notre dame coach suspended
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United States

#47 Oct 7, 2013
Soldier wrote:
Say that to the men who fight in the military to keep you and your family safe
Yes because petty school sports coaches and alcoholic parents school sports somehow help that? Wrong.
JP Gilroy is a real loser

Geneva, NY

#48 Oct 7, 2013
Picks on younger kids in the school just cause he's a little bigger.. Your a loser man got the IQ of a 9 year old with autism.. Ridin your skateboard around town like a little bitch. Glad you got benched because your as soft as baby shit and so is your pussified father who looks like he gets beat by your whore mother on a nightly basis. Can't wait to grow up and see you checking out my groceries at Hannafords so I can look you in the eye and tell you how big of a failure you are. Quit pickin on little kids tough guy, one day one of them is going to punch you little pea head, bitch.
Jim

Herkimer, NY

#49 Oct 8, 2013
Gilroy was a failure when he tried to coach in Ed Hinko Baseball too. He made sure to try to make his kid the star of the team & it didn't happen. Just plain sad if you ask me.
please

Herkimer, NY

#50 Oct 8, 2013
Unbelievable wrote:
<quoted text> straight disrespect. My heart goes out to all those who are in the military fighting for our country. At least knowledgable, respectful people place our troops above a game of football
Don't demean our troops fighting for our country by comparing them to ROTC camp.
NDfan

Herkimer, NY

#51 Oct 8, 2013
Look past the fact that this was football. These children went to an ROTC bootcamp. There is a pecking order in any school. Sister Anna Mae is the principal and Abraham is a coach. Sister Anna Mae ordered that these children not be penalized by holding them out of their respective sports for the week. Byron Abraham ignored that order and made his own call. Whether Sister Anna Mae was right or wrong in the way she decided she is the boss. Abraham thought he could insert his authority over hers. He was wrong. There are some things that are more important than football.
vinn

Utica, NY

#52 Oct 8, 2013
Nd fan....wake up...anna mae never spoke to coach. Never once ! He was NEVER told they had to play...wake up...can u imagine if one of those kids got hurt...their parents would have been the first to sue for being in a game with no practice....why do u think her...or the AD..or the assistant principal never told him...they were at the game...why didn't they just walk down there and tell him....never happen...get your facts strait...tell your kids learn how to be men ! O u can't do that cuz neither of you guys are
hmmmmmmmm

Utica, NY

#53 Oct 8, 2013
Concerned parent

New York, NY

#54 Oct 8, 2013
When will administration wake up and see the real problem with their coaching staff? They've lost some good football players because of coaches. Durr lost players too for the same reasons. ROTC teaches leadership sounds to me like the coaches can use this training.
NDFan

Ithaca, NY

#55 Oct 8, 2013
vinn wrote:
Nd fan....wake up...anna mae never spoke to coach. Never once ! He was NEVER told they had to play...wake up...can u imagine if one of those kids got hurt...their parents would have been the first to sue for being in a game with no practice....why do u think her...or the AD..or the assistant principal never told him...they were at the game...why didn't they just walk down there and tell him....never happen...get your facts strait...tell your kids learn how to be men ! O u can't do that cuz neither of you guys are
You know some pretty intimate details about this situation. Gutless post coach.
Player mom

Cazenovia, NY

#56 Oct 8, 2013
employer wrote:
<quoted text>
Please do not come and work for me. Coach thought it was right. Not everyone agreed with HIS OPINION. Obviously if he was told no player sits for missing practice due to academics than NO PLAYER SHOULD HAVE SAT.
Every player has academics they put aside until after practice. When our young men commit to a football team- it's their word they will be a member of that team and do their part- it's called responsibility, accountability ,commitment, dedication, and sacrifice!!! In addition ask any football coach in the area if players miss practice and haven't stepped foot on a field for 8 days- would they play that player... No responsible coach would. What would those "parents" say if he played their son and due to lack of practice and current knowledge of the plays he gets injured? Coach Byron did the right thing. It comes down to (and it's very obvious through the comments) a personal issue with Coach. It's very sad the whole team is being hurt for some parents personal agenda against Coach Byron.
Parent

Cazenovia, NY

#57 Oct 8, 2013
Ive had to listen to JP Gilroys parents complain and demean every coach that has ever coached this kid, who just isn't good at sports. They are bullies and the kid is spoiled
Truth

Utica, NY

#58 Oct 8, 2013
Player mom wrote:
<quoted text>
Every player has academics they put aside until after practice. When our young men commit to a football team- it's their word they will be a member of that team and do their part- it's called responsibility, accountability ,commitment, dedication, and sacrifice!!! In addition ask any football coach in the area if players miss practice and haven't stepped foot on a field for 8 days- would they play that player... No responsible coach would. What would those "parents" say if he played their son and due to lack of practice and current knowledge of the plays he gets injured? Coach Byron did the right thing. It comes down to (and it's very obvious through the comments) a personal issue with Coach. It's very sad the whole team is being hurt for some parents personal agenda against Coach Byron.
Sports should always take a backseat to education. You are wrong about wanting it the other way around.

