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Former Employee

West Leyden, NY

#1 Mar 3, 2009
The Utica Rescue Mission operates on a hush hush policy.If the media comes we are told not to talk to them and refer all inquires to reverand Bill Dodge.With the added comment "if we do talk without authorization you would be terminated.I worked at the Utica Mission for quite sometime.I can tell you about how the mission has condones harrassment(which I have documenation).I can tell you about favoritism towards certain cliential,visitors,and employees.I can tell you that The Utica Rescue Mission is all fluff.And the image that the mission strives to give to the public.Is not the true Utica rescue Mission.It is a money making machine.Which strives for bringing in the almighty dollar.True they help certain indivuals.Like the client that appeared on their latest mission newsletter.But if they do help a client such as this.They will immediately bring him out as an example.Ican tell you about hoarding supplies,and giving these donated supplies out to select clients.I can tell you how they make their clients go to chapel.If they dont they are reprimanded.I can tell you how they lock the clients out in the cold every day mon-fri for 2 hours.just because the coordinator doesnt want to have to face helping the clients.His excuse is meetings,but the truth is he is visiting next door with the parkerhouse coordinator having coffee.I have more,lots more.The falsehood of the image of the mission is to bring in money,period.
The Utica Rescue Mission Executive Director is more concerned with the image of The Rescue Mission.More so than the interworkings of the programs.This is all fluff in my opinion to gain needed funds and donantions.It is true that they as a whole do help certain indivuals.But I believe this is for prosperity.I can devuldge the true workings of how everything is done,from the inside out.But if you only knew where your donations acually went,and how they were hoarded by one peticuliar employee,you probably would'nt give any longer.This is a comment by a former
employee
promotion

Utica, NY

#2 Mar 3, 2009
Former Employee wrote:
The Utica Rescue Mission operates on a hush hush policy.If the media comes we are told not to talk to them and refer all inquires to reverand Bill Dodge.With the added comment "if we do talk without authorization you would be terminated.
This is fairly common practice. Offices have people in charge of PR for many reasons. I have talked to reporters before and their story did not represent what I told them. Businesses have to look out for their image. It is hard to serve the public when you are not in business.
ok spill the beans

Rome, NY

#3 Mar 3, 2009
tels us more. Please
Get Real

New York, NY

#4 Mar 3, 2009
Former Employee wrote:
The Utica Rescue Mission operates on a hush hush policy.If the media comes we are told not to talk to them and refer all inquires to reverand Bill Dodge.With the added comment "if we do talk without authorization you would be terminated.I worked at the Utica Mission for quite sometime.I can tell you about how the mission has condones harrassment(which I have documenation).I can tell you about favoritism towards certain cliential,visitors,and employees.I can tell you that The Utica Rescue Mission is all fluff.And the image that the mission strives to give to the public.Is not the true Utica rescue Mission.It is a money making machine.Which strives for bringing in the almighty dollar.True they help certain indivuals.Like the client that appeared on their latest mission newsletter.But if they do help a client such as this.They will immediately bring him out as an example.Ican tell you about hoarding supplies,and giving these donated supplies out to select clients.I can tell you how they make their clients go to chapel.If they dont they are reprimanded.I can tell you how they lock the clients out in the cold every day mon-fri for 2 hours.just because the coordinator doesnt want to have to face helping the clients.His excuse is meetings,but the truth is he is visiting next door with the parkerhouse coordinator having coffee.I have more,lots more.The falsehood of the image of the mission is to bring in money,period.
The Utica Rescue Mission Executive Director is more concerned with the image of The Rescue Mission.More so than the interworkings of the programs.This is all fluff in my opinion to gain needed funds and donantions.It is true that they as a whole do help certain indivuals.But I believe this is for prosperity.I can devuldge the true workings of how everything is done,from the inside out.But if you only knew where your donations acually went,and how they were hoarded by one peticuliar employee,you probably would'nt give any longer.This is a comment by a former
employee
Hey Former Employee -

You're comprehension of functional organizational structures is weak, which suggests you have never held a high level executive position of any sort.

1.) It is reasonable to have all communications go through one primary channel- Bill Dodge

2.) Everything else you spew is opinion/hearsay or should I say your perception of wrongdoing.

3.) Before you start making accusations, be sure you're prepared to state your name and demonstrate conclusive proof of improprieties. Until then, please refrain from unsubstantiated truths that do nothing more than disparage those who are committed to fulfilling their societal obligations.

