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Whitesboro Ex-Cons

Medford, MA

#1 Mar 28, 2013
Too bad every time I post the link it gets deleted. Why is that?

Doing more with less: A look at Utica and its finances

UTICA
In 2008, the city of Utica employed 630 people.

Today that number is down to 510.

As budget pressures increase, cities across the state are being squeezed. The mantra: Do more with less when faced with skyrocketing health care and pension costs, poor finances and stagnant economic development.

In Utica, property taxes have risen 20 percent over the last five years, and the budget has gone up while city employment dropped 20 percent.

Theres no question about it, Mayor Robert Palmieri said.We had an $8 million gap; we had used our fund balance, our water trust. There was a day of reckoning.

But how does Utica compare to other similar New York cities, such as Troy, Schenectady and Binghamton? Is the city really doing more with less?

These are difficult questions to answer.

Multiple factors come into play, including state aid, property tax base, pension costs and economic development, said Peter Baynes, executive director of the New York Conference of Mayors.

Every city is unique, he said.Those are drivers in what cities are forced to do. You have to look at pension costs; those are clearly the biggest driver.

Plus, Palmieri said, you cant just look at the cities you must consider their suburbs as well.

Schenectady and Troy both have wealthier surrounding areas, he said.

Utica does not, and the citys employees are generally among the highest paid municipal employees in the Mohawk Valley.

Still, based on similarly sized cities, Utica does provide the same services at a lower cost and with a slightly smaller workforce.

For example:

* In the last five years, Troys budget has risen by nearly $4 million, or 6 percent, while Uticas has only gone up roughly $2 million, or 3 percent.

* Uticas police department employs 14 civilians in a variety of administrative and support positions. Binghamton employs 12, Schenectady employs more than 30.

* The citys pension costs, while enormous, trend slightly less than similarly sized cities.

But none of those statistics make it easier on struggling taxpayers or stressed department heads.

Beyond cuts through attrition or layoffs, Palmieri has refused to fill many positions within city government.

We cross-trained a lot of our employees to do multiple jobs, he said.Everyone is working harder.

Not everyone shares Palmieris viewpoint that the city is accomplishing more with less.

The reality is its difficult to do the same with less, never mind doing more, police Chief Mark Williams said
Whitesboro Ex-Cons

Medford, MA

#2 Mar 28, 2013
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Williams is faced with not being able to fill up to nine vacancies this budget year, potentially leading to service cuts and changing the departments approach from a proactive one to a reactive one.

Were lucky because right now were dealing with a low call volume, he said.Thats going to change once it warms up.

Cities are just treading water

Binghamton, a slightly smaller city, offers an example of what Utica could look like in a few years, having pushed similar cost-cutting measures.

In 2006, the citys fund balance was less than $220,000 and it had seen an average 7 percent tax increase annually for the past five years.

Today its fund balance tops $6 million and it has shed 11 percent of its total workforce under Mayor Matthew Ryan.

The city has used shared services, modernization and consolidation efforts, such as sharing police chiefs with a neighboring suburb, to save taxpayers millions, Ryan said.

We share a police chief and assistant chiefs with Johnson City, he said.That alone saves taxpayers around $100,000 a year.

A large part of that has been working with unions to go along with cuts, Ryan said.

That willingness to work with cities shows that some unions across the state are more willing to make concessions, Baynes said.

I think there are some signs that the unions are realizing that if they dont sit down and negotiate in good faith, theyre going to lose even more employees, he said.

But that alone isnt enough to move cities forward.

According to Baynes, cities have to focus even more on economic development until property tax values and sales taxes pick back up.

Until real estate taxes and economic development activity starts to rally and accelerate, cities are just treading water, if not worse, he said.

Palmieri believes Utica has been forced to take more drastic measures than other cities and cant go much further.

Cutting isnt the answer any longer, he said.We have to be efficient and maintain the level of services people require in order to stimulate economic development. Utica is the area that makes the county grow, he said.
Agree

United States

#3 Mar 29, 2013
The state will be taking over soon.
Fort Prison

United States

#6 Mar 29, 2013
Agree wrote:
The state will be taking over soon.
I'm not sure that would be a good thing. lol
Roger

Syracuse, NY

#7 Mar 29, 2013
Fort Prison wrote:
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I'm not sure that would be a good thing. lol
It helped turn NYC & Troy around.
Fort Prison

United States

#8 Mar 29, 2013
Roger wrote:
<quoted text>
It helped turn NYC & Troy around.
True. I guess then the state could use whatever money they wanted to in Utica.
Besides

Syracuse, NY

#9 Mar 29, 2013
Why would we want to break tradition? Utica is booming!
state help

Herkimer, NY

#10 Mar 29, 2013
Roger wrote:
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It helped turn NYC & Troy around.
I believe the City of Buffalo was also taken over by the state a few years back.
state help

Herkimer, NY

#11 Mar 29, 2013
Fort Prison wrote:
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True. I guess then the state could use whatever money they wanted to in Utica.
The State Control Board has the power and authority to nullify all contracts that are existing for any municipality that they come in to run. Utica might actually benefit by voiding the high costs of the public safety unions' contracts with the City. A Control Board may be the best hope for Utica to wipe the slate clean and start from scratch, instead of kicking the can down the road again and again and again......

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