The children went to an ROTC boot camp. ROTC is more than an activity. It is a class that they are graded on. Participation in this boot camp is part of the grade. Last week when the issue came up coaches and players were told that there would be no penalty for missing practices because of boot camp. Other sports abided. Football did not. Byron Abraham disagreed with the order so he didn't carry it out.

It's personnel matter just like it would be at any job. If the boss gives and order the employee needs to follow that order.
prospective nd parents

Utica, NY

#59 Oct 8, 2013
Please read these posts carefully...this is what you are headed for if you make the mistake of sending your kid to notre dame...a little Peyton Place right here in town
e utica also

Raleigh, NC

#60 Oct 8, 2013
prospective nd parents wrote:
Please read these posts carefully...this is what you are headed for if you make the mistake of sending your kid to notre dame...a little Peyton Place right here in town
Like this dosen't happen in every school around here, no issues in WBO, New Hartford, Proctor , give me a break just a ND issue
haha

Newington, CT

#61 Oct 8, 2013
Waste of space wrote:
Actually a youth wasted chasing balls around to please grown men is what typically comes back to bite them in the form of a nowhere career. This is part of the dumbing down of America. Teaching little boys to argue and act like retards is a recipe for future failure, as is evidenced anytime you see underachievers in the world.
Is it any wonder the most dumbed down, poorest areas in the US have laughably obsessive "sports teams" that suck up all the air in anyone's education? Not like the NY schools really educate kids that well but just saying. These people usually end up a "coach" a fire dispatcher or otherwise lowly public servants all you have to do is look around, and listen to the lunatic parents vicariously living through their kid's so-called "sports career"! What a dream lmao!
Awwww the little troll is back, and he is sad that these kids have friends and a life while he was stuck home all alone as a teen. It was great training for his career as a sad lonely internet troll though
Player mom

Cazenovia, NY

#62 Oct 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Sports should always take a backseat to education. You are wrong about wanting it the other way around.
The children went to an ROTC boot camp. ROTC is more than an activity. It is a class that they are graded on. Participation in this boot camp is part of the grade. Last week when the issue came up coaches and players were told that there would be no penalty for missing practices because of boot camp. Other sports abided. Football did not. Byron Abraham disagreed with the order so he didn't carry it out.
It's personnel matter just like it would be at any job. If the boss gives and order the employee needs to follow that order.
Do you know how fast those parents would be have a lawsuit files if their son got injured after not practicing for a week? Coach Abraham did the right thing - no responsible and accountable coach would put his players at risk in this situation. Coach wasn't choosing to dodge orders (he was never given) but was putting the safety of the players first! I am proud to have my son playing for him and would be appalled if he played my son in a game after not being on a football field for 8 days/missing practice. Again- sometimes doing the RIGHT thing isn't the popular thing - although in this circumstance it is.... But it's still the right thing!
Wowie

Utica, NY

#63 Oct 8, 2013
Gilroy's, all of them, are the biggest spoiled brats this area has ever seen. I remember back in my high school days and the acted as if they were better than anyone else. They walked around like there shit didn't smell. And they also acted a litlle gayish too. JP dad is a typical bad parent who thinks his kid is the best on earth, NOT.
Not a fan of Byron

New York, NY

#64 Oct 8, 2013
Clunk wrote:
Byron was told not to bench those kids. He was told by his boss and his boss's boss. And he did it anyway. It wasn't his call to make, but he tried to act like a big shot. Bottom line it was insubordination and he deserves what he gets. You can't bench kids for participating in an ACADEMIC program. Football is a hobby, it's extracurricular. It does not take precedence over academics. Ever. Period. That's kind of the point of going to school. No one gets graded on football. The idea is to get an education.
But it is HIS decision to play who he believes earned that right. You hired a guy to coach the team, HE should make the decision on who to play and who not to play. You CAN bench players for not being at practice all week, regardless of where they were. Would you let an employee make an important presentation if they had been at work all week?
ND got this wrong

Whitesboro, NY

#65 Oct 8, 2013
Notre Dame is totally incorrect about this one. I don't care if you like Byron or not, he did the correct thing. Football is a sport that requires game-planning and conditioning within a set of practices during the week. If players are not there to be a part of the game-planning and conditioning, how are they to be effective participants. This is not like a game of "pick up" basketball where you can get away with this. This is football, where if you're not prepared, you will be embarrassed.

Does Notre Dame have a set of "Athletic Policies" that it follows? Other local schools do have policies that spells out in detail what would happen if there was missed attendance at practices.

Also, it doesn't matter if the practices were missed due to ROTC, vacation, sickness, personnel issues, family emergencies...etc., a weeks worth of practices were missed.

Thanks for listening to my rant...trying to keep it clean and fair.
NDFan

Utica, NY

#66 Oct 8, 2013
Not a fan of Byron wrote:
<quoted text>
But it is HIS decision to play who he believes earned that right. You hired a guy to coach the team, HE should make the decision on who to play and who not to play. You CAN bench players for not being at practice all week, regardless of where they were. Would you let an employee make an important presentation if they had been at work all week?
He's an employee. Employees do what the boss tells them to do. End of story.

If my boss told me to let the employee who had been out all week do the presentation you bet I would.

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