Holland Patent teacher criticizes Sup...

Holland Patent teacher criticizes Superintendent for not considering...

There are 167 comments on the WSTM-TV Syracuse story from Feb 15, 2013, titled Holland Patent teacher criticizes Superintendent for not considering.... In it, WSTM-TV Syracuse reports that:

Parents and staff of the Holland Patent School District are at odds with the Superintendent's decision not to cancel school after the death of 16-year-old student Anusha Yagey on Tuesday .

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Cny12345678

Mount Airy, MD

#43 Feb 21, 2013
Samantha-welcome back. You're clear proof that evolution doesn't always turn out so good.

Level 1

Since: Feb 13

Utica, NY

#44 Feb 21, 2013
According to the graduates of 08 and 09 no one died in an accident on their way to graduation. Are you sure it was HP because the editor of the Rural Star has never heard of it.
worn out

Cato, NY

#45 Feb 22, 2013
Samantha Rossi wrote:
According to the graduates of 08 and 09 no one died in an accident on their way to graduation. Are you sure it was HP because the editor of the Rural Star has never heard of it.
I did say I wasn't sure how long ago, 4 years is just a guess, it could have been ten years ago, six years ago. I will ask my older daughter later, she will know more about it.
rossi dodo

New York, NY

#46 Feb 22, 2013
utoh wrote:
<quoted text>Wow your thought process is screwed up. First you think it's funny, all it takes is one tragedy to affect people. Would you have felt better if there was more accidents or, God forbid, more deaths to make you say school should have been at least delayed. She's a screw up, and needs to be replaced. One accident or death is one too many. School should have been delayed, would have saved a life and the school would still have been paid for the day.
nobody said it was funny, dummy. The word "funny" was used in ironic context, not "funny" as in comedy. You're as dense as a box of rocks. Point was, there weren't more accidents, evidence that the roads were not as bad as some claim, and further evidence the super made the right call not to cancel school.

Besides that, the tragic accident and death is not a direct result of her actions or inaction and she cannot be removed for it. If you want to cast blame, how about blaming the driver of the car or the DOT? After all, it was the driver who lost control of the car and the DOT who failed to clear the roadway properly. You know, blaming those items that are DIRECTLY responsible for the tragedy. No, its too easy for you to scapegoat this onto the Superintendent who you have a personal vendetta against.
spouting

Manlius, NY

#47 Feb 22, 2013
3 things to remember

Riding the school is safer

Schools need to ban kids from driving to school

Impassable roads are a legal excuse for being absent in NY State.

Level 1

Since: Feb 13

Utica, NY

#48 Feb 22, 2013
worn out wrote:
<quoted text>
I did say I wasn't sure how long ago, 4 years is just a guess, it could have been ten years ago, six years ago. I will ask my older daughter later, she will know more about it.
There was an accident in 1999 where a kid was thrown from the car on Glass Factory. It happened in the fall, his father was hunting. He was the one that found him.
doopy

New York, NY

#49 Feb 22, 2013
3 things to remember
Riding the school is safer-WTF does this mean?
Schools need to ban kids from driving to school-will never happen, ever.
Impassable roads are a legal excuse for being absent in NY State.-t here is no set criteria for "legal" excuses for absences in NYS It varies from district to district.

Level 1

Since: Feb 13

Utica, NY

#50 Feb 22, 2013
rossi dodo wrote:
<quoted text>
nobody said it was funny, dummy. The word "funny" was used in ironic context, not "funny" as in comedy. You're as dense as a box of rocks. Point was, there weren't more accidents, evidence that the roads were not as bad as some claim, and further evidence the super made the right call not to cancel school.
Besides that, the tragic accident and death is not a direct result of her actions or inaction and she cannot be removed for it. If you want to cast blame, how about blaming the driver of the car or the DOT? After all, it was the driver who lost control of the car and the DOT who failed to clear the roadway properly. You know, blaming those items that are DIRECTLY responsible for the tragedy. No, its too easy for you to scapegoat this onto the Superintendent who you have a personal vendetta against.
Barneveld FD : 06:56:28 - 08:01:53 MVA 10660 Route 365, Trenton
Barneveld FD : 07:20:34 - 08:59:24 MVA 7919 Route 12, Trenton
Floyd FD : 07:38:15 - 12:31:27 MVA Route 365, Floyd ... These are the three accidents that happened in the district. There were other accidents that police and fire departments were called out. I picked the ones in the district. You can pull the information from http://www.uticaod.com/blotters/x2082697332/P... . I am blaming a person for the most recent event in a series of events, pay attention.
doopy

