UPD residency rules
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Since: Jan 09

Topicville

#61 May 24, 2010
Yeah but no matter what......any city employee can move where ever they want when they retire....even out of state.

wwhat are u gonna do take their retirement away cause they moved?
tit for tat

Camillus, NY

#62 May 24, 2010
I used to take the civil service exams and wanted to be a cop but forget that now. If I was one of them that was hired 10 years ago and was told I couldn't move now, I'd make sure I moved out after 20 years and would never give a dime to this city again. I imagine a lot of them are thinking that. Let's not cut our nose off to spite our own face. I don't see how we could tell the cops that have always been able to live where they want that they now have to live in the city. Do we wanna piss off a cop that can retire at 43 years old? If he or she lives to 73 years old that is 30 years after retirement. If that cop moves out of the city at 43 years old, that is 30 years of not investing their money into our city.
Justice

Camillus, NY

#63 May 24, 2010
Nobody still has an answer to my question whether or not the newest residency law applies to Utica Firemen?
jerry

United States

#64 May 24, 2010
Justice wrote:
<quoted text>The law everyone voted on stated that it would not affect those hired before Jan. 1, 2009. This means you can't tell them ("grandfathered" officers) where they can or can't move.
if they move after that date it doesnt matter when they were hired they have to move into utica. the big over used term grandfathered in means they dont have to move into utica if they were hired before that date and were living outside out utica at the time. but any move after that date has to be within or into utica. ask lori wrobel down at civil service.
second ask utica if they are making sure this law is even being followed and where documention of address checks that are being done.
jerry

United States

#65 May 24, 2010
Justice wrote:
Nobody still has an answer to my question whether or not the newest residency law applies to Utica Firemen?
no it doesnt. and furthermore this was a law decades ago the city just decided not to follow it
Justice

Camillus, NY

#66 May 25, 2010
Jerry, are kidding me? The residency law doesn't apply to the Utica Firemen? That is despicable! I see what you're saying, but you're wrong about the term "grandfathered." Apparently, Utica has their own meaning of the term "grandfathered" and this may be a major part of the problem.

I'm a Utica resident/taxpayer, who contributes to the salaries and retirement funds of our Police and Firemen. I want all FUTURE Fireman and Police living in the city of Utica. Are we out of our minds? Why is everyone on here not saying we want our Firemen contributing and paying taxes in the city of Utica?

You mentioned Lori Wrobel.....isn't she the one who works in Civil Service at City Hall that is married to a Firemen? That is very interesting! She works next to the mayor.....her husband is a firemen.....the residency law doesn't apply to firemen.....hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Justice

Camillus, NY

#67 May 25, 2010
Jerry, I forgot to thank you for answering my question that everyone seems to be shying away from.....thanks
Utica Dump

Utica, NY

#69 Mar 20, 2013
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot more cops that live in utica start moving out w/ the games the mayor wants to play!
Palmeri

Camillus, NY

#70 Mar 20, 2013
If they won this I will never win the breach of contract issue of show up pay.
Palmeri

Camillus, NY

#71 Mar 20, 2013
I guess that's what's happens when I don't use common sense and try and breach an existing contract. But at least the public will think I'm cool for messing with cops.
IMO

Utica, NY

#72 Mar 20, 2013
If the residency requirement has been updated, I for one think it's great. It was a ridiculous issue. I don't know any officer that I can honestly see altering his job dedication with a change in zip code. They're still coming to work everyday regardless, so people need to stop whining about it.

Level 4

Since: Feb 13

Schenectady, NY

#73 Mar 20, 2013
Why would a utica cop want to live in utica? Why would anyone want to live in utica? No one lives there by choice anymore.
Utica34

Utica, NY

#74 Mar 20, 2013
Yello wrote:
I know of one who just purchased a home in Whitesboro! hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
One super mask is what i need when washing mom, now stench burning my eyes.
Utica34

Utica, NY

#75 Mar 20, 2013
Howard wrote:
The new police chief does not even live in Uica
One super mask is what i need when washing mom, now stench burning my eyes.
Palmeri

Camillus, NY

#78 Mar 20, 2013
We lost by an abortrator because I said I interpreted the law different then was agreed in 2009. Then I tried to put it to a vote when it was already agreed that everyone hired after 2009 were the only ones that had to live I'm this dump. You see I like breaking contracts to please the public that's why I am taking the show up pay and am going to have to pay it back with interest.

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