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tim lenardon riggies

Schenectady, NY

#24 Apr 11, 2014
aSKing wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would the Flames want to ditch an agreement with Abbotsford that guarantees them at least break even? That would be stupid. The original contract with Abbotsford is 10 years with a provision for reviewing it after 5. At that time any changes to the original agreement must be approved by both sides. Again, why would Calgary want a change to a contract that has been so lucrative for them. No doubt Vancouver wants in at Abbotsford. They have a fan base there and it's much closer but they can't get in unless Calgary leaves.
The only way this makes sense is if Vancouver ownership pays off Calgary and pays for moving the Heat to another city.
i doubt either team moves. vancouver has enough issues with therir own team and the flames want to be in utica, not glens falls.
jim dowd riggies

Schenectady, NY

#25 Apr 11, 2014
the city of abbotsford has said ending the agreement with the flames is not an option, which pretty much means the flames have the city of abbotsford by the short hairs!!!!! i do however feel that down the road another 5 years that the canucks and flames will switch cities......
reg dunlop

Ithaca, NY

#26 Apr 11, 2014
I also will be renewing my tixs for next year and I don't care what team plays here! still will be the comets just different colors maybe.
Fort Stanwix Riggies

Schwenksville, PA

#27 Apr 11, 2014
Revisit these threads in June.
Rashy Dave

Gouverneur, NY

#28 Apr 11, 2014
Dave Smith, know nothing hockey insider wannabe was sleeping it off all day and is back on the sauce!
Tom mcvie riggies

Schenectady, NY

#29 Apr 11, 2014
Fort Stanwix Riggies wrote:
Revisit these threads in June.
Get a job yesterday..........
Fort Stanwix Riggies

Schwenksville, PA

#30 Apr 11, 2014
It will be interesting in June what the reaction will be here.
upstater

Carthage, NY

#31 Apr 11, 2014
The Comets have proven that the AHL is viable in Utica with 16 sell-outs and an average of over 3,400 fans per game. Corporate support and advertising revenue are amazing for such a small area. If the Aud had a capacity of more than 3,815-- average attendance might be around 4,500. They are close to 90% capacity for the season. I know this will lead to several comments about empty seats during sell-outs, but keep in mind that some of those empty seats belong to people who are in the pub downstairs or in the Horton Room. As far as getting the Flames to come here if Vancouver leaves in a couple of years, the Comets could have many options that are better in terms of geography and fan interest. One might be the Rangers affiliate in Hartford that is not drawing well for a market that size. The only negative for the AHL in terms of Utica is building capacity. If the Comets sold-out every game, they would still rank 26th in the league in attendance. The mid-week games do not draw well in any AHL city, but most can overcome them with a couple large crowds. Sadly, Utica's maximum is always 3,815 so a few crowds of 2,000-2,500 really hurt your overall average and give the impression to people not familiar with the Aud's capacity that the team is not drawing well when in fact they are drawing very well and could draw better if they had the room. Is there any way to expand the Aud with that roof structure?
Fort Stanwix Riggies

Schwenksville, PA

#32 Apr 11, 2014
upstater wrote:
The Comets have proven that the AHL is viable in Utica with 16 sell-outs and an average of over 3,400 fans per game. Corporate support and advertising revenue are amazing for such a small area. If the Aud had a capacity of more than 3,815-- average attendance might be around 4,500. They are close to 90% capacity for the season. I know this will lead to several comments about empty seats during sell-outs, but keep in mind that some of those empty seats belong to people who are in the pub downstairs or in the Horton Room. As far as getting the Flames to come here if Vancouver leaves in a couple of years, the Comets could have many options that are better in terms of geography and fan interest. One might be the Rangers affiliate in Hartford that is not drawing well for a market that size. The only negative for the AHL in terms of Utica is building capacity. If the Comets sold-out every game, they would still rank 26th in the league in attendance. The mid-week games do not draw well in any AHL city, but most can overcome them with a couple large crowds. Sadly, Utica's maximum is always 3,815 so a few crowds of 2,000-2,500 really hurt your overall average and give the impression to people not familiar with the Aud's capacity that the team is not drawing well when in fact they are drawing very well and could draw better if they had the room. Is there any way to expand the Aud with that roof structure?
So let's see. If the building was bigger the crowds would magically get bigger? Really? How does that work? And if you think the parent club gives a crap about attendance you're wrong. Just look east to Albany. Bigger building, quadruple in size to the aud, better facilities for the team and patrons...and no one gives a crap. It's minor league hockey.

I still don't understand your logic about the size of the aud keeping the numbers down. I still don't understand how you think the advertising revenue is earth shattering.
Comets fan

Ithaca, NY

#34 Apr 11, 2014
I wish they could do what syracuse does and put seats in the stage area. Could add a few hundred more
Fort Stanwix Riggies

Schwenksville, PA

#35 Apr 11, 2014
alan hepple riggies wrote:
<quoted text>. I talked with some of the comets managment about putting more seats in the auditorium. Their response was that they don't need any more seats. They are making money as it is now. They said the key for them was the fact that they control all to do with the auditorium. This way they control all costs and expenses, and they are viable as is!! It also means they control food and beer prices and can make the games affordable which helps draw fans in.
What does any of this have to do with the Canucks? Absolutely nothing.
Brindisis Corrupt Riggies

Philadelphia, PA

#37 Apr 12, 2014
alan hepple riggies wrote:
<quoted text>. When are you going to get a job??????
I have one. What's your excuse? Keep citing all of these "opinion facts" about the comets and it doesn't change reality. Aquilini does not want to be in Utica. It was the alternative to four other confirmed alternatives. See you in June.
Rashy Dave

