Herkimer cowboy PD get woman killed

Herkimer cowboy PD get woman killed

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oinker

New York, NY

#1 May 24, 2012
Gung ho cowboy cop from Herkimer goes off on high speed chase and ends with a woman getting killed. Take his badge away.
Put him in prison

Cortland, NY

#2 May 24, 2012
I think it is high time we founded a community advocacy group that engages Albany about the endless police abuses people are subjected to around here. These police are overgrown bullies who do what they want and think nobody can assail them about it. I hope this woman's family sues these rejects so bad that that corrupt substandard ENDLESSLY problematic police agency finally has to sell their fucking office furniture just to pay the damages.
Why is it that other more forward-thinking communities and cities have laws and procedures that FORBID these police chases. Current conventional wisdom indicates that these dangerous police chases actually place innocent people in harm's way more often than not. These police should be charged with criminal reckless endangerment and manslaughter and so should any supervisor who instructed them to continue pressing their luck once they saw that this chase had already exceeded 90mph through the town.
huh

Brooklyn, NY

#3 May 24, 2012
Put him in prison wrote:
I think it is high time we founded a community advocacy group that engages Albany about the endless police abuses people are subjected to around here. These police are overgrown bullies who do what they want and think nobody can assail them about it. I hope this woman's family sues these rejects so bad that that corrupt substandard ENDLESSLY problematic police agency finally has to sell their fucking office furniture just to pay the damages.
Why is it that other more forward-thinking communities and cities have laws and procedures that FORBID these police chases. Current conventional wisdom indicates that these dangerous police chases actually place innocent people in harm's way more often than not. These police should be charged with criminal reckless endangerment and manslaughter and so should any supervisor who instructed them to continue pressing their luck once they saw that this chase had already exceeded 90mph through the town.
You are absolutely right. That woman had absolutely NO fault whatsoever in causing the crash. It's all the cops fault, not hers
Hmmmm

Rome, NY

#4 May 24, 2012
I think it was the fault of the criminal, who broke the law. Police need to enforce the law. People need to obey it. Put the blame where it belongs.......the person breaking the law not the one trying to enforce it.
Yup

Columbia, SC

#6 May 25, 2012
Hmmmm wrote:
I think it was the fault of the criminal, who broke the law. Police need to enforce the law. People need to obey it. Put the blame where it belongs.......the person breaking the law not the one trying to enforce it.
You must just be trying to get people going because there is no way that you can be that stupid!!!!!
Time to end

Cicero, NY

#7 May 25, 2012
Time to end the police state we are in.

No reason for chase
No reason for someone to be killed
Another idiot cowboy who gets a badge and goes beyond what they should do.

I am sick and tired with the police getting away with stupidity and having people being hurt because they think they are cowboy's.
On the mark

New York, NY

#9 May 25, 2012
shack wrote:
<quoted text>Police also need to use common sense,weigh the infraction against the dangers a high speed chase will create. The idiot was speeding. Get his plate number and worry about it later. A woman is dead because some cop insisted on chasing a speeder. Has there ever been a high speed chase that hasn't ended in disaster?
100% correct. All this over a speeding ticket. Cop got the plate number and the vehicle make and model and the witness who jumped out of the car. They easily should have stopped the chase and issued a warrant for the driver. A woman is dead because of cowboy police tactics.

Some say that they heard on the scanner he was ordered to stop chasing and didn't. Smell the lawsuit coming.

BTW, once a suspect is no longer being chased, they tend to slow down so if the pig stopped the chase this woman would be alive today.
LOL

Utica, NY

#10 May 25, 2012
The largest street gang in America strike again.