New York, NY

#51 Feb 22, 2013
Samantha Rossi wrote:
<quoted text> Barneveld FD : 06:56:28 - 08:01:53 MVA 10660 Route 365, Trenton
Barneveld FD : 07:20:34 - 08:59:24 MVA 7919 Route 12, Trenton
Floyd FD : 07:38:15 - 12:31:27 MVA Route 365, Floyd ... These are the three accidents that happened in the district. There were other accidents that police and fire departments were called out. I picked the ones in the district. You can pull the information from http://www.uticaod.com/blotters/x2082697332/P... . I am blaming a person for the most recent event in a series of events, pay attention.
Yes you are blaming the Super for making it snow. Got it. You still cannot see past your own hatred to realize you are wrong. A sad life you live.
What

Marcy, NY

#52 Feb 22, 2013
doopy wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes you are blaming the Super for making it snow. Got it. You still cannot see past your own hatred to realize you are wrong. A sad life you live.
Yet another person just putting words in everyone's mouth. doopy, where did she ever say she blamed the Super for making it snow?

Do you know how ignorant of a statement that is? Seems all of you against those who are upset do nothing but spew igornant statements.

Really? So you really think someone can blame someone for the weather? And seriously, is that what your take is on all of this?

You, you are the one with the sad life, if that is all you can come up with reading all these posts.

Again, dumb @ss, the majority of us are upset due to the Super not canceling or at the very least delaying school last Monday and Tuesday because of the "weather" and most importantly "the road conditions".

Listen, riding the bus doesn't guarantee safety either. On Monday, when we had the ice storm, my kids bus showed up late to pick them up, close to 15 minutes late...the bus driver told my wife that she slide off the road. Another parent watched their childs bus slide off the road just after picking them up.

So where do you come up with the statement that riding the bus is safer?

Again, the fact of the matter, neither school buses, nor kids who drive to school should have been out on the road on either mornings. Us adults, or those of you who think you are, have no choice. Because correct me if I am wrong, our places of employment do not have snow days, nor the ability to delay or jobs to come in at a safer hour.

Why is this so hard for some of you to comprehend? Why are we the bad guys for being concerned about our children's safety? And why are we not to be even more concerned, that on top of all, there was a life lost.

Yet we are the idiots, right?

Whatever. Keep tossing out stupid statements believing you are some intelligent being on this board...and continue to avoid answering our real concerns and questions. Or better yet, come up with some real answers and not stupid non-related points that don't belong in this argument.
doopy

New York, NY

#53 Feb 22, 2013
What wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet another person just putting words in everyone's mouth. doopy, where did she ever say she blamed the Super for making it snow?
Do you know how ignorant of a statement that is? Seems all of you against those who are upset do nothing but spew igornant statements.
That's my point. It goes to show the idiocy of those blaming the Superintendent for something she had no control over. Why not blame the super for the cattle truck being on that particular road at that particular time? I mean if it wasn't there, they wouldn't have crashed into it.

Face it, you're looking for someone to blame when there is nobody to blame for an unfortunate and unforeseeable accident.

End of story.
FactCheck

Watertown, NY

#54 Feb 22, 2013
Congratulations to Ms. Rossi for calling bs to "Worn Out's" graduation fatality fabrication. As for other accidents in the area that morning, be advised that the OD's 911 list is not all inclusive. I believe the Stittville FD was called out to three motor vehicle accidents between 7 and 8 a.m. that day. Then there was the administrator who slid off the road going up the "High School Hill."
worn out

Cato, NY

#55 Feb 22, 2013
There is no right or wrong answer here, everyone has their view. Some believe that one person should take the blame for one accident. Other's believe that if the teachers and other students made it to school that day, it coudln't have been all that bad.
I do say, that parents should use their better judgement as well. When you know the roads are bad, and the weather, keep the kids home.
I'm not saying that everytime you see a snowflake in the air to keep them home, but use your judgement.
I told my teenagers they can't drive to school, take the bus. I don't pay school taxes for you to spend money on gas to go to and from school, but that's a different story, has nothing to do with the weather, lol.
Most teenagers are not that experienced driving in severe weather. I don't mean any harm by that remark, but it is true.
doopy

New York, NY

#56 Feb 22, 2013
FactCheck wrote:
Congratulations to Ms. Rossi for calling bs to "Worn Out's" graduation fatality fabrication. As for other accidents in the area that morning, be advised that the OD's 911 list is not all inclusive. I believe the Stittville FD was called out to three motor vehicle accidents between 7 and 8 a.m. that day. Then there was the administrator who slid off the road going up the "High School Hill."
actually, they didn't disprove anything. So far, nobody has actually proved anything regarding the supposed graduation accident. About that time every year we hear of teenagers getting killed in an accident so its very plausible it happened, whether or not in the HP school district.