4.) As an added bonus - Please learn to use spell check if you wish to be taken seriously.
Get Real

New York, NY

#5 Mar 3, 2009
You're should be your
I donate

New York, NY

#6 Mar 3, 2009
Former Employee wrote:
The Utica Rescue Mission operates on a hush hush policy.If the media comes we are told not to talk to them and refer all inquires to reverand Bill Dodge.With the added comment "if we do talk without authorization you would be terminated.I worked at the Utica Mission for quite sometime.I can tell you about how the mission has condones harrassment(which I have documenation).I can tell you about favoritism towards certain cliential,visitors,and employees.I can tell you that The Utica Rescue Mission is all fluff.And the image that the mission strives to give to the public.Is not the true Utica rescue Mission.It is a money making machine.Which strives for bringing in the almighty dollar.True they help certain indivuals.Like the client that appeared on their latest mission newsletter.But if they do help a client such as this.They will immediately bring him out as an example.Ican tell you about hoarding supplies,and giving these donated supplies out to select clients.I can tell you how they make their clients go to chapel.If they dont they are reprimanded.I can tell you how they lock the clients out in the cold every day mon-fri for 2 hours.just because the coordinator doesnt want to have to face helping the clients.His excuse is meetings,but the truth is he is visiting next door with the parkerhouse coordinator having coffee.I have more,lots more.The falsehood of the image of the mission is to bring in money,period.
The Utica Rescue Mission Executive Director is more concerned with the image of The Rescue Mission.More so than the interworkings of the programs.This is all fluff in my opinion to gain needed funds and donantions.It is true that they as a whole do help certain indivuals.But I believe this is for prosperity.I can devuldge the true workings of how everything is done,from the inside out.But if you only knew where your donations acually went,and how they were hoarded by one peticuliar employee,you probably would'nt give any longer.This is a comment by a former
employee
You mean a "DISGRUNTLED" FORMER employee, that was probab;y fired for making sexual advances to a homeless resident.
Jim

Boise, ID

#7 Mar 3, 2009
I donate wrote:
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You mean a "DISGRUNTLED" FORMER employee, that was probab;y fired for making sexual advances to a homeless resident.
Hydro takes care of all sexual needs there. He finds it a good place to hide from Okwaho13. LOL and LOL. Melon Head!
What

Raleigh, NC

#8 Mar 3, 2009
Former Employee wrote:
The Utica Rescue Mission operates on a hush hush policy.If the media comes we are told not to talk to them and refer all inquires to reverand Bill Dodge.With the added comment "if we do talk without authorization you would be terminated.I worked at the Utica Mission for quite sometime.I can tell you about how the mission has condones harrassment(which I have documenation).I can tell you about favoritism towards certain cliential,visitors,and employees.I can tell you that The Utica Rescue Mission is all fluff.And the image that the mission strives to give to the public.Is not the true Utica rescue Mission.It is a money making machine.Which strives for bringing in the almighty dollar.True they help certain indivuals.Like the client that appeared on their latest mission newsletter.But if they do help a client such as this.They will immediately bring him out as an example.Ican tell you about hoarding supplies,and giving these donated supplies out to select clients.I can tell you how they make their clients go to chapel.If they dont they are reprimanded.I can tell you how they lock the clients out in the cold every day mon-fri for 2 hours.just because the coordinator doesnt want to have to face helping the clients.His excuse is meetings,but the truth is he is visiting next door with the parkerhouse coordinator having coffee.I have more,lots more.The falsehood of the image of the mission is to bring in money,period.
The Utica Rescue Mission Executive Director is more concerned with the image of The Rescue Mission.More so than the interworkings of the programs.This is all fluff in my opinion to gain needed funds and donantions.It is true that they as a whole do help certain indivuals.But I believe this is for prosperity.I can devuldge the true workings of how everything is done,from the inside out.But if you only knew where your donations acually went,and how they were hoarded by one peticuliar employee,you probably would'nt give any longer.This is a comment by a former
employee
Why are you a former employee? Were you let go? Your ramblings make you just sound disgruntled at losing the job.
Polo Assn

New York, NY

#9 Apr 21, 2009
Sounds like an ousted snake-in-the-grass who is still trying to bite.
Beenthere

AOL

#10 Jul 4, 2009
OK back in the 90s I had a triple whammy hit me. Lost my job (with not enough time there to collect unemployment)...live-in g/f left me for some nut she met online, only after trashing all of my belongings, and then codes shut down my bldg.

Rescue Mission [and Hope House] saved my life.

Yes they require chapel attendance. That is clearly stated when a person first checks in, as is their policy of random urine tests and also daily breathalyzer testing at the 10 pm curfew. And yes the shelter is closed weekdays during the day. After all, if they stayed open, we all know that many of the guys would just hang out all day sleeping and whatever. Myself, I used that time to go to Working Solutions, the Library, pound the pavement filling out job applications etc...