A woman dead and two others seriously injured, all because the police had to "get their man". Sick.
Sheesh

Cortland, NY

#11 May 25, 2012
shack wrote:
<quoted text>Police also need to use common sense,weigh the infraction against the dangers a high speed chase will create. The idiot was speeding. Get his plate number and worry about it later. A woman is dead because some cop insisted on chasing a speeder. Has there ever been a high speed chase that hasn't ended in disaster?
So true, Sue the stupid cops right into the poorhouse and then sue the con. Both are equally at fault. Why isnt this family asking to have everyone here charged including the idiot cop that forced this outcome? Do these assholes really expect ANY high speed chase to "get better" somehow or suddenly the convict to decide to stop running? I think we should seek support to have laws made forbidding these chases this is so one sided its like ignoring the obvious dounling and continuing of the danger. If this was my daughter or mom id be in albany demanding the police were also charged and dangerous persuits were stopped statewide. 2 wrongs dont somehow make a right just because one of them is a cop. How is it unsafe for ONE guy to speed sown the street but someohow DOUBLING the danger makes things better? Hundreds of people are killed a year getting hit by the running criminals or the cops plow into people like in california where the cops hit like 8 kids a few years back. This is another case of the usual below standard police performance and as is becoming frequent is getting bystanders killed.
wtf

East Haven, CT

#12 May 25, 2012
COWBOY WHEET .......take his badge that woman died cause he wanted to pretend he was in the movies......go to Hollywood cowboy
Judge Dredd

Boston, MA

#13 May 25, 2012
What part of- YOU CANT OUTRUN THE RADIO - don’t you understand??? Yet again... another instance where our local police had to go above and beyond their normal daily routine of patrolling, and somebody dies. That seems to be the norm here in CNY, anything beyond the status quo = unnecessary death.
Couldn’t UPD put up a road block? Did anybody stop to assist the chick that bit the curb? Why didn’t this officer immediately stop and assist the woman that was ejected at the beginning of the chase and radio mutual aid the direction and description of the car and leave it at that? IM SURE THAT WOMAN WOULD HAVE TOLD US WHO THE DRIVER WAS SO THEY COULD CATCH HIM LATER…. But then again when the SWAT team showed up to arrest him later on at his house, they would have managed to shoot down a 747… So I guess culling off an elderly woman is the lesser of those two outcomes.
And had that dumbass officer rolled over his SMALL USELESS VEHICLE (SUV) while in pursuit, cuz apparently a police badge gives you a "+1000 laws of physics exception," everyone would be saying that he’s a hero and there would be ten years  of parades and remembrance days  to his monument of stupidity...
Remember that trooper that wadded up his SUV into a tree while chasing the kid on the motorcycle? The trooper is dead, and the kid is rotting in jail. Because apparently the trooper never thought,“gee ya know what, fuck this kid, we might catch him some other day, I’m not going to speed in this big lumber wagon and exceed the coefficient of friction of the tires and crash, I’m going to call it a day and go home and bang my wife and hug my kids”
Kinda also like…“Ya know what, I’m not going to chase this jewelry thief into the deep dark woods, fuck this guy, I’m going to stay back at my car, radio in my position, wait for backup, maybe roll up the windows with the heat on, and when the K9’s get here, we gonna turn those bitches loose and let them OM NOM NOM NOM on the bad guy, and at the end of it all, I’m gonna go home and bang my wife and hug my kids.”
And also,“I just pulled over these two clowns that robbed a jewelry store in Rome, HOLY SHIT!!!, I ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR VEHICLE STOPPED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD!!!, So instead of going MMA with the driver, which might give the passenger an opportunity to escape with the vehicle, I’m going to use my loudspeaker and command the driver to shut off the vehicle and throw the keys onto the pavement, then make them both hold their hands in the air while the cavalry shows up, so that there are more than enough guys to subdue these two jerks… That way, I don’t need to chase this guy around in the weeds and get shot in the foot, maybe even shot by my own pistol when I exit the car…”
And finally…“My wife is about to give birth, why am I even here? You know what guys, you got all night and even all day tomorrow with this guy, I’m sure he’s gonna fall asleep at some point, so uh, I’m gonna go hang out with my wife and watch my kid be born, hey kielbasa dick, im gonna go hang out with my pregnant wife, you got like 200 other deputies that can take my place, and all my “BROTHERS” feel that I should go home and experience one of the happiest moments in life, so we cool? Dude, I know you got this, you’re wearin the big boy pants now…”
So apparently, the person or persons who come up with the “Psychological Profile” of a police officer candidate, lean toward those who don’t stop and think “…What if…”
And i love how WKTV wrote up the story with that one gem of journalistic nob polishing “At that point, Captain Lincoln says that Wheet didn't know if he was dealing with a kidnapping or any number of serious crimes.“ To try and justify it to us….
Too bad the chase didnt end up in the side of one of the Tankers filling up the Fast Trac next to a schoolbus full of disabled children right as mass let out of St. Peters in North Utica, That would have been the HPD Chase Series winning grand slam…
Judge Dredd