Gouverneur, NY

#38 Apr 12, 2014
Brindisis Corrupt Riggies wrote:
<quoted text>
I have one. What's your excuse? Keep citing all of these "opinion facts" about the comets and it doesn't change reality. Aquilini does not want to be in Utica. It was the alternative to four other confirmed alternatives. See you in June.
Rashy Dave Smith, whose father was a good local hockey man, has a job that allows him to drink and post all night and sleep all day! He was a disappointment to his dad and knows sh!t about hockey. Sad really that Little Davey never got the attention RJ did because Little Davey was born an obnoxious loser!!
Gold Dome Bank Riggies

Norristown, PA

#41 Apr 12, 2014
alan hepple riggies wrote:
<quoted text> its not Aquilini's decision to make. They can't go yo abbotdford till the flames leave. And the flames have no reason to leave. The city already said that ending the contract is not a option. We are back to that common sense issue you suffer from. The canucks already have to cough up millions for firing gillies and torts is next. Your clueless....... And on top of all that Trevor Linden is making all hockey decisions not Aquilini.
Wait. I thought you said the flames want to go to utica like they tried to last year? Hmm...what story are you Uticans going with? See you in June.

And by the way it is aquilinis decision to make. He's in discussions to buy the arena in abbottsford. That's a known fact.
playoff hopes

Utica, NY

#42 Apr 12, 2014
Comets won last night, still alive in the playoffs ! Playing in Glens falls Sunday,gotta with there. Next home games:Wed.,Fri.,Sat. Let's keep it going Comets !
Gold Dome Bank Riggies

Norristown, PA

#44 Apr 12, 2014
comet doughboy wrote:
<quoted text> they do want to go to utica. Just like the canucks eventually want abbotsford. But neither is gonna happen.
See you in June.
upstater

Carthage, NY

#45 Apr 12, 2014
Fort Stanwix Riggies wrote:
<quoted text>
So let's see. If the building was bigger the crowds would magically get bigger? Really? How does that work? And if you think the parent club gives a crap about attendance you're wrong. Just look east to Albany. Bigger building, quadruple in size to the aud, better facilities for the team and patrons...and no one gives a crap. It's minor league hockey.
I still don't understand your logic about the size of the aud keeping the numbers down. I still don't understand how you think the advertising revenue is earth shattering.
If they have sold out 16 times this season, it is pretty safe to assume that people were turned away for tickets and with a bigger building some of those crowds may have been well over 4,000. For example, they could have drawn a lot more people opening night, the two games against Adirondack that were sold out well in advance, the second home against the Crunch when they turned away many people. It is not that hard to understand. Do you think the demand for tickets for the games that sold-out was exactly 3,815 people? As far as advertising goes, every stair, hanging banner, dasher board, power play, penalty kill, in-game promotion, and video board spot is sold. Have you been to the arena?
No one important

Rome, NY

#47 Apr 12, 2014
Brindisis Corrupt Riggies wrote:
<quoted text>
I have one. What's your excuse? Keep citing all of these "opinion facts" about the comets and it doesn't change reality. Aquilini does not want to be in Utica. It was the alternative to four other confirmed alternatives. See you in June.
I love how you speak of Mr Aquilini like he's a personal friend of yours. You're always saying that he doesn't care about money, it's his ego that he takes care of. Give it a break! You've never met him nor will you ever. Just because you read a few stories doesn't make you his new best friend.

Here's another thing...successful people don't like to lose money. I'm sorry but they don't. Hang out with a few and you'll see what I mean.
Bye Bye Comets Riggies

Marshfield, MA

#49 Apr 12, 2014
No one important wrote:
<quoted text>
I love how you speak of Mr Aquilini like he's a personal friend of yours. You're always saying that he doesn't care about money, it's his ego that he takes care of. Give it a break! You've never met him nor will you ever. Just because you read a few stories doesn't make you his new best friend.
Here's another thing...successful people don't like to lose money. I'm sorry but they don't. Hang out with a few and you'll see what I mean.
Why does everyone assume he's losing money by making this deal? Please elaborate.
Bye Bye Comets Riggies

Marshfield, MA

#53 Apr 13, 2014
comets uc wrote:
<quoted text> well let's see...... They will need to buy out the rest of the comets contract so there's a million Bucks. Then they need to buy out the remaining yes of the heat and pay them to move. So there's another 1.5 million x 5 years. Then the canucks have to start up operations in abbotsford, all new stationary, business cards, season ticket promotions, new uniforms andclothing for players and staff.......so they would spend around 9 million to move, or they can wait five years and spend under a million to move. Good lord you are clueless..........
Aqulini wants the arena. He wants his own team and that's why he bought a team. When he moves HIS team to abbottsford he will receive ALL of the profits not split them with franchises like the comets so there's already a boost in profits. A Canucks farm team will flourish in Canuck land. Not only that but rumor has it since the Canucks sell over capacity for their games and there's a waiting list for season tickets he will bundle required ticket purchases for the team in abbottsford for future Canucks ticket packages. You are CLUELESS!!!

You come up with these big figures like "losing 9 million"...such bs. When he puts that team in abbottsford next season just through required ticket sales from the Canuck faithful he'll make that back in a year. This is why you people are stuck in central New York. You really can't see the big picture.

How do you not see this? Seriously? Have you even done any reading on this subject? Do you think because the aud has a fresh coat of paint it's a major player and venue? It was an alternative.

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