0D 'welfare' story. god help us
A taxpayer

Syracuse, NY

#48 Feb 11, 2013
Bodhisatva wrote:
As the Middle Class shrinks, and those above and below there expand exponentially, you fools fiddle as Rome Burns. You are all being played, and you think you are so fu**ing smart blaming the poor.
Rich People Pay Fox People to convince Middle Class People to blame Poor People.
Very Christian.
Asking God for help, to start a thread to condemn your fellow Man....Typical Right Wing Hypocrites.
Christianity is based on the principle of free will and individual reaponsibility to Christ, oneself and one's community. It is also based on adherence to the Ten Commandments and the excercise of restraint of conduct. The Bible nor Christ said a word about government welfare.
who cares

Utica, NY

#49 Feb 11, 2013
Sanjez wrote:
<quoted text>
But I is human just like you. You are no better then me. Thank you for going to work so I don't have to.
There is a BIG difference!!!!

This poster has self respect and is supporting himself/herself

YOU are nothing but a parasite sucking off others to live.
The Man

Rome, NY

#50 Feb 11, 2013
Bodhisatva wrote:
I always enjoy the schizophrenic behavior of the "Christians" in this "supposedly" Christian Nation.
I suggest a quick perusal of the New Testament, Jesus clearly states, we are not only required to except and help the least among us, we must forgive their most egregious behavior above all else.
Isn't True Christianity a Bitch?
It's accept, not except. Try reading the dictionary rather than the bible.
who cares

Utica, NY

#51 Feb 11, 2013
Ben Gleck wrote:
Obama is driving the middle class down into the welfare status. Soon their will be two classes the rich and the poor. The rich leftist elite have used welfare to hold down the poor and destroy the economy. The welfare leech is too stupid to see he or she has been use and fooled into perpetual poverty. Soon the leftist elite will reach down into the bowels of poverty and make you leech idiots their slaves.
This is exactly what destroyed the Roman Empire!!!!!

I remember many years ago when my History Teacher told our class that the USA was going to end up the same way as the Roman Empire did (greed, immorality, no middle class, etc.)SHE WAS RIGHT!
Laughable

United States

#52 Feb 11, 2013
Oh I love hearing the BS-why should the kids suffer. When we were kids we had nothing. Everyone was basically in the same position. We suffered but it made us who we are today-responsible people that work hard and don't rely on the government to support us. There used to be a stigma attached to being on welfare. Now it just an acceptable way of life. They should receive welfare for only a certain length of time and if they have more than two kids their benefits should be cut not extended.
2 Much Truth 4 U

United States

#53 Feb 11, 2013
Drug test wrote:
Drug test all the welfare scum before giving them a dime!
Sorry idiot. Fla did it before the supreme court shut them down.

Guess what the statistics revealed you non=problem solver-
Drug use was no different than the non welfare population.

Safe to say nobody is paying you for your "brilliant" problem solving skills.

Seriously people, if you don't stop acting like a bunch of 75 year old women jealous of what welfare scum is getting... how do you upstate hicks ever expect anyone else out here in america to care about your pathetic hate filled asses?

Seriously.... you spend 10x + what you spend on welfare for the REAL welfare - paying lazy over redundant layers of "law enforcement" to trash half the population while taxing the other half out of the state. As you can see, the police welfare state is doing 'so well" in ny and you patent retards still haven't even identified the real problem.

So you losers go right on clocking those price chopper "steaks" the welfare people are buying and the real thieves will keep robbing you of thousands a year for little more in return than lies, excuses and utter utter failure at their jobs. Damn even the crackhead welfare steak buyers don't get you for thousands of dollars a year like those local retard-packs they hire in your local governments there.

This is too funny you people are simply too stupid to even see what really killed you. A lot of people feel you deserve it and are beyond help.
2 Much Truth 4 U

United States

#54 Feb 11, 2013
A taxpayer wrote:
<quoted text>Christianity is based on the principle of free will and individual reaponsibility to Christ, oneself and one's community. It is also based on adherence to the Ten Commandments and the excercise of restraint of conduct. The Bible nor Christ said a word about government welfare.
Sorry, like most religion, Christianity is in reality based upon people's need to hide behind a veil of piousness while judging and attacking people as "below you". No two ways about it.
Story

Syracuse, NY

#55 Feb 11, 2013
Can someone please post a link to the story from OD?
I am interested in readingit.

Thanks
2 Much Truth 4 U

United States

#56 Feb 11, 2013
Story wrote:
Can someone please post a link to the story from OD?
I am interested in readingit.
Thanks
From Dallas to Utica: Mother rebuilds life with help of government.

UTICA —

Francis Street looks dreary. A pair of girls, one shielding her hair from the drizzle, walks past the place teen prostitute Desiree Case was stabbed to death in February 13 years ago.