The mission got me PA, helped me find an affordable apartment, helped me with other subsidies...and after a few months, I landed a decent job which enabled me to get off PA within a month!!

And the chapel services were not all that bad. I have been in worse situations than hearing Pastor Rick sing "Power in the Blood"...

Hey this is Topix so I am ready to duck and hide from the expected comments BUT just think about this regarding places like Hope House and Rescue Mission:

We know all too well that there are many who just want a free ride. BUT there are those out there who just need a helping hand during rough times. These places provide just that--Hope House for daily short-term, and Rescue Mission focusing on LONG TERM rehab with rules and structure. We never hear about the success stories from these places. We never hear about all the over 70 people who help stretch a dollar by going to Hope House for hot meals. We only hear about the negative, hookers at Hope House and bums at Rescue Mission etc etc ad infinitum.

Not judging the original poster although I sorta hear the sound of an axe that is ready to be ground...Just giving the other side of the coin.

And I am not the only one whose butt was saved by the Mission and who went on to getting off temporary PA and to get a decent job, stay sober and clean, not get into trouble and to make good.

And in conclusion, NEVER think it could not happen to you because far too many decent, law abiding middle-class people thought that last fall when the rug was pulled out from under them during the economic woes...

I am just thankful that the Mission was there for me.

Thanks for taking the time to read this. And for the record, when all this happened, I was (am) in recovery, I was a wildassed boozer/druggie and I also have a criminal record from my wild days. Mission didn't care, they just ensured that I stayed clean and also made it clear that if I relapsed, they had services to help with that.

So some of us can make it with a little help. I am one of many...
GRUE

Boise, ID

#11 Jul 4, 2009
This is a heartwarming story. Good for you! Keep striving for a better life. God Bless!
Beenthere wrote:
OK back in the 90s I had a triple whammy hit me. Lost my job (with not enough time there to collect unemployment)...live-in g/f left me for some nut she met online, only after trashing all of my belongings, and then codes shut down my bldg.
Rescue Mission [and Hope House] saved my life.
Yes they require chapel attendance. That is clearly stated when a person first checks in, as is their policy of random urine tests and also daily breathalyzer testing at the 10 pm curfew. And yes the shelter is closed weekdays during the day. After all, if they stayed open, we all know that many of the guys would just hang out all day sleeping and whatever. Myself, I used that time to go to Working Solutions, the Library, pound the pavement filling out job applications etc...
The mission got me PA, helped me find an affordable apartment, helped me with other subsidies...and after a few months, I landed a decent job which enabled me to get off PA within a month!!
And the chapel services were not all that bad. I have been in worse situations than hearing Pastor Rick sing "Power in the Blood"...
Hey this is Topix so I am ready to duck and hide from the expected comments BUT just think about this regarding places like Hope House and Rescue Mission:
We know all too well that there are many who just want a free ride. BUT there are those out there who just need a helping hand during rough times. These places provide just that--Hope House for daily short-term, and Rescue Mission focusing on LONG TERM rehab with rules and structure. We never hear about the success stories from these places. We never hear about all the over 70 people who help stretch a dollar by going to Hope House for hot meals. We only hear about the negative, hookers at Hope House and bums at Rescue Mission etc etc ad infinitum.
Not judging the original poster although I sorta hear the sound of an axe that is ready to be ground...Just giving the other side of the coin.
And I am not the only one whose butt was saved by the Mission and who went on to getting off temporary PA and to get a decent job, stay sober and clean, not get into trouble and to make good.
And in conclusion, NEVER think it could not happen to you because far too many decent, law abiding middle-class people thought that last fall when the rug was pulled out from under them during the economic woes...
I am just thankful that the Mission was there for me.
Thanks for taking the time to read this. And for the record, when all this happened, I was (am) in recovery, I was a wildassed boozer/druggie and I also have a criminal record from my wild days. Mission didn't care, they just ensured that I stayed clean and also made it clear that if I relapsed, they had services to help with that.
So some of us can make it with a little help. I am one of many...
Good for you

Corning, NY

#12 Jul 4, 2009
Endeavor to perserve
system sucks

New York, NY

#13 Jul 4, 2009
I know someone who has been staying at the mission for some time now and they charge him 800. a month for i stinking room and then go into his room anytime they want and also listen to his phone messages take his car away whenever it suits them for 2 weks at a time.It is about the almighty dollar they really don't give a dam about the people living there someone needs to put these workers to the street with rofaro and hire people that really want to help these people out like when the stimulas checks came in some might have gotten them but i know my friend didn't he was told that he couldn't have it but here this person is in need of clothes and personal items for himself and shouldn't have to beg for what is his. KEEP SPEAKING OUT hopefully someone will listen
Good for you

Corning, NY

#14 Jul 4, 2009
Wow, that made no sense. If your friend "has been there for some time" has his/her own car and pays $800 a month I say move the f out. who's messed up you or them? did you read the previous post?

