notre dame coach suspended
ND parent

Cazenovia, NY

#318 Oct 23, 2013
former football mom wrote:
the problem here goes way beyond whether those kids had the right to play. they made a choice and should live with the consequences. this sense of entitlement needs to stop. vin you missed a great opportunity to teach your son a valuable life lesson. let him grow up and take his licks. he's playing a sport not meant for the weak of body or mind. let him fight his own battles he'll thank you for it later.
Well Said
to be former ND Parent

Whitesboro, NY

#319 Nov 20, 2013
Coach Abraham is fired. Vin Gilroy got his way. Now JP won't play his natural position of lineman anymore, the new coach will be too afraid not to make him the QB.
Really

Utica, NY

#320 Nov 20, 2013
I am sure that this kid had nothing to do with it! Seems to me that the coach is to blame for the situation. You need to be smart and realize that coach has many issues.
Stop

Syracuse, NY

#321 Nov 20, 2013
Gilroy and his followers will regret this move ..as a parent I won't stand for this manipulation all because his son had to sit out a game !
My son plays for ND as well and rules are rules all the players understand that ! Coach Abraham is very much like by his players ..
This was a Very Bad move and is parents are not going to stand for it !
Utican

Utica, NY

#322 Nov 20, 2013
All you supporters of Abraham need to get a life and see the real man then you will understand that he does not walk on water. You all make me sick with your attacks on a kid.
soon to b ex-NDparent

Whitesboro, NY

#323 Nov 20, 2013
Shameful for a Catholic School Administration and principle to make a long-time coach & alumni resign- or be fired over lies. NOWHERE do "special" parents get to make rules for the hired coach and his team...except here..This is wrong- and along with Coach Abraham leaving the school his loyal team and families will follow him right out that door! Shame on those people who have put this in motion and shame on the puppets who have acted on such stupidity. You think there was negative press over his suspension- you have no idea what is on the way over him being fired!!
Schollie

Syracuse, NY

#324 Nov 20, 2013
As is the case in other high schools, parents with children who are potential division 1 athletes are calling the shots again.
Misinformed

Carthage, NY

#325 Nov 20, 2013
If you follow Abraham out the door good riddance, you are nothing but an asshole too. This move seems like a blessing to cleanse the school of the people who would do such a thing. Why does this man have such a cult following? I played sports in high school and I would never have quit if the coach got fired. In a catholic school it's ironic the football coach is hailed as a god ...
watching

Herkimer, NY

#326 Nov 20, 2013
Misinformed wrote:
If you follow Abraham out the door good riddance, you are nothing but an asshole too. This move seems like a blessing to cleanse the school of the people who would do such a thing. Why does this man have such a cult following? I played sports in high school and I would never have quit if the coach got fired. In a catholic school it's ironic the football coach is hailed as a god ...
I believe that yours is a misplaced allegiance. The football coach did only what ALL football coaches would have done. He protected unprepared players from possible injury while following standards accepted by NYSPHS.
ND followed their flawed policy of bowing to the affluent crowd who expect to have their way.
Now, a once great institution has begun its demise.
Misinformed

Carthage, NY

#327 Nov 20, 2013
watching wrote:
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I believe that yours is a misplaced allegiance. The football coach did only what ALL football coaches would have done. He protected unprepared players from possible injury while following standards accepted by NYSPHS.
ND followed their flawed policy of bowing to the affluent crowd who expect to have their way.
Now, a once great institution has begun its demise.
My allegiance will never be misplaced - and if he did what all football coaches would have done I'm genuinely concerned. You clearly don't know the whole story ...
Just wrong

Whitesboro, NY

#328 Nov 20, 2013
Misinformed wrote:
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My allegiance will never be misplaced - and if he did what all football coaches would have done I'm genuinely concerned. You clearly don't know the whole story ...
.....and you clearly do!!!
watching

Herkimer, NY

#329 Nov 20, 2013
If ND actually had a story to tell here, they would have done so. Absent that, the perception is the reality. ND loses here.
Utica

Utica, NY

#330 Nov 20, 2013
Abraham did not get fired over safety issues! He went to the media to cover his own skin and get his followers to keep posting. Why don't you ask your coach to tell the truth for once.
DosVeces

Bloomington, IN

#331 Nov 20, 2013
Who is going to replace him?
DosVeces

Bloomington, IN

#332 Nov 20, 2013
Clunk wrote:
Byron was told not to bench those kids. He was told by his boss and his boss's boss. And he did it anyway. It wasn't his call to make, but he tried to act like a big shot. Bottom line it was insubordination and he deserves what he gets. You can't bench kids for participating in an ACADEMIC program. Football is a hobby, it's extracurricular. It does not take precedence over academics. Ever. Period. That's kind of the point of going to school. No one gets graded on football. The idea is to get an education.
Since when does a principal get to decide who plays in a game?
bob

Utica, NY

#333 Nov 20, 2013
He did not go to the media...the media went to him. Wake up vinny
My wife is drunk

Rome, NY

#334 Nov 20, 2013
Vin u piece of sh_t u and u drunk wife will get yours...and keep paying that money to ND because that's the only way your retarded son will ever get out of high school. Where wi the village idiot aka your son go after ND vin? Best start saving your money for Utica school of commerce for him
Misinformed

Carthage, NY

#335 Nov 20, 2013
My wife is drunk wrote:
Vin u piece of sh_t u and u drunk wife will get yours...and keep paying that money to ND because that's the only way your retarded son will ever get out of high school. Where wi the village idiot aka your son go after ND vin? Best start saving your money for Utica school of commerce for him
I pray spewing this hate will give you peace - because this is the ugliest thing I've ever read online
Jumping Jack Flash

Frankfort, NY

#336 Nov 24, 2013
For al you posters that seem to want to bring in alleged private personal acts as the basis for BA's temporary separation from ND, I suggest that you re-examine your own motives behind making the statements. This man was hired as a football coach which is the position that he functioned and functioned well. The AYSO mentality is what has destroyed youth sports as along with it the ability for parental and others disrespect for coaching and adults has been a created environment. The more this behavior and activity is fostered the worse it will get. However, I was thinking this morning that the matters could be worse such as if someone was physically hurt as in the Whitesboro-New Hartford American Legion Game this past summer where parents actually went on the field in the middle of the melee, participating in the same. Arrests were made.
Here we have purely selfish acts by parents with a little bit of power and influence helping to generate decisions that just plain wrong on many levels.
The pressures created upon these young children,(who by the way, had no problems themselves in the coaches decision regarding playing time, IN A TOTALLY LOP-SIDED NOTRE DAME VICTORY AGAINST LOWLY CLINTON (something which is somehow forgotten and unmentioned) is unnecessary and damaging individuals, the school, the catholic faith, and this area which can ill afford any more negative publicity.

IF you are going to respond, think before you type, and check your hatred and animosity as I have no horse in the race here. I know people on all sides, and make no personal attacks.

Lets clean up our acts and do what's right.
This is not just sports. Its life.
Let me take a deep breath

Lowville, NY

#337 Nov 24, 2013
Well said. Jumping Jack Flash. Well Said.

I agree with you 100 percent.

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