pretend to be smart

Utica, NY

#43 Dec 19, 2013
Gotta Love It wrote:
The city was STUPID to settle and could have dragged this out with appeal after appeal if D. Hurd had ruled against them. By dragging this out, we all know the city's credit rating is going to get worse in the future, hence they will be unable to bond, inevitably forcing the city into a predictable bankruptcy.
This deal was organized by the inside power-brokers who saw away to get the money now and get rid of the black cloud at the expense of the tax-payers. Utica had NOTHING to lose by keeping it going! There is little doubt that a protracted trial would have exposed inherent city deficiencies and various levels of incompetence despite the fact you can't stop a would-be killer no matter what protocols are in place.
This is all at the taxpayers expense!!!
Even if the City dragged it out and put themselves into bankruptcy, they would still be liable if this came to a settlement or verdict. Bankruptcy does not protect them from this.

The point of the suit wasn't whether they could have stopped a killer, but whether they actually tried, to which, they did not. They failed to act, and for that, they are liable.
AGREE

Newport, NY

#44 Dec 19, 2013
Spot on wrote:
<quoted text>
Spot on!
The number of boot lickers and badge bunnies judging your comment as nuts and such indicates the number of desk jockey cops hanging out on Topix. It only supports the points you identified.
How many civilians would they allow to get away with the crap Joe did without some type of prosecution? Pulling a gun on high school kids? Multiple calls from the guys wife regarding his mental state? At the very least, HE WAS A DANGER TO HIMSELF AND OTHERS.....Duh.......Isn't there a law on the books for this one? Up until now, they served themselves and protected their jobs and pensions! Doubtful any naysayer could even count to TWO MILLION.
Great leadership

Cleveland, NY

#46 Dec 19, 2013
Nice job Danny Labella for keeping your buddy Joey in check. Destroyed a family and cost the taxpayers millions! You were one hell of a chief buddy!
program

Raleigh, NC

#47 Dec 19, 2013
This guy was gonna do what he wanted no matter what the city or LaBella did. They couldn't put him under watch 24/7 for the rest of his life. Nor should have had to. he was nuts

Since: Dec 13

littlefalls

#48 Dec 19, 2013
program wrote:
This guy was gonna do what he wanted no matter what the city or LaBella did. They couldn't put him under watch 24/7 for the rest of his life. Nor should have had to. he was nuts
That's why he was a scumbag cop!! nuts
pretend to be smart

Utica, NY

#49 Dec 19, 2013
program wrote:
This guy was gonna do what he wanted no matter what the city or LaBella did. They couldn't put him under watch 24/7 for the rest of his life. Nor should have had to. he was nuts
And that was not the gist of the lawsuit. The basis for the lawsuit was what the UPD did or did not do to try to prevent or intervene.
Fact

New Hartford, NY

#51 Dec 19, 2013
Cops can't protect you! Learn to be kind to you your ex-spouse!
Johnson

Utica, NY

#52 Dec 19, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
A settlement represents a mutually agreeable compromise though doesn't it? Something that we don't know convinced the Common Council that it was better to borrow(with interest)$2 million and settle rather than fighting it in court. That says to me that it was the city who thought their defense wasn't strong.
The fact that you said if you were put on the jury you would have voted in favor of the city, before knowing all of the facts says a lot about the validity of your opinion.
You are right about the city not thinking their case was strong. It also says the family was thinking the same thing.
Disgrace

Utica, NY

#53 Dec 19, 2013
program wrote:
This guy was gonna do what he wanted no matter what the city or LaBella did. They couldn't put him under watch 24/7 for the rest of his life. Nor should have had to. he was nuts
True the city nor labella could put Longo under watch 24/7 but the city or labella most certainly could have and should have ordered a complete psychological evaluation by a licenced doctor to evaluate Longo. Conduct a drug test for steroids and other mood altering chemicals for good measure and if the results deem it appropriate then inpatient tx would facilitate a 24/7 observation and treatment. Labella failed roefaro failed city responsible!
evensteven

