You all whine about this place, OIN I guess is what you people call it, but what about Vernon Downs? How can each of you sit here and biotch about the Indians when VD is just as bad? I sometimes wonder if there is a gig between those two places. Up until recently, the VD benefits never called the bonus on the ticket separate from cash. Which means, up until recently, that bonus money was able to be added to the next bonus for added money.
Then read the fine print of the bonus at Turning Stone, says cash, but I am baffled that they want the donation back and you keep the rest. Well on a couple of dollars that appears to be cheap, but when I see people with $50-$100 that, well I can see they want that money.
I do find the place neat,OIN, nicer than VD. There are a few very nice and hard working people at VD but there is one sleezy guy that sends an ominous sense up my spine, very, very bad. He is one of the guards at the door. Right there, turns me off. I would like to know if Saratoga pulls this crap at the door. I want to find out one day. There is another woppy guy that is just as bad, but, this one, something hits bad.
Now, you biotch about the Indians, yes, sure I bet there is a lot of stuff going on there, I see Julian works there and it is too bad Destito got a stranglehold on that place. But, VD is run by the state, why don't YOU people think this state is any better? Cuomo is so highly criminally corrupt, read some articles written in the Post/Daily News/ Albany Times/ an article stating Cuomo was a dangerous man and that THEY KNEW HE HURT THEM, BUT COULD NOT PROVE IT BECAUSE HE WAS A PRO AT COVERING HIS TRACKS. They called him, paraphrasing, a dangerous man! It was in one of those papers, and possibly the one from Long Island, I know the name, cant remember right now, I saved that article, but it would take a while to find it.
Anyhow, how is VD any better? They changed the way they gave out benefits and a few other things, That place is morbid because there isn't enouogh to do and yet if you go with somebody, you're abused at the door for bringing in contraband that is nothing more and short than reading material!
On the whole, the people at VD, customers appear to be trash where as more money or more appearance of proper dress can be seen at OIN.
Remember, the state is controlling VD, how do YOU not think that place is NOT more corrupt? I do have an issue with what they hired. I don't think it was proper to have hired someone from OIN to work the controls there, I think that was very wrong!
If you think OIN is bad, and sometimes I get some strange sensations about the place and yet to figure out what it is, then boycott it. I think it is interesting, and in the final days of my life, I had to pick one it would be OIN that I prefer.
I did get that December card and was disapointed that each ball on all 4 cards were the same, 1.5 instead of 2, 3 or a 4 on at least one out of the four. I don't think I will be around to use them, maybe one, I had thought of scratching the others to see if there were different numbers or where they all 1.5. I was disapointed, then I am used to hurt.
Again, while the state wants to run casinos and there is a lot of dirty corruption at the state level, then why scream about the OIN, VD is a problem at a political level!