Why give Welfare Comets grants if the...
Welfare hockey

United States

#22 May 15, 2014
In fact she's a shrink you should hear her going off on jock strap fans! She doesn't need my help lmao!

Utica Lies and Riggies

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#23 May 15, 2014
Utica Lies and Riggies wrote:
I still think that if the comets paid for their own improvements to the aud which they needed to do to start their business would have been better than using public money. Let's examine.
Esche and Duross control the aud. They take grant money to improve the aud for their own personal business to be created...a business that couldn't be created without that grant money.
Now in control of the aud...what else are they doing for the area? Where are all the concerts they promised because of the improved aud? Where are all the trade shows they promised because of the improved aud? Wheres anything but the grant money being used to fund locker rooms, video boards, concession stands a a rinky dink merchandise room that all profits esche and Duross?
They were even trying to deny whitesboro from holding their graduation there. Lol!
Welfare hockey

United States

#24 May 15, 2014
And they sure zipped their holes quick when they embarrassed themselves with that one too.

Since: May 14

Ilion

#25 May 15, 2014
Welfare hockey wrote:
In fact she's a shrink you should hear her going off on jock strap fans! She doesn't need my help lmao!
I can see why you're with a shrink

Utica Lies and Riggies

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#26 May 15, 2014
I just went to the aud site and other than commencements tgey have a build a bike program and something called CNY battleground?

Epic managing by esche and Duross. That grant money was used for nothing but to fund their business. Neither gives a crap about running an efficient or profitable auditorium for that cess pool.
Welfare hockey

United States

#27 May 15, 2014
No you can't.
Welfare hockey

United States

#28 May 15, 2014
Gaggy wrote:
<quoted text>
I can see why you're with a shrink
No you can't.

Anyway I think I will go get a free grant to start a marina so i can tell myself how successful i am before I make one dime!

Since: May 14

Ilion

#29 May 15, 2014
Welfare hockey wrote:
No you can't.
No YOU can't. Everyone else can

Since: May 14

Ilion

#30 May 15, 2014
Utica Lies and Riggies wrote:
I just went to the aud site and other than commencements tgey have a build a bike program and something called CNY battleground?

Epic managing by esche and Duross. That grant money was used for nothing but to fund their business. Neither gives a crap about running an efficient or profitable auditorium for that cess pool.
Has there been a 'straw poll' of surrounding businesses to see if there has been an impact either positive or negative that you are aware of? I hate the opinion arguments, nobody gets anywhere with that.(Smitty)

Utica Lies and Riggies

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#31 May 15, 2014
Gaggy wrote:
<quoted text>
Has there been a 'straw poll' of surrounding businesses to see if there has been an impact either positive or negative that you are aware of? I hate the opinion arguments, nobody gets anywhere with that.(Smitty)
Most uticans think a poll is something they burn down at the super duper exclusive Val bialis ski resort complex. What I'm focused on here is why this epic "man agent team" is marketing or sold this mega super duper revitalized aud like they said they would. All that grant money did was allow them to create their own business. That's it.

Utica Lies and Riggies

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#33 May 15, 2014
dead wrong wrote:
<quoted text>. Esche and duross have no access to that money. Company's bid on jobs, they are awarded normally to the lowest bid but not always. When the work is being done, utica codes comes and inspects and signs off on the work as its done. When completed the state comes and inspects and signs off. Then and only then does the state pay directly to the contractors. If you think the state gave Esche and duross 2 million to spend as they wished then you really have no clue how these things work..... Obviously usmail underbid everyone so that money would be available for other items..... Esche was in the building fixing and painting with all the other volunteer help to save money......
Buzz. Try again.

