Donovan school is next

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Mercury

Reston, VA

#1 Aug 29, 2013
on the list of schools that needs a complete change of administrators and curriculum just like King School. They have shown no progress in 7 years and they have had multiple warnings from the state. It can't happen soon enough.
Kellogg Ave

Utica, NY

#2 Aug 29, 2013
Maybe it'll happen before school starts.
jackie

New Hartford, NY

#3 Aug 29, 2013
That hole needs to be razed and all the teachers fired. Their state test results were beyond shameful--among the worst in the state.
garbage

San Jose, CA

#4 Aug 29, 2013
jackie wrote:
That hole needs to be razed and all the teachers fired. Their state test results were beyond shameful--among the worst in the state.
Actually, it's next to the old nut-house therefore in the right place. Garbage is garbage and anything attending Utica schools or employed there is total garbage!
gorbe

New Hartford, NY

#5 Aug 30, 2013
That school is more overcrowded than a chinese sweat shop and about as safe. there hasn't been any learning going on in there in years. lousy teachers, no leadership, lousy atmosphere. the kids are the ones that are getting screwed over there--they are as unprepared for high school after leaving there as anyone can be
gorbe

New Hartford, NY

#6 Aug 30, 2013
Donovan: "A school beyond improvement."
School

Bronx, NY

#7 Aug 30, 2013
They have to have men principals with guts in the Jr High. It's a very tough age group to teach.
The Utica School system is notorious in putting the wrong people in these area. They should ask teachers to place them. They know who is good
and who is weak.Just like Carlos Wallace was fantastic at Proctor. No , jealousy always plays a big part. The guys in Administration could not deal with someone who actually had some b___ s. The school board have they heads in the sand.
School

Bronx, NY

#8 Aug 30, 2013
School wrote:
They have to have men principals with guts in the Jr High. It's a very tough age group to teach.
The Utica School system is notorious in putting the wrong people in these area. They should ask teachers to place them. They know who is good
and who is weak.Just like Carlos Wallace was fantastic at Proctor. No , jealousy always plays a big part. The guys in Administration could not deal with someone who actually had some b___ s.

The school board have they heads in the sand.
Correction:
The school board have their heads in the sand.

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Since: Nov 10

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#9 Aug 30, 2013
If I’m not mistaken, Donovan scored higher on the recent state tests than Kennedy did.
wrong

New Hartford, NY

#10 Aug 30, 2013
JusticeDefiled13501 wrote:
If I’m not mistaken, Donovan scored higher on the recent state tests than Kennedy did.
You are mistaken. Look up the scores on the state web site. I would but I don't have the time right now. If I do later, I will.
hereitis

New Hartford, NY

#11 Aug 30, 2013
donovan 15% proficient
jfk 15.3% proficient(not exactly blue ribbon school level)

http://rocdocs.democratandchronicle.com/datab...
hereitis

New Hartford, NY

#12 Aug 30, 2013
hereitis wrote:
donovan 15% proficient
jfk 15.3% proficient(not exactly blue ribbon school level)
http://rocdocs.democratandchronicle.com/datab...
However, donovan outscored JFK on 7 and 8th grade math scores. Overall, a pretty abysmal picture when compared with the rest of the state. Looks like JFK is as bad and underachieving as Donovan now. They both need complete overhauls.
ohmy

New Hartford, NY

#13 Aug 30, 2013
The worst sections of the Bronx scored higher than Utica did. Harlem outscored utica as well. What does that say about the UCSD when the hell hole of the city can outscore the kids that go to our schools.

Level 6

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#14 Aug 30, 2013
When compared with other URBAN districts Utica fared fairly well. When ranked by “wealth of district” they also ranked well. To compare them to sub-urban district is really unfair. The two largest factors in low test scores nationwide are poverty and single-parent households. There have been multiple studies that confirm this.
studies

Herkimer, NY

#15 Aug 30, 2013
Also many studies that show that poverty has no impact on student success. 90/90/90 schools. Look it up
Leroy the Welfare King

Utica, NY

#16 Aug 30, 2013
Don't be closing it. I moves some of my best product to them teachers.
befair

New Hartford, NY

#17 Aug 30, 2013
JusticeDefiled13501 wrote:
When compared with other URBAN districts Utica fared fairly well. When ranked by “wealth of district” they also ranked well. To compare them to sub-urban district is really unfair. The two largest factors in low test scores nationwide are poverty and single-parent households. There have been multiple studies that confirm this.
Your argument doesn't hold water when the kids in the slums of New York City can outscore Donovan and jFK. Rome has similar poverty levels and they also managed to outscore Utica. 15% of kids at a proficiency level is shameful- period. You are trying to make lemonade not out of lemons but out of manure. There is such a thing as looking at the positive side, but your take on this is just plain ridiculous. You shouldn't let your obvious sentiment for the district get in your way of fair judgement but it has, and it shows. These schools need serious help and the kids are being short-changed. All of your happy talk isn't going to change that. Of course, home life and money play a part, but so does the QUALITY of their education. The district is NOT holding up its end and hasn't for years. I have watched this first hand and not from the view from behind a keyboard.
Pearson

Utica, NY

#18 Aug 30, 2013
All of you who are so critical should take the tests and see what they really measure: how much more of the education dollar can be skimmed off the top for big business in the name of testing and accountability. Any statistician would tell you that the validity of one test to determine the effectiveness of a school is weak at best. We talk about data, but never bother to determine whether the data we gather is actually meaningful. Donovan and JFK put out some good students who go on to high school and then to college. I have to believe it is more than the supposed 15 percent proficient. I see Utica students improving in the long-term IF they continue to stengthen and unify the curriculum AND make some attempt to reduce the number of classes having more than 25 students (not average, but the actual number). This class reduction is especially important in the elementary schools. The cost of new teachers is tiny by comparison to the true dollar cost of the ridiculous testing just to pretend we have accountability. True accountability is in the success of our students after high school. "The proof is in the pudding."

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