New Hartford, NY

#54 Dec 19, 2013
Enough on the family who would been dragged all through it again in a trial.
And yes it all fall back on Utica taxpayers!! Utica will "borrow" the funds, then YOU the taxpayer will pay the bill, plus any interest! Same with the other pending lawsuit the one where the dude killed e mom in front of her kid. and cops ignored her pleas for help.
Gina Pearce

East Granby, CT

#55 Dec 19, 2013
Gina Pearce is a Goof!!
Reading Comprehension

Mechanicville, NY

#56 Dec 19, 2013
I love the utica idiots who mark these comments as "nuts" and "disagree" or whatever their peanut sized brains can comprehend. Your police department fu cked up and now you're going to pay the bill. Settled to save the family embassment my a ss. They settled because the want to save their own as ses. When will the typical utican pull their stupid head out of the sand?
reject the settlement

Utica, NY

#59 Dec 19, 2013
Is it possible the judge might reject this settlement like what was done in the Judge rejects settlement in Colorado oil and gas bid-rigging case

Judge rejects settlement in Colorado oil and gas bid-rigging case - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/ci_22211529/judge-r...

Judge rejects Facebook's $20 million settlement in ad lawsuit

Not saying that in Utica, NY one hand DOES wash the other hand, but filing a $100,000,000 million dollar lawsuit and only accepting $2 million I was the judge I would reject this offer and force the court proceedings and as Frank Buck says,'Bring 'em back alive" what if Longo isn't dead and they found a corpse to fill his coffin,

Judge Hurd, I think that is the judges name should reject this offer for a good lawsuit this city must be broken and all pay the price. For those who say the tax payers pay, too bad, most of those tax payers are from The House of Lords, the Subject of Elefante!
boondock saint

Herkimer, NY

#60 Dec 19, 2013
reject the settlement wrote:
Is it possible the judge might reject this settlement like what was done in the Judge rejects settlement in Colorado oil and gas bid-rigging case
Judge rejects settlement in Colorado oil and gas bid-rigging case - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/ci_22211529/judge-r...
Judge rejects Facebook's $20 million settlement in ad lawsuit
Not saying that in Utica, NY one hand DOES wash the other hand, but filing a $100,000,000 million dollar lawsuit and only accepting $2 million I was the judge I would reject this offer and force the court proceedings and as Frank Buck says,'Bring 'em back alive" what if Longo isn't dead and they found a corpse to fill his coffin,
Judge Hurd, I think that is the judges name should reject this offer for a good lawsuit this city must be broken and all pay the price. For those who say the tax payers pay, too bad, most of those tax payers are from The House of Lords, the Subject of Elefante!
Settlement is a done deal as long as both parties agree. Judge has no say in this.

Go play with knives...
Confusing

Galena, OH

#61 Dec 19, 2013
one who knows wrote:
<quoted text>I respectfully disagree (based on many years of legal training).
IMO - the City (represented by LaBella) was 100% responsible for allowing Joe Longo to remain on UPD's workforce as an active policeman. If a private citizen committed all the domestic abuse he did to his entire family, they would have been arrested and spent some time in OCJ. Why was Joe Longo treated any differently. LaBella did NOT earn the right to even be in the position of Chief of Police (political "mishandling by Roefaro) and protected Joe Longo who was a personal friend of his. Many other Officers would have testified that Joe Longo's mental state had deteriorated very rapidly during these family court hearings and he was a "ticking time bomb".
IF this case had ever went before a Jury, this lawsuit would have been awarded MORE than the 2 Million that it was settled for. I know if I was on the Jury, I would have voted for the Plaintiff - NOT the City of Utica!!!! They settled IMO because the City is in a near bankruptcy condition and the City would have had to declare bankruptcy if this case proceeded to a Jury Trial.
Remember the saying "You can't get blood out of a stone"!
I don't understand why he was allowed to be a police officer if he was a threat to one of his family members . This is a reminder that utica is "" sin city "" . I hope the children find strength to leave and move on when they get old enough . I really do I hope they find happiness . Two million is not a lot for the pain , for the city of utica it is
Trouble