Since: May 14

Ilion

#34 May 15, 2014
Utica Lies and Riggies wrote:
<quoted text>Most uticans think a poll is something they burn down at the super duper exclusive Val bialis ski resort complex. What I'm focused on here is why this epic "man agent team" is marketing or sold this mega super duper revitalized aud like they said they would. All that grant money did was allow them to create their own business. That's it.
It would seem that there would be stipulations that come with the grant. Most grant requests are very specific in nature. I worked with a couple non-profit organizations on a far smaller scale but even with them the grant requests had to contain very specific language. I'm not sure what happens after they get the money but knowing the government they would just love to catch someone doing something wrong so they can fine them
Yup

Rome, NY

#35 May 15, 2014
Welfare hockey wrote:
<quoted text>Well I wouldn't waste it on something 2% of the population thinks is relevant besides that's not the point I have a real career. Now please back up and prove to me the Comets bring all these crowds to Utica business? So far they're still well in the hole. You have serious problems a bunch of queers skating around do little to address this.
Are they going to pay that loan back BTW? No.
I doubt it they need more money already. Welfare.... hockey....
What loan are you referring to??

Utica Lies and Riggies

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#36 May 15, 2014
Gaggy wrote:
<quoted text>
It would seem that there would be stipulations that come with the grant. Most grant requests are very specific in nature. I worked with a couple non-profit organizations on a far smaller scale but even with them the grant requests had to contain very specific language. I'm not sure what happens after they get the money but knowing the government they would just love to catch someone doing something wrong so they can fine them
I just find it very ironic that the people that did the work on the aud are friends or family with esche or Duross. Too many coincidences.
utica is a dump

Schenectady, NY

#37 May 15, 2014
Utica Lies and Riggies wrote:
I still think that if the comets paid for their own improvements to the aud which they needed to do to start their business would have been better than using public money. Let's examine.
Esche and Duross control the aud. They take grant money to improve the aud for their own personal business to be created...a business that couldn't be created without that grant money.
Now in control of the aud...what else are they doing for the area? Where are all the concerts they promised because of the improved aud? Where are all the trade shows they promised because of the improved aud? Wheres anything but the grant money being used to fund locker rooms, video boards, concession stands a a rinky dink merchandise room that all profits esche and Duross?
well common sense should tell you that is they were planning major improvments to the building that they would not be booking the building with events all summer.........you do have common sense don't you??????????

Since: May 14

Ilion

#40 May 15, 2014
Utica Lies and Riggies wrote:
<quoted text>I just find it very ironic that the people that did the work on the aud are friends or family with esche or Duross. Too many coincidences.
I've seen people hand over quotes from competitors so 'friends/relatives'can win the business. That's why there are sealed bids. Don't have any idea about what happened here

Utica Lies and Riggies

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#41 May 15, 2014
utica is a dump wrote:
<quoted text> well common sense should tell you that is they were planning major improvments to the building that they would not be booking the building with events all summer.........you do have common sense don't you??????????
Well the improvements won't be happening and they do have two minor events. One in June I believe and one in July. Perhaps it's may and June. Anyways...great management skills by esche and Duross. They seem to really be fulfilling their promises. Also, that aud sits empty summers in general anyhow. What has changed? Zilch. These guys took that money to fund the opportunity for their own gain and once the Canucks leave you'll have two wonderful video boards and a couple of extra hockey locker rooms to look at. It's a shame what people get away with in that region and the citizens just bury their heads and take it up the pooper each and every time.

Utica Lies and Riggies

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#42 May 15, 2014
Gaggy wrote:
<quoted text>
I've seen people hand over quotes from competitors so 'friends/relatives'can win the business. That's why there are sealed bids. Don't have any idea about what happened here
Everyone knows what happened. A person would have to be naive not to.
Nothing new

United States

#43 May 15, 2014
They're just criminal scum ripping people off and lying about what they do. Another mega claim of greatness from welfare people. Just wow.
Welfare hockey

United States

#44 May 15, 2014
Amazing they can't afford their own bills but expect people to keep wasting money on that garbage? Then they run around telling everyone they are "successful!!!"
That's about a leech phony for yas.

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