16, 2013
wondering wrote:
Is this property for sale? I might be interested in rebuilding the Manor.
The People who own Buck Apartments bought it, they have remodeled the Motel into apartments.
They apparently plan to build 2 more buildings on the property.
Maureen dorrian

Utica, NY

#121 Jun 12, 2013
Utican wrote:
Genaro did not own Trinkaus Manor/ Portofino. Sid Genis bought the property from the bank, who forced the Trinkaus's to sell. They had run the buisness into the ground and were DEEP in debt. Sid Genis leased the restaurant to the owners of Casa Imports. The Cosimento's and John Fornino.
first of all Sid genius cost mentors fornino all owned Trinkaus Manor. The Trinkaus family held the 2 Nd mortgage and bank of Utica had the first mortgage. Casa Imports is i part of this mix. What happened is that they let the original ins lapse. They got new insurance BUT did not have the bank or the Trinkaus family as first beneficiary. It took over 7 years and lots of lawyers fees to the bank and Trinkaus get what was owed them. I truly believe that this was all mafia related and Sid genius was one of the biggest crooks in Utica and Casa imports to,this day mafia and you can't tell me different.
Maureen dorrian

Utica, NY

#122 Jun 12, 2013
bob wrote:
casa imports torched it
you are totally wrong on your thinking about who got the insurance money. Bank of Utica got first tabs Trinkaus family got second taps and those crooks who bought it got quite a bit of money. Casa imports gennaro Sid genius all those crooks.
Sorry for your loss

Utica, NY

#123 Jun 12, 2013
Let's get real, Regardless of what happened AFTER The Trinkaus' sold "The Manor" those who worked there know the Reality of the situation. We saw the Family as they siphoned the life blood from that Glorious Institution.
I'm sure there are many "family businesses" that have gone down that same road...but for those who were most responsible for the Downfall of the Original "Trinkaus Manor" to try blaming the subsequent operators of the property of malfeasance is at least hypocritical and at worst projectionist.

I lived in Oriskany during and after the "hay day" and every day as I drove by the Marquee on my way to work, I thought "Why are they doing NOTHING" to save this Amazing Landmark?......
No Promotions....No Specials....No Nothing!

And then when the Bank finally told them "You are Done!"
They all sat back and waited for the day they could say "See those dirty guineas couldn't make it work either"

I think that's the saddest part of this story.
Not that it burned down....Not that it's gone....That the TRINKAUS'S never took responsibility for losing the only thing Oriskany had going for it.

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