fred

Columbus, OH

#644 Oct 4, 2012
I know Clayton well. When I heard the news I was surprised as many but not completely shocked. He was raised in what one would call a "different" environment; I can't say for certain but I believe he was abused. He always acted very sketchy and lacked common sense. Lets just say the combination of his raising/ personality + roids= a deadly combination.
Just my 2 cents.
Thoughts and prayers for the Kogut Family.
stfu

Kirkville, NY

#645 Oct 4, 2012
DENTED HEADGIRL wrote:
Turkey fires artillery at Syria, and KoGUT family is missing a flounder.
I've already started my investigation to find out who you are.Start praying that i don't find out.
Gus

Newport, NY

#646 Oct 4, 2012
Former NH resident wrote:
As a friend of Clayton's family, and former resident of New Hartford, I would think sympathy would go out to BOTH families. It is a horrific incident for both families. May God be with both families. And the OD is just doing their job.
Yes, we can only pray that the DA's office nails Mr. Dimwittemore's @ss to the cross!!!!! May God be with the Kogut Family.
Just Curious

Utica, NY

#647 Oct 4, 2012
You seem awful worried about the party and the beer. Although its a sad situation, she was 18. nobody MADE her drink a beer. She's an adult now, not legal age to drink but she made that choice. get over it.
Sue Nammi wrote:
So many questions about this
-When did Clayton arrive at campus to visit her.
-Did they go to dinner at campus cafeteria or somewhere in town, just as a couple or in a group.
-when and where did they go after dinner? Someone has said a friend's house party off campus, who were they with? Where was this party, who threw it (underaged drinking going on) how much did they have to drink
-someone has said the car they were in got pulled over and an open beer can was inside, that it was Alex's but Clayton took the blame (to cover her being underaged and being on swim team?)where did the beer come from and who bought it? Who was driving? Who else was in the car?
-Is there a record of a ticket issued for open container by Brockport PD to Clayton or anyone else? Was a sobriety test given.
-was Alex's roommate gone for the weekend? or was she with them at dinner and party? or did she leave them to be alone for the night? When did she return to the dorm?
-someone said that they fought over an incident of embarrassment, did this happen at the house party?
or in the car (was it cuz of the open beer?)
-what is official cause of death, and what object(s) or weapon was used
-was it left at the scene or did Clayton take it with him (goes long ways in establishing frame of mind after assaulting her), if he took it, where did he dispose of it, or was it in his car when cops found him
-when he left the dorm, did he take his bag with stuff he brought for weekend, clothes, books, etc to cover up that he had been there? or did he leave it behind
-did he attempt to cover up any evidence of blood on him or his clothes? such as put on a jacket and wash his hands/face or purposely change his clothes to clean items?
-when he left the dorm, did the check in RA remember if he casually walked out or hurriedly left or look like he was concealing something?
-what time and where was he when he allegedly called his parent(s) to say he did something. Was he on campus, or in his car going to the thruway or already on the thruway.(it takes a while to get on thruway from the campus, 13 miles, giving him plenty time to contemplate what he had done)
-did they tell him to pull over for cops at the rest area or did cops find him on a APB?
read a bible

Netherlands

#648 Oct 4, 2012
Gus wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, we can only pray that the DA's office nails Mr. Dimwittemore's @ss to the cross!!!!! May God be with the Kogut Family.
Cohabiting and having sexual relationships with a person to whom one is not legally married, she will never see heaven and God will have nothing to do with her.
Just Wondering

Dover, DE

#649 Oct 4, 2012
read a bible wrote:
<quoted text> Cohabiting and having sexual relationships with a person to whom one is not legally married, she will never see heaven and God will have nothing to do with her.
Here we go, now we got god into it. The invisible man in the sky who supposedly loves all including so called sinners.
Read some facts

Utica, NY

#650 Oct 4, 2012
read a bible wrote:
<quoted text> Cohabiting and having sexual relationships with a person to whom one is not legally married, she will never see heaven and God will have nothing to do with her.
Sounds to me you're a retard and live out of a fictional book in order to talk shyt about people. You know, typical religions simpleton moron stuff. Keep talking and show us how patently ignorant you are.
SP IT Tech Engineer