Since: Jul 09

Long Eddy, NY

#15 Jul 4, 2009
Most of you people are missing the point. I think what the original poster is trying to convey is that The Rescue Mission is a big cash cow for the area. It is the portal through which all the bottom feeders enter our county before they are placed in subsidized apartments, given monthly checks, food stamps and free health care. Without The Rescue Mission Utica couldn't be the Nanny City that it is, because all of the homeless people - whether they were just let out of prison, a state psychiatric hospital or if they're just drifters - land there first.

It is a fairly big building with several hundred rooms, so our city can keep absorbing and accomodating thousands of new unproductive human burdens each year. Our local leaders have been allowing this to happen for decades now, they have turned Utica into one of the biggest social service city in the state. The proportion of social service employees (like case managers), health care workers (like visiting nurses) and unemployeed people to regular productive white collar or retail workers in Utica is highly unbalanced. The city is a black hole for vagrants and tax funded programs that do nothing to alleviate the plight of ignorance and poverty.

Our local leaders have sold us out. They have chased away our young educated people by filling the city to the brim with welfare garbage. Was it all to make themselves and their friends rich? Was it all to fill a void (since the city has always had a high vacancy rate)? Is there even a way to correct it now? This is what's wrong with The Rescue Mission. It is Utica's Ellis Island, it's Statue of Liberty welcoming all who are hungry, homeless and overburdened with addictions and want. That is all idealistically good and noble, yes, but to be a competitive city Utica needs to attract businesses that are going to contribute to the gentrification of the area. Businesses that will retain our college graduates by offering skilled jobs and competitive salaries. Lucrative businesses which will contribute substantially to the tax levy so home owners aren't overburdened with property taxes, and so that the county won't have to apply for a state or federal grant every time they re-pave a street. People who would like to see Utica move in a progressive direction are fed up with more of the same, so they leave. The Rescue Mission is more of the same, and it is being used by many who are well connected as a way to stuff their pocketes with green stuff. This is the only way to get rich in Utica.
ttbl1978

New York, NY

#16 Jul 4, 2009
Beenthere wrote:
OK back in the 90s I had a triple whammy hit me. Lost my job (with not enough time there to collect unemployment)...live-in g/f left me for some nut she met online, only after trashing all of my belongings, and then codes shut down my bldg.
Rescue Mission [and Hope House] saved my life.
Yes they require chapel attendance. That is clearly stated when a person first checks in, as is their policy of random urine tests and also daily breathalyzer testing at the 10 pm curfew. And yes the shelter is closed weekdays during the day. After all, if they stayed open, we all know that many of the guys would just hang out all day sleeping and whatever. Myself, I used that time to go to Working Solutions, the Library, pound the pavement filling out job applications etc...
The mission got me PA, helped me find an affordable apartment, helped me with other subsidies...and after a few months, I landed a decent job which enabled me to get off PA within a month!!
And the chapel services were not all that bad. I have been in worse situations than hearing Pastor Rick sing "Power in the Blood"...
Hey this is Topix so I am ready to duck and hide from the expected comments BUT just think about this regarding places like Hope House and Rescue Mission:
We know all too well that there are many who just want a free ride. BUT there are those out there who just need a helping hand during rough times. These places provide just that--Hope House for daily short-term, and Rescue Mission focusing on LONG TERM rehab with rules and structure. We never hear about the success stories from these places. We never hear about all the over 70 people who help stretch a dollar by going to Hope House for hot meals. We only hear about the negative, hookers at Hope House and bums at Rescue Mission etc etc ad infinitum.
Not judging the original poster although I sorta hear the sound of an axe that is ready to be ground...Just giving the other side of the coin.
And I am not the only one whose butt was saved by the Mission and who went on to getting off temporary PA and to get a decent job, stay sober and clean, not get into trouble and to make good.
And in conclusion, NEVER think it could not happen to you because far too many decent, law abiding middle-class people thought that last fall when the rug was pulled out from under them during the economic woes...
I am just thankful that the Mission was there for me.
Thanks for taking the time to read this. And for the record, when all this happened, I was (am) in recovery, I was a wildassed boozer/druggie and I also have a criminal record from my wild days. Mission didn't care, they just ensured that I stayed clean and also made it clear that if I relapsed, they had services to help with that.
So some of us can make it with a little help. I am one of many...
Extremely well put. I know someone who stayed at The Mission for a short time because he had NO PLACE else to go. We should be grateful to have a place like this in our area. And you are right - you never know what the future holds and if you may be in need of help at some point. Thank you for sharing your inspirational story!:)
Aquaman