A few doors from the now vacant lot where the murder happened, a baby stroller hangs from the railing of a beige two-family home, its front porch sloping downward slightly. The aroma of beans and rice cooking wafts from the kitchen at the back.

Jessica Lopez, in a gray tank top and pink sweatpants, tends to the pots and pans that will produce dinner for as many as 11 people. Her son, Isaiah, 14, discusses plans to go to a martial arts class with a family friend.

Jessica, 31, has six sons, ranging in age from 4 to 15. She has been with the father of the youngest four for 14 years. He doesn’t live with them, but he stops by and helps out as much as he can.

“He is going to MVCC and he has his own place,” she says of Eric Magana, who is also 31.“I am here, I pay my own bills. I am the provider here.”

The young mother, a transplant from Dallas, is one of thousands of people in Oneida County who depend on government services to get by. The number of people on food stamps, Medicaid and temporary financial assistance has continued to climb in recent years as the economy has struggled to right itself.

Though Jessica works full time, her family is on Medicaid and gets food stamps. Daycare for her younger children is fully funded by a government program and a little more than half her rent is also covered. She doesn’t get any cash assistance, however.

She wants to get off services, but just can’t right now, she says.

Standing in her tidy kitchen, Jessica tells a story of a downward spiral from bad friends into a methamphetamine addiction that was very hard to kick.

“I was just constantly getting higher and higher and higher and I was going to places I had never been before and doing things I had never done before,” she says.“I was like, this is not me and this is not right. Enough.”

That’s when she came to Utica. In 2010, her sister Rachel had put down roots here almost by accident. She’d come for a wedding and decided to go into recovery here to end her heroin addiction. Rachel, now 32, went to Insight House and turned her life around, Jessica says.

“She got clean and she got her kids back and I saw she was doing real good,” Jessica says.“I wanted the same things.”

Jessica moved to Utica with her younger four children in July of 2011. She was homeless for a while, and stayed at JCTOD Outreach and another shelter. By February of 2012, after going through a recovery program at Insight House, her life became more stable and her older sons were able to join her.

Jessica now has a full-time job at AAA. She is the person who tells you help is on the way when you are stranded on the side of the road in a blizzard. Rachel works there too, and helped her get the job.

Isaiah is sitting on a step ladder in the kitchen as his mother cooks and talks. He’s got a dark hooded sweatshirt on and is wearing opaque black contact lenses that look a little scary, but make his mother laugh.

Isaiah wants to be a professional martial arts fighter, but plans to try out college first “because I think I’ll have to know more things before I get to that area.”

If the martial arts thing doesn’t work out, does he have another idea?

“Sadly, yes. A teacher.”

“I want him to be a teacher,” Jessica interjects.

“I like teaching other people things they don’t know,” Isaiah says.“Like when I help my little brothers with their math homework. I just like teaching.”

Isaiah’s had to help his brothers a lot over the years, as his mother struggled with her addiction.
2 Much Truth 4 U

United States

#57 Feb 11, 2013
“She started out real rough, with her addiction to marijua-?” he looks over at his mother.

“Crystal meth,” she corrects.

“Sometimes she asked me to watch the kids and I had no other choice so I just did it,” he says.“I just, I just, I don’t know, when she couldn’t take care of the family at the time I would help her.”

Mother and son debate when things changed and determine that Isaiah was 12.

Despite the tough times, there is an easy harmony in the kitchen. Asked what makes it work, they laugh.

“I don’t know,” Isaiah says.“Like sometimes we are just happy about life and we don’t need to be sad about it or mad. When she is happy, it makes me happy, and I don’t have anything to worry about, I guess.”

A closet door near the stove is pasted with children’s artwork. The tail feathers of a Thanksgiving turkey have the words “Food,”“Home,”“School,”“Family ,”“Friends,”“Cars,”“Brothers,” “Dad” and “Mom “ written on them. The things 4-year-old Moises is thankful for.

The meal is progressing. Jessica is stirring the contents of a golden-brown ceramic pot that looks hand made. She makes her own refried beans rather than buying canned ones — it’s cheaper, tastes better and is better for you, she says. The pot, a gift from her mother, is an essential part of the recipe.

Other kids have come home, bringing some of Rachel’s. They are sprawled in the warm but sparsely furnished apartment, talking and laughing quietly.

The sisters trade off cooking for everyone, because they can stretch their resources further that way. But Jessica says it’s also how she wants her kids to grow up — closely with their cousins like she and Rachel did.

Rachel has also popped in, and Eric appears flashing a new forest green MVCC sweatshirt.

Like Jessica, he is from Dallas. He moved here because of her and is also in recovery for a meth addiction.