Boston, MA

#14 May 25, 2012
What part of- YOU CANT OUTRUN THE RADIO - don’t you understand??? Yet again... another instance where our local police had to go above and beyond their normal daily routine of patrolling, and somebody dies. That seems to be the norm here in CNY, anything beyond the status quo = unnecessary death.

Couldn’t UPD put up a road block? Did anybody stop to assist the chick that bit the curb? Why didn’t this officer immediately stop and assist the woman that was ejected at the beginning of the chase and radio mutual aid the direction and description of the car and leave it at that? IM SURE THAT WOMAN WOULD HAVE TOLD US WHO THE DRIVER WAS SO THEY COULD CATCH HIM LATER…. But then again when the SWAT team showed up to arrest him later on at his house, they would have managed to shoot down a 747… So I guess culling off an elderly woman is the lesser of those two outcomes.

And had that dumbass officer rolled over his SMALL USELESS VEHICLE (SUV) while in pursuit, cuz apparently a police badge gives you a "+1000 laws of physics exception," everyone would be saying that he’s a hero and there would be ten years  of parades and remembrance days  to his monument of stupidity...

Remember that trooper that wadded up his SUV into a tree while chasing the kid on the motorcycle? The trooper is dead, and the kid is rotting in jail. Because apparently the trooper never thought,“gee ya know what, fuck this kid, we might catch him some other day, I’m not going to speed in this big lumber wagon and exceed the coefficient of friction of the tires and crash, I’m going to call it a day and go home and bang my wife and hug my kids”

Kinda also like…“Ya know what, I’m not going to chase this jewelry thief into the deep dark woods, fuck this guy, I’m going to stay back at my car, radio in my position, wait for backup, maybe roll up the windows with the heat on, and when the K9’s get here, we gonna turn those bitches loose and let them OM NOM NOM NOM on the bad guy, and at the end of it all, I’m gonna go home and bang my wife and hug my kids.”

And also,“I just pulled over these two clowns that robbed a jewelry store in Rome, HOLY SHIT!!!, I ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR VEHICLE STOPPED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD!!!, So instead of going MMA with the driver, which might give the passenger an opportunity to escape with the vehicle, I’m going to use my loudspeaker and command the driver to shut off the vehicle and throw the keys onto the pavement, then make them both hold their hands in the air while the cavalry shows up, so that there are more than enough guys to subdue these two jerks… That way, I don’t need to chase this guy around in the weeds and get shot in the foot, maybe even shot by my own pistol when I exit the car…”

And finally…“My wife is about to give birth, why am I even here? You know what guys, you got all night and even all day tomorrow with this guy, I’m sure he’s gonna fall asleep at some point, so uh, I’m gonna go hang out with my wife and watch my kid be born, hey kielbasa dick, im gonna go hang out with my pregnant wife, you got like 200 other deputies that can take my place, and all my “BROTHERS” feel that I should go home and experience one of the happiest moments in life, so we cool? Dude, I know you got this, you’re wearin the big boy pants now…”

So apparently, the person or persons who come up with the “Psychological Profile” of a police officer candidate, lean toward those who don’t stop and think “…What if…”

And i love how WKTV wrote up the story with that one gem of journalistic nob polishing “At that point, Captain Lincoln says that Wheet didn't know if he was dealing with a kidnapping or any number of serious crimes.“ To try and justify it to us….

