Who is Utica Worse Attorney

[Josh]

Everyone has forgot the most corrupt weasel of all. Mark Jonas. He will take huge retainers and once the check clears shit all over you. His staff are rude snots that look down their noses at you and his wife struts around telling everyone who she is. Mark by far is the most corrupt one not only in this area but in the state. And he is a rotten person to boot.

[Juris Prude]

Here's a helpful resource if you're that concerned about the fox guarding the hen house! This is Oneida County - all is well!

http://www.oneidacountybar.org/site/media/201...

[I see dum people]

A good lawyer knows the law, a great lawyer knows the judge.

[worn out]

I see dum people wrote:

A good lawyer knows the law, a great lawyer knows the judge.

That's true, knowing the judge holds a lot of weight, the bad news is, if the judge doesn't like a particular lawyer, he could make it difficult, lol

[I see dum people]

worn out wrote:

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That's true, knowing the judge holds a lot of weight, the bad news is, if the judge doesn't like a particular lawyer, he could make it difficult, lol

that is why Les and Mark have so much trouble in court. Not many judges can stand them. They are great in PI cases though, at least the ones that are easy to prove like dog bites, slips and falls, and car accidents.

[Ur Not Kidding]

Benny wrote:

Armand Festine!!! Just a Klutz?

I totally agree, Festine is as dishonest and corrupt as they come. He tries to overcome his ineptitude by lying and unscrupulous behavior. Totally a loser and a weasel. Stay away from this guy he is a prime example of why lawyers get such a bad rap.

[NotSure]

Who are te other lawyers with borrill building? Drew ward used to be there. I know dANiels is now.

[Just Remember]

As the late great Thurgood Marshall once stated"The difference between a Doctor and a Lawyer is that Doctors get to bury their mistakes."

[Old friend]

George Murad is a good guy. So is deep. How giruzzu sucks

[Divorced and Broke]

I see dum people wrote:

A good lawyer knows the law, a great lawyer knows the judge.

Norman Deep must be great then.

[Divorced and Broke]

Old friend wrote:

George Murad is a good guy. So is deep. How giruzzu sucks

I'm not talking about playing golf or slopping up booze. I'm talking about what you get for your money. Not much.

[Sunshine]

The suspended wrote:

You can eliminate the lawyers who have been suspended before, which are
John Petrone
Lori Petrone Fink
Joseph Hobika Jr.
Donald Keinz
Robert Calli.(Revoked License)
Staying clear of these lawyers and their unethical acts is a good place to start eliminarting who you are going to use.

Leon Koziol! LOL REVOKED!

[Utica]

Too many attorneys . Too many "gangsters". No money.

[Fellow NY Mills Alumni]

Sunshine wrote:

<quoted text>Leon Koziol! LOL REVOKED!

Penalty box time served well over 2 years ago. Reinstatement committee playing games and not sure how to proceed after concocting unsubstantiated nonsense courtesy of his former pretend lawyer secretary who claimed to have the goods when making her plea deal several years ago. Big mess. Backfired on those in power who made deal with her before recent arrest. No one wants to take ownership! Total inside job!

[Old friend]

Maybe divorced and broke was a hopeless case who was not a great parent or spouse and therefor hard to represent. Or perhaps all they cared about was money and not their kids. Sounds like sour grapes or someone who has no clue what good representation costs

[Right to Know]

Armand Festine has never won a case in his entire 30 year career! Look it up ?

[Maurice Chiecs]

Looking at the list of the suspended, revoked, disgraced attorneys in Utica one thought occurs. How reliable is any business, let alone a law office, if it doesnt meet its obligations financially...week after week after week? Really, if you can't make payroll, pay any of your taxes (payroll or otherwise), maintain workers compensation insurance, pay your health insurance premiums or even keep your utilities current then why represent yourselves as a reliable, responsible law office that people can bring their "problems" too?

I guess the real barometer of a law firn's integrity and overall health is how much money the partners have to pay accountants and other lawyers each year to defend their misconduct and other extracurricular activities.

The other question as to the disgraced list of locals is why do the associates in these firms stay with these firms? I guess the quick answer is money. Sad. I bet your parents would have chosen a higher road to comfort and security.

[not surprised]

Maurice Chiecs wrote:

Looking at the list of the suspended, revoked, disgraced attorneys in Utica one thought occurs. How reliable is any business, let alone a law office, if it doesnt meet its obligations financially...week after week after week? Really, if you can't make payroll, pay any of your taxes (payroll or otherwise), maintain workers compensation insurance, pay your health insurance premiums or even keep your utilities current then why represent yourselves as a reliable, responsible law office that people can bring their "problems" too?

I guess the real barometer of a law firn's integrity and overall health is how much money the partners have to pay accountants and other lawyers each year to defend their misconduct and other extracurricular activities.

The other question as to the disgraced list of locals is why do the associates in these firms stay with these firms? I guess the quick answer is money. Sad. I bet your parents would have chosen a higher road to comfort and security.

The money is no longer what it once was here in Utica. It's dried up and yes, the cost of doing business, paying back law school loans, health care costs and trying to turn an above average profit are all nearly impossible. Add increased competition and a cut throat environment and forget it. The profession polices itself with peers who often sit in a self-serving position. Money and politics go hand in hand. Criticizing the profession from within and exposing it's dirty little secrets is a sure way to experience retaliation and career black mail by those in power who often operate in a covert like manner. In recent years like many other professions, it's gotten worse. Look at the family court. It's become a breeding ground for parasite lawyers seeking a quick buck. As the economy worsens, domestic problems tend to rise. Utica's finest are right there looking at ways to escalate controversy. They'll never admit it, but it's clearly obvious. Not all, but a handful are making a great living from this faucet. Try filing a complaint and you'll be lucky if the peers admonish the lawyer. Most have the goods on each other so a quick phone call gets it resolved. Yep, I could go on but guess you'll all have to see for yourself. Enjoy the circus, just pay better attention to the sideshow!

[agree]

Too Short For Sidebar wrote:

Well measured posts above.

Correct me if I'm wrong though, each and every lawyer on the list of lawyers above who have been suspended, with the possible exception of Koziol, was born with a sterling silver spoon in their mouth.

Bob Calli, Joey Hobika, the Petrone brother and sister never had a dime in debt for law school or anything else for that matter. They were well taken care of by their dads who put in the work!

The 50 somethings listed sure have debt now though don't they? Why? well, for starters none of them are very bright outside the paths that were paved for them by their hard working Fathers.

It's the way of the people on the list above. Spend WAY more than you earn or are even capable of earning, play big shot on a daily basis to keep up your phony appearance and worry about the consequences when and if they come.

You reap what you sew. These people reap only what they owe!

Great points. Always thought Koziol was kind of like the outsider who exposed many of their shortcomings. Well we all saw how that worked out and what happened when he took on the good old boys club and didn't play by their rules. For as smart of a guy as he is, I guess his downfall was not playing politics. It's a lesson to be learned. Challenge those in power and high places who preside over committees etc, and you'll be left in limbo. He's kinda of like Utica's version of Chris Dorner. Just hope it doesn't have to go that far for him and children's sake. Met him a few months ago and found him to be a likable guy who marches to his own drum beat. Not a bad thing, just doesn't go over well where corruption has continuously prevailed.

[Broke]

The worst is the walking cadaver, Richard Wolfe.