Baldwinsville, NY

#651 Oct 4, 2012
Lawyerz wrote:
<quoted text>It is impossible in a great many cases. Do you live in a jar? Do you actually need examples? You have much to earn and a lot of misplaced faith. Also, I don't see where complaining to the state police about a civil matter will reveal anything bu what an idiot you sound like. Anyone who is sufficiently motivated can and will easily become multilayer anonymous. Happens every single day moron. There goes that misplaced faith.
Why not just be a decent person and not ever have to worry about it? Do you ever think of that instead of crying about somehow you need the state police to hold your hands so you can find maybe on a chance and a dream IF they actually threatened you in the first place. You really sound like a moron. I'm not surprised you got "so far" Mr. "NFL pro" on Topix. Keep your absolutes and stretching proclamations to yourself.
You seem to think, or at least are trying to make US think, you know something about the law and computer forensics. Let me tell you, YOU ARE WRONG. YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE, AND YOU ARE THE MORON. And YOU sound like an IDIOT! PD needs to give you more training! What Ex NFL Pro stated is pretty much on target. You want to match qualifications? Here are some of mine as of last SP Tech Academy! Can't wait for yours!
Responsible for Operation and Maintenance of Enterprise LAN/WAN Networks in a DOD environment. Maintains security clearance and certifications and follows all applicable DOD/NY State and U.S.Gov ernment policies, standards and regulations. Primarily responsible for maintaining hybrid Layer 3 10GbE Core, layer 2 distribution/access and wireless networks. Designs and integrates solutions into production and test environments. Hands on experience includes: Cisco Nexus 7010 w/distributed fabric, Cisco 6500ís, Cisco 3750X, 3750E, 3750, 2950/40, Cisco 4404 Wireless LAN Controller, Cisco WCS, Cisco 2700 Location Appliance, Cisco 1252AG Wi-Fi Access Points, Cisco Secure ACS, Cisco Works NMS, Cisco Call Manger Express and both Cisco and Nortel IP Phones. Maintains EIGRP Routing tables and HSRP Vlan Interfaces. Developed and implemented SNMPv3 solution for network monitoring using HP Openview and Dartware Intermapper on multiple DOD Networks. Manages Spanning-Tree and VTP to ensure network performance and scalability. Develops and maintains access control lists and manages port security mechanisms to protect and police operating environments. Deployed 20+ Cisco 3750X as part of environment refresh. Monitors all production and research network performance. Evaluates network physical condition via physical tours and remote monitoring of comm. closets with Netbotz remote monitoring pods. Documents equipment moves and changes to the network environment.
Assists coworkers with projects. Assists Entities with projects and engineering/deployment of custom investigative solutions. Provides support directly to other police agencies. Provides open and clear communication to all team members. Maintains strict confidentiality of operational environment. Maintains complete records and direct transfers for criminal and civil court actions, and appears as needed for testimony regarding same. Have made numerous presentations for Grand Jury Proceedings New York State Wide, and also have appeared and testified at U.S. Congressional hearings for U.S. Homeland Security.
fact

United States

#652 Oct 4, 2012
Who cares about new hartford trash anyways
Gus

Newport, NY

#653 Oct 4, 2012
read a bible wrote:
<quoted text> Cohabiting and having sexual relationships with a person to whom one is not legally married, she will never see heaven and God will have nothing to do with her.
How to tell if you are a religious fanatic!
Do you frequently notice all the sinners around you?
Do you think that being like Christ means you must avoid places you determine to be wicked?
Do you believe Hooters restaurants are pornographic establishments?
Do you think being religious makes you Godly? or Righteous?
Do you think going to church makes you better than anyone else?
Do you think you can earn your way into Heaven by doing good deeds?

If you answered yes to any of the above, odds are high you are a religious fanatic.
SAD

Fort Drum, NY

#654 Oct 4, 2012
read a bible wrote:
<quoted text> Cohabiting and having sexual relationships with a person to whom one is not legally married, she will never see heaven and God will have nothing to do with her.
Regardless of your beliefs do you really think your comment needed to be said? Seriously? Think about the family. Good Christian you are. You're the one god wont want. Fake Ass Religious Wanna Be!! A true person of God would never say that.
WTF

Fort Drum, NY

#655 Oct 4, 2012
DENTED HEADGIRL wrote:
SHE IS STILL DEAD STILL FLATTENED STILL BLACK AN BLUE CAN YOU HEAR MY SCREAMS
help my head is dented an getting longer help my shark teeth are gone help a flounder is thicker then me help stuck to floor
You must be a really ugly person jealous of this beautiful girl.
Getting Closer

Baldwinsville, NY

#656 Oct 4, 2012
The idiot posters is a group of at least a half dozen, most likely college students. Only 2 or possibly 3 are actually posting, the rest in support. They have not mentioned anything regarding OD writeups or local TV stories, so, they obviously are out of the area, or do not have access to local media. There is no such place as Norton,NY.
fact

United States

#657 Oct 4, 2012
She was a drug addict! Lol
read a bible

Lansing, MI

#658 Oct 4, 2012
Jesus hated impurity so much that He told His disciples that they should be willing to pluck out their right eye and cut off their right hand rather than sin with those members (Mt. 5:27-29). Read a Bible, then get a job so working people don't have to pay for the sinners to sit around on topix all day and night.
hey lying nerd wanabee