Too bad the chase didnt end up in the side of one of the Tankers filling up the Fast Trac next to a schoolbus full of disabled children right as mass let out of St. Peters in North Utica, The would have been the HPD Chase Series winning grand slam…
Judge Dredd

Boston, MA

#15 May 25, 2012
Sorry for double post, stupid topix lag....
lame

New York, NY

#16 May 25, 2012
If he really thought it might have been a kidnapping, why didn't he stop to help the girl when she JUMPED out of the car? She is the driver's girlfriend and the cop never bothered to check on her like he should have and ended the chase.

How could he push her out of the car if she didn't open the door?
Reality

Antwerp, NY

#17 May 25, 2012
It's simple. The cop had the car info and the personal info of both the driver and the woman. Call it in immediately to get the info out to all local police agencies. They flood the area with cruisers and send a couple to the address of the known perp. No need for a high speed chase for something like this! Yes the perp made the decision to initiate the high speed chase...but the cop also made the decision to involve himself instead of doing the smart thing and getting the info out ASAP! This woman should still be alive and this cop should be ashamed of himself! And don't give me the "protect the public" nonsense! The public is lucky more people weren't killed because of this idiot's recklessness and Dirty Harry mentality!
OMG

Cortland, NY

#18 May 25, 2012
OMG!!!!! If I was the parolee OR the cop I would shoot myself over this this is going TOO FAR!!! WHO ALLOWS THESE COPS TO ANTAGONIZE FLEEING CRIMINALS AND GET INNOCENT PEOPLE KILLED!!!WHO LET THE CRIMINAL OUT OR HAVE A CAR??? WTF?!?!
What does that police chief mean 'he didnt kno if he had a kidnapping or something' supposed to justify? So they can SPECULATE and ASSUME in order to justify putting the entire town in trouble? My husband and children are on that road everyday!! Who do we call in Albany to see about stopping these out of control police from just thinking its real smart to stay on some guys bumper doing 90 miles an hour? All this was over some traffic bullszzt that they wanted a fine for no doubt! I am calling Joe Griffo today and if he wont do anything about these out of control cowboys who are killing people now out of get your man mentality I will post it here!! If he says he will not he must be voted out and who else that gets in the way to stop the endless putting people in danger all the rogue cops and free criminals are doing to us!! That could be my kid or brother or sister there things are out of control with the way the government is doing what they please no matter how stupid it is to anyone else.
jody

United States

#19 May 25, 2012
I can't believe that p.o.s. still has his badge. He's a bully and like other jerkimer pd ..an ego maniac. They are trash. Hope the family sues the police department and county for their irresponsible behavior.
Put the cop in jail

Cicero, NY

#20 May 25, 2012
I hope the family sues the Village into bankruotcy.
scent of a woman

New York, NY

#21 May 25, 2012
Hmmmm wrote:
I think it was the fault of the criminal, who broke the law. Police need to enforce the law. People need to obey it. Put the blame where it belongs.......the person breaking the law not the one trying to enforce it.
really This all resulting because someone was speeding in a school zone? A high pursuit chase That killed someone Really!! Cop was100% certain he was a Fellon on chase? He man was convicted of stolen property not murder There was no need for such aggressive behavior on cops part He had plate number he could have been captured at his residence !!
LMAO

Scarborough, ME

#22 May 25, 2012
Judge Dredd wrote:
Sorry for double post, stupid topix lag....
Agreeing 110%. Awesome post.. factual & funny!! Enjoyed reading this!!!

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