He’s going to take Rachel to her second job at Insight House and then pick up the younger kids at daycare.

Eric is taking courses in heating, ventilation and air conditioning and hopes to land a good-paying job and start contributing to the family income soon.

He’s getting financial aid, but Jessica isn’t sure of the particulars.

Will they stay in Utica forever?

It’s unclear what the future holds. Jessica’s parents want them back in Dallas, but she doesn’t want to go back until she and Eric have recovered more from their addictions.

“At school everyone is like,‘Why did you leave Dallas to come to Utica?’” Eric says.“It’s been so good to me, so I don’t have any complaints about it, with the kids and everything.”

Meanwhile, the meal has been completed. Beans blended in the blender and mixed in with an earlier batch and yellow rice now pushing though the orange sauce it was cooked in.

“Tell them it’s ready, guys,” Jessica calls to the kids.“I just need to clean the kitchen.”

The teenagers and younger kids move slowly, still too involved in their conversations to heed Jessica’s calls to help out. She just rolls her eyes and smiles.

“I find myself lost when the house is quiet,” she says, wiping the counter clean.

There's some pictures too here -

http://www.uticaod.com/news/x2082690049/From-...

But I don't know if the pop up and spam assault at the OD is worth it for you.
New2oneida

Danielson, CT

#58 Feb 11, 2013
pizzajerk wrote:
How about we do this instead of giving these low life scum a debit card how about we make one line for them to check out at the register that is just dedicated to these low lifes so we the working class do not get heldup in line. We must also force them to buy the generic brand of everything alos no potato chips not slim jims no ice cream, no soda. They must live simple no I phones no cable tv no air conditioning. They should also not get a private apartment to live in they should be forced to live in a shelter
. I'm right there with you, a separate line at the store with a bitch of a case worker sitting there 24 /7 telling them no to all the better items like steak, shrimp, filled birthday cakes, red bull etc. if they can afford that then they don't need food stamps.
We so bad

United States

#59 Feb 11, 2013
Then when we're done counting those pennies and thinking we're badasses we can worry about the real problem - Public Unions and government making 65% of our taxes go to the most expensive "public safety" for drug wars and retarded shyt. That costs over 10x more.

We're so bad!
Moreover

United States

#60 Feb 11, 2013
New2oneida wrote:
<quoted text>. I'm right there with you, a separate line at the store with a bitch of a case worker sitting there 24 /7 telling them no to all the better items like steak, shrimp, filled birthday cakes, red bull etc. if they can afford that then they don't need food stamps.
I've said this before - If you truly actually have to clock what poor people are buying all envious and angry? You probably need to get a better job because butterflies must piss you off too.
That's probably the threshold line of "white trash" for you. Money is like Doritos. Spend all you want if you know how to easily make more. You guys really need to get a hold of yourselves you reveal just how patty and fked up you are looking for this cheap pile of rotted pallets as a platform to profess your ultimate oootican superiority. Just stfu and force your kids to stay in school or they'll have to work for the failed local government for financial well being, the oxymoron that that is.
huge tom huge

Camillus, NY

#61 Feb 11, 2013
These fat slobs don't need food stamps they need a date with Mcnair.
stigma

Utica, NY

#62 Feb 11, 2013
they're still is a funking stigma about public assistance. Pretty sure the OD wrote that article to be sarcastic nad provacative and anger most who read it...and to sell newspapers and ad space in the future....which is what the media does.
Hmmmm

United States

#63 Feb 11, 2013
stigma wrote:
they're still is a funking stigma about public assistance. Pretty sure the OD wrote that article to be sarcastic nad provacative and anger most who read it...and to sell newspapers and ad space in the future....which is what the media does.
No it needs to be looked at because it is a problem, but you are right the OD has a lot more they should be talking about when it comes to "welfare' and most of the locals there are about 20 years shy of the sophistication to see it. The real welfare is the class of public servant you employ there. The lowest of the low, the most crude uneducated people I think you can find. They cost you 10x the welfare parasites.
Petra Gonzalez

Camillus, NY

#64 Feb 11, 2013
I cost the taxpayers millions feeding my stains and don't ask about the medical bills, CPS workers, county workers.
Tony Chiffy Parkway Pedo

United States

#65 Feb 11, 2013
Petra Gonzalez wrote:
I cost the taxpayers millions feeding my stains and don't ask about the medical bills, CPS workers, county workers.
Some of those "stans" look like cute young boys to me. Wanna rent me one for a few hrs? I'll slip you some oxys!
Petra Gonzalez

Camillus, NY

#66 Feb 11, 2013
Love the millions of free money.
Blame pubic unions

United States

#67 Feb 11, 2013
Petra Gonzalez wrote:
Love the millions of free money.
Are you a public union member?

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