Utica, NY

#62 Dec 19, 2013
Whack wrote:
The family deserves every penny. But LaBella and Roefaro should have to pay for it. LaBella is named in his personal capacity and the court has ruled so. The city should have settled their end of the liability and let LaBella go to a jury for himself. They could have done so. But this just made sure that LaBella never has to pay a cent or take any responsibility. And no blaming Roefaro, it is Palmieri that just agreed to pay $2 million to save LaBella's arse.
And I wonder how much Arcuri and his firm were paid to represent the city for a couple of weeks. They simply came in and filed a brief and then said settle for $2 million. A lawyer just out of law school could have done that. The Corp Counsel's office could have done that. So, on both ends of this the same friends and family bunch made money. Only in Utica. Someone ask for the bill to Arcuri and his firm, along with a detailed billing statement. See how much they billed for their BS services.
Your exactly right. Arcuri was paid handsomely for this. How did his firm end up with this contract is what I would like to know. He is the Godfather to LaBella's child. Is there a conflict of interest that should be investigated? I feel so sorry for the residents of Utica having to pay for another lawsuit with their hard earned tax money. Living outside the city and looking in is always a source of entertainment. Go to your next city council meeting and demand to know what the legal fees were to Arcuri's firm and how his firm was able to get the contract. More corruption in one of the most corrupt cities in America. How sad...
I know

Utica, NY

#64 Dec 19, 2013
She should have never let her husband in the house that day if she was scared of him.

He killed her with a knife. Should the city have taken them away from him to too?


Tragic yes. City liable no. Judge Hurd is an ass. Plus, he needs to shave his eyebrows.

one who knows

New Hartford, NY

#65 Dec 19, 2013
covering up a crime wrote:
The police department and Roefaro cover up a crime and the taxpayers is paying the hefty price for living here. Limits makes a good point of why the city isn't insured for atrocities the taxpayers had no hand in. If you get hit by a city vehicle, insurance pays, if
you fall on city property, insurance pays, when the city gets sued, insurance pays, someone sues the police department, insurance pays. So, why if Roefaro nd the police department cover up a murder does the taxpayers have to pay. Roefaro gets immunity and quits and leaves the taxpayers holding the bag. Where is the insurance companies and liability that the city holds when the taxpayers had nothing to do with it. The taxpayers aren't immune or have insurance to pay for this. It didn't happen my property where I have insurance. Something is very fishy where it is the taxpayers who are liable and those who covered it up or were accessories to the crime go scott free. Oh, maybe in a corrupt city called sin city they do but doesn't make it right.
Basically, there is NO INSURANCE Coverage on the City of Utica!!!!!! Another financial mess our great politicians decided that in order to save a few dollars for paying for Liability Insurance, the City of Utica would be self-insured. In other words, any lawsuits would be paid by the City of Utica (a/k/a taxpapers!)for any lawsuits brought against the City.

With Utica's reputation, I personally doubt if any reputable Insurance Company would even want the City of Utica as a policyholder and probably would refuse to even issue a liability polity for them.
one who knows

New Hartford, NY

#66 Dec 19, 2013
I know wrote:
She should have never let her husband in the house that day if she was scared of him.
He killed her with a knife. Should the city have taken them away from him to too?
Tragic yes. City liable no. Judge Hurd is an ass. Plus, he needs to shave his eyebrows.
If I'm not mistaken, Kristen had an Order of Protection against Joe Longo to stay away from the house she was living in. She had just gotten home from a Family Court Hearing where Joe Longo was told how much he was going to have pay ChildSupport, etc. which triggered his final break with reality which resulted in him taking his rage out on Kristen.

IMO - UPD should have put him on Adminstrative Leave and told him to see a psychristic and not let him come back to work until the Doctor verified he was mentally stable - which was NOT done. This is one of the reasons why the City of Utica was liable for Joe Longo's actions which resulted in Kristen and his own death.
what the f

Clinton, NY

#67 Dec 19, 2013
something stinks here ,really stinks and most people on topix and in the coffee shops and and on the street know the smell. It stunk at the chiefs test and everyone knew then and it stinks to high heaven now. People in Utica are to foot the bill for this. For one thing I am glad is that I don't live in that City anymore and have to smell that stink.I would hate to be anyone involved in any way with the decision and the doings of this case. Bad Karma is definitely here. Longos wifes spirit has cursed everyone involved with this . I can believe that for sure.Too bad it has to fall on the innocent taxpayers back.

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