Actually, you cannot go solely off the blotter in the OD. If other departments are called in under Mutual Aid, which happens a lot, the same accident ends up as another call to the other dept. therefore, there can be duplicate calls for the same incident.
worn out

Cato, NY

#57 Feb 22, 2013
Samantha Rossi wrote:
<quoted text> There was an accident in 1999 where a kid was thrown from the car on Glass Factory. It happened in the fall, his father was hunting. He was the one that found him.
My older daughter said that it happened ten or so years ago, my younger said it was more like five.
I googled it, can't find it, the recent accident keeps coming up.
All I know is, it happened, and am truly Worn Out looking for it.
I am sure I will come across someone that does know.
I figured someone in here may have known about it, didn't think I would have to do a background check.
worn out

Cato, NY

#58 Feb 22, 2013
FactCheck wrote:
Congratulations to Ms. Rossi for calling bs to "Worn Out's" graduation fatality fabrication. As for other accidents in the area that morning, be advised that the OD's 911 list is not all inclusive. I believe the Stittville FD was called out to three motor vehicle accidents between 7 and 8 a.m. that day. Then there was the administrator who slid off the road going up the "High School Hill."
I never dreamed that it would come to this argument. If I had known that I couldn't find the info on that, I would have never mentioned it. I thought for sure that someone else would have known that story as well. If you prefer to believe that I made it up, then go for it, if it makes you happy. It doesn't even make sense that I would make up a story, when there are so many similar stories to use as an example.
There are a lot of accidents everyday.
As I said, it was tragic, and my heart goes out to the family.

Level 1

Since: Feb 13

Utica, NY

#59 Feb 22, 2013
I never meant for this to happen when I started looking into the "graduation" accident. I just wanted to know if it truly happened. I just wanted the facts. When everyone I talked to could not remember any such accident, we looked further. We found out about the accident in 1999 on Glass Factory in the fall. I have heard multiple different versions of this story. Many of us graduates are told to drive carefully as if at any second you could be pulled over or could kill someone on graduation weekend. To many of us hearing about an accident on graduation day would be an old wive's tale. A wrong story to make us be careful. I still have people looking into the graduation accident in case it happened before 1999.
truth

New York, NY

#60 Feb 22, 2013
just because you can't find a news article or someone who remembers it, does not mean it did not happen.
worn out

Cato, NY

#61 Feb 22, 2013
Well, even though we have gone way off the topic here, concerning this accident, it is driving me crazy. I too, have people looking it up. So far, I am hearing the same thing, basically.
"yes, I remember that, think it was in 2006"!
"yes, I remember that, think it was in 2000"!
So forth and so on.
One of my neighbors said he thought it was about eight years ago, thought it was HP, but knows it was students from some place up north, he said he thought it was on their way to a graduation party, they were blinded by the sun, went through the stop sign, and at least one person was killed.
I was told that they were on their way to their graduation, so I don't know.
All I know, is it happened, and would have never brought that up if I had known I had nothing to back me up on it.
I understand why someone would think it was fabricated, due to the fact that even I can't find it, but I assure you, I know this happened. Just getting confused as to the facts.
Also, my apologies for this going to this proportion, didn't mean to take away from the topic to this extent, but it's driving me nuts now that I can't find it, and everyone I talk to remembers it, but not to the full extent.

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#62 Feb 22, 2013
I remember something of that story. It was a while back, the kids were blinded by the sun, the car went off the road, and I think it was the driver that got killed. It was up north, but not sure if it was HP, Remsen, or Adirondack. But even so, many accidents have been caused by being blinded by the sun, don't know why someone wanted to jump in and try to make a liar out of someone, but you find one in every crowd.
But, to get to this topic. Do you know how many teenagers go to the mall when schools are closed due to weather conditions? Does this mean they should close the malls? I drive on a lot of bad roads, I have gone to the mall myself when schools were closed, and there are a lot of teenagers there, and it makes me laugh. Sure, the schools are closed, but it doesn't stop these kids from travel. It was a sad situation no doubt, but it was an accident.

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