Utica, NY

#659 Oct 4, 2012
SP IT Tech Engineer wrote:
<quoted text>
You seem to think, or at least are trying to make US think, you know something about the law and computer forensics. Let me tell you, YOU ARE WRONG. YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE, AND YOU ARE THE MORON. And YOU sound like an IDIOT!
Name calling already asshole?
SP IT Tech Engineer wrote:
PD needs to give you more training! What Ex NFL Pro stated is pretty much on target. You want to match qualifications? Here are some of mine as of last SP Tech Academy! Can't wait for yours!
Responsible for Operation and Maintenance of Enterprise LAN/WAN Networks in a DOD environment. Maintains security clearance and certifications and follows all applicable DOD/NY State and U.S.Gov ernment policies, standards and regulations. Primarily responsible for maintaining hybrid Layer 3 10GbE Core, layer 2 distribution/access and wireless networks. Designs and integrates solutions into production and test environments. Hands on experience includes: Cisco Nexus 7010 w/distributed fabric, Cisco 6500ís, Cisco 3750X, 3750E, 3750, 2950/40, Cisco 4404 Wireless LAN Controller, Cisco WCS, Cisco 2700 Location Appliance, Cisco 1252AG Wi-Fi Access Points, Cisco Secure ACS, Cisco Works NMS, Cisco Call Manger Express and both Cisco and Nortel IP Phones. Maintains EIGRP Routing tables and HSRP Vlan Interfaces. Developed and implemented SNMPv3 solution for network monitoring using HP Openview and Dartware Intermapper on multiple DOD Networks. Manages Spanning-Tree and VTP to ensure network performance and scalability. Develops and maintains access control lists and manages port security mechanisms to protect and police operating environments. Deployed 20+ Cisco 3750X as part of environment refresh. Monitors all production and research network performance. Evaluates network physical condition via physical tours and remote monitoring of comm. closets with Netbotz remote monitoring pods. Documents equipment moves and changes to the network environment.
Assists coworkers with projects. Assists Entities with projects and engineering/deployment of custom investigative solutions. Provides support directly to other police agencies. Provides open and clear communication to all team members. Maintains strict confidentiality of operational environment. Maintains complete records and direct transfers for criminal and civil court actions, and appears as needed for testimony regarding same. Have made numerous presentations for Grand Jury Proceedings New York State Wide, and also have appeared and testified at U.S. Congressional hearings for U.S. Homeland Security.
Well retard you still haven't explained then, retard how you can "find" anyone who signs into someone else's WifI imbecile. It's called "In the Wind" jackass! Wow how arrogant and "authoritative" you try to sound for someone who can't explain that one. I guess all your ballyhooed "IT Security retard tech guy" schooling just went out the window. What an asshole!

Next, tell me how there are several countries that have truly anon. proxy services that exploit legal intricacies you don't seem to be aware of that make it possible for proxy service providers to legally DUMP their records each night, and they PROUDLY proclaim it?

I sure hope you don't rely on all that flawed, failed super dooper tech-guy wanabee hero "forensics guy" "knowledge" to eat!

If you're saying there's no such thing as internet anonymity and untraceability I suggest you learn about this newfangled thing called "Google" and find out how sadly, PATENTLY, LAUGHABLY wrong you are you ranting name calling moron. Save it to impress the donut eaters! When YOU earn your Masters then try to talk. Until you learn how not to speak in absolutes and end up sounding like a ranting retard every time. You impress no-one, you blow hot air about a very limited area of expertise and frankly are dead wrong.
read a bible

Lansing, MI

#660 Oct 4, 2012
Getting Closer wrote:
The idiot posters is a group of at least a half dozen, most likely college students. Only 2 or possibly 3 are actually posting, the rest in support. They have not mentioned anything regarding OD writeups or local TV stories, so, they obviously are out of the area, or do not have access to local media. There is no such place as Norton,NY.
Norton NY, read a bible and stop smoking crack. Its affecting what little brain you have left.
Youre a joke

Fort Drum, NY

#661 Oct 4, 2012
read a bible wrote:
Jesus hated impurity so much that He told His disciples that they should be willing to pluck out their right eye and cut off their right hand rather than sin with those members (Mt. 5:27-29). Read a Bible, then get a job so working people don't have to pay for the sinners to sit around on topix all day and night.
I was raised in a strict religious home. Church 3 times a week, bible quiz team, trips to revivals and have a 80,000 a year job so think again. You're the freak saying a girl that was just buried today wont go to heave. Unlike any christian i have met. May god show you the error in your ways. Perhaps some religious counseling will help.
fact

United States

#662 Oct 4, 2012
Alex was the one smoking crack! Lol just another new hartford piece of trash! Wow! I'm glad I'm not from that shit hole Town!
read a bible

Lansing, MI

#664 Oct 4, 2012
Youre a joke wrote:
<quoted text>
I was raised in a strict religious home. Church 3 times a week, bible quiz team, trips to revivals and have a 80,000 a year job so think again. You're the freak saying a girl that was just buried today wont go to heave. Unlike any christian i have met. May god show you the error in your ways. Perhaps some religious counseling will help.
Dear Mr Ronald Weinland; please show us scripture which states how having sex outside of marriage gets one into heaven.

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