New York, NY

#17 Jul 30, 2009
Plymouth wrote:
Most of you people are missing the point. I think what the original poster is trying to convey is that The Rescue Mission is a big cash cow for the area. It is the portal through which all the bottom feeders enter our county before they are placed in subsidized apartments, given monthly checks, food stamps and free health care. Without The Rescue Mission Utica couldn't be the Nanny City that it is, because all of the homeless people - whether they were just let out of prison, a state psychiatric hospital or if they're just drifters - land there first.
It is a fairly big building with several hundred rooms, so our city can keep absorbing and accomodating thousands of new unproductive human burdens each year. Our local leaders have been allowing this to happen for decades now, they have turned Utica into one of the biggest social service city in the state. The proportion of social service employees (like case managers), health care workers (like visiting nurses) and unemployeed people to regular productive white collar or retail workers in Utica is highly unbalanced. The city is a black hole for vagrants and tax funded programs that do nothing to alleviate the plight of ignorance and poverty.
Our local leaders have sold us out. They have chased away our young educated people by filling the city to the brim with welfare garbage. Was it all to make themselves and their friends rich? Was it all to fill a void (since the city has always had a high vacancy rate)? Is there even a way to correct it now? This is what's wrong with The Rescue Mission. It is Utica's Ellis Island, it's Statue of Liberty welcoming all who are hungry, homeless and overburdened with addictions and want. That is all idealistically good and noble, yes, but to be a competitive city Utica needs to attract businesses that are going to contribute to the gentrification of the area. Businesses that will retain our college graduates by offering skilled jobs and competitive salaries. Lucrative businesses which will contribute substantially to the tax levy so home owners aren't overburdened with property taxes, and so that the county won't have to apply for a state or federal grant every time they re-pave a street. People who would like to see Utica move in a progressive direction are fed up with more of the same, so they leave. The Rescue Mission is more of the same, and it is being used by many who are well connected as a way to stuff their pocketes with green stuff. This is the only way to get rich in Utica.
"Several hundred rooms"?! You obviously have nooo idea what you're talking about. It's also obvious you've never been there. God bless you anyway.
info123__

Fulton, NY

#18 Apr 1, 2012
Former Employee wrote:
The Utica Rescue Mission operates on a hush hush policy.If the media comes we are told not to talk to them and refer all inquires to reverand Bill Dodge.With the added comment "if we do talk without authorization you would be terminated.I worked at the Utica Mission for quite sometime.I can tell you about how the mission has condones harrassment(which I have documenation).I can tell you about favoritism towards certain cliential,visitors,and employees.I can tell you that The Utica Rescue Mission is all fluff.And the image that the mission strives to give to the public.Is not the true Utica rescue Mission.It is a money making machine.Which strives for bringing in the almighty dollar.True they help certain indivuals.Like the client that appeared on their latest mission newsletter.But if they do help a client such as this.They will immediately bring him out as an example.Ican tell you about hoarding supplies,and giving these donated supplies out to select clients.I can tell you how they make their clients go to chapel.If they dont they are reprimanded.I can tell you how they lock the clients out in the cold every day mon-fri for 2 hours.just because the coordinator doesnt want to have to face helping the clients.His excuse is meetings,but the truth is he is visiting next door with the parkerhouse coordinator having coffee.I have more,lots more.The falsehood of the image of the mission is to bring in money,period.
The Utica Rescue Mission Executive Director is more concerned with the image of The Rescue Mission.More so than the interworkings of the programs.This is all fluff in my opinion to gain needed funds and donantions.It is true that they as a whole do help certain indivuals.But I believe this is for prosperity.I can devuldge the true workings of how everything is done,from the inside out.But if you only knew where your donations acually went,and how they were hoarded by one peticuliar employee,you probably would'nt give any longer.This is a comment by a former
employee
Do they take a lot of federal grant money?
info123__

Fulton, NY

#19 Apr 1, 2012
Rescue Mission - where do they get most of their money? Thanks
Rev Phil Hodge

Utica, NY

#20 Apr 1, 2012
info123__ wrote:
Rescue Mission - where do they get most of their money? Thanks
Never you mind where it comes from or where it goes. Just keep sending money.

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