Let's all get over Utica and move on
Posted in the Utica Forum
#1 Dec 18, 2008
Utica is a GHETTO! That's all there is to it. End of story. Anybody who wasn't from this area would only have to drive through Utica to know that it has all the trappings of a ghetto: shabby houses, soaring unemployment, a tanking economy, failing schools, social service agencies on every block, etc.
I think people (like us) get mad because there are a lot of local Joes around here who have lived here so long that they are immune and blind to Utica's blight and problems. These local Joes (a lot of them are Northies, Southies and New Hartford/Clinton people) try to convince all the naysayers that Utica has a lot to offer. They talk about Utica as if it has potential, they talk about the rich local history and the fact that it has an art museum and colleges, etc.
We all know better and get mad when these local Joes like to talk about Utica as if it were the Holy See.
But can't we all just get over ourselves and move on with our lives. Utica is a dead former factory city slumped over the steering wheel of an old Cadillac with a crack pipe in its hand and bullet in its head. Period. No more trying to milk anything else from its skeleton. Let's try to leave it behind us and move on with our lives. We have better things to do than go to Utica Topix all day and beat our brains about this stuff.
Let's all take one last drive through Utica and say goodbye to it for good.
#3 Dec 18, 2008
#4 Dec 18, 2008
This place is a one big toilet just waiting to be flushed. Im moving south this place can suck your life away if youre not careful. You can be 45 stuggling away still with a crappy office job and thats the best you can hope for here. Do you and your family a favor and move OUT OF UTICA! Now we have all these new taxes???? ON TOP of the most taxes citizens of the USA? This whole state can below me.
#5 Dec 18, 2008
struggling, yes I know
#6 Dec 18, 2008
The welfare people will still get their checks every month Sam. Do you think the government is garnishing your wages and giving it directly to the people on Court Street? No. The government garnishes everybody's wage and it goes into a big piggy bank in Washington, DC. From there it is doled out to the states. Your state taxes have to go to Albany (or NYC) before they arrive to your Oneida Square neighbors.
You could move to Virginia and I bet a few dollars of your garnished income would still find its way back to Utica somehow. You can rest assured that the welfare people in Utica will be taken care of even if everybody with a job jumped ship and left the Mohawk Valley.
#7 Dec 18, 2008
and taxed, lol wow i was angry, as we all should be. This government is ridiculous.
#8 Dec 18, 2008
There should be a local fund for people who want to leave but can't afford to. This area screws everybody. It can do us all a favor by paying our moving expenses. That's the least the Mohawk Valley owes us. I know this would mean more taxes but f- them.
#9 Dec 18, 2008
I had lived there for 21 years & have since lived all over upstate NY (Buffalo, Albany, & Syracuse), as well as CT, & now FL.
While it is healthy to envision yourself outside or beyond the place that you grew up, once you leave you can never truly go home.
The people who left Utica are nostalgic for the past - the place they idealize & remember so fondly (people, places, memories, etc).
While those who never left (not a negative comment by the way, its quite admirable to make roots & make one place your home); cannot imagine another place to be.
My family is there & spread throughout the US.
Utica is a great place to be from - you can only ever truly appreciate it once you've left.
p.s.- FL is hard to beat too.
#11 Dec 18, 2008
i'd like to assemble magnets. probably not worth it though with the new "magnet assembly tax".
#12 Dec 18, 2008
I've seen you post a couple of times, and you've even posted names of people I know. I'm dying to figure out who you are. I probably know you. Hell, I probably sat next to you in class. In the spirit of an anonymous board, I'm not going to ask your name, but keep posting, and I will keep guessing.
#13 Dec 18, 2008
Hey Curious - it's a deal, but a million to one odds that you'll never guess. If you do, I'll be very impressed.
I'll drop a few more names for you, just to pique your interest a bit more (assuming you're an ex-N.Utica person too; perhaps not).
Here's a quick hitter for some of my old N.Utica peeps (I could make a list of maybe 1000 names, but these came to me pretty quickly).
I could do a bigger Proctor, Notre Dame, & UFA list.
Heidi, Pete, & Patti Pimpinella
Mike & Bob Cerminaro
Larry & Pat Fiore
John & Mike Dodge
Mike & Tony DeSantis
Steve & Ken Gotte
Ziggarelli's (all 10,000 of them)
Casey & Hope Stuckman
Jack & Lori Demma
Carlene & Jack Sitts
Michelle & Sig Greco
Rick & Brian Krantz
Dave & Dawn Gusky
Mary Sue Vance
Now that's a list!!!!
#14 Dec 18, 2008
A list of what....who are these people. What is the point of this whole thing? Are you working on a class reunion?
#15 Dec 18, 2008
You're better off staying in Georgia and dreaming of the Utica of your youth. Utica is in complete meltdown mode right now. And I don't just mean because of the way the rest of the nation's economy is in the slumps. It is very bad here: trash in the roads, boarded up drug 'hoods, lines snaking around the corner at every social service agency in town. What a waste!
Maybe Utica was once like New Hartford, but now it is a dumping place for third world peasants, ex-cons, sex offenders, mongoloids, crazies, senile elderly people and all other kinds of riff raff. I don't know why the city is even still standing with the way it has been trashed by the local ruffians (and the weather) who now make it their home.
The white collar workers in Utica are a joke also. Just a bunch of guys named Frank with mustaches and funny axe-sents who look more like plumbers than people who use their brains to do anything other than make up fart jokes. Most of these guys didn't even go to school either. The insurance companies and banks in Utica are more like family owned mom-and-pop operations. If your cousin has a high level job at one of these places that's all one needs to get their foot in the door.
It's really sad. I bet Georgia must be paradise compared to U-T-hole.
#16 Dec 18, 2008
From your list, here are the ones I know:
Lou Zamellio (did he have a younger sister?)
Steve & Ken Gotte (I don't know them, but any relation to a Michelle Gotte(i)??? I knew a Michelle Gotte in school)
Tom Yaccovella - any relation to an Amy?? My sister had a friend named Amy Yaccovella.
Ziggarelli's (all 10,000 of them)- of course I know many.
Michelle & Sig Greco - Sounds so familiar. Maybe I know Michelle Greco??
By the way, I grew up in North Utica. Went to Seymour, Kennedy, UFA, then moved away before graduation.
For those who don't understand what's going on, I posted to Happy Longo that I might know who him, and I will keep guessing until I figure it out. The idea is, he will keep posting names and I will try to match up with people I know to see if we are in the same circle of people. Kind of like "6 degrees of separation", North Utica style.
#17 Dec 18, 2008
Now that's a classic - 6 degrees of N Utica separation, I like it.
Nah, Lou had no sister, one brother
Ken & Steve the same, no other siblings
Yep - Tom and Amy were siblings
Okay, so you're Seymour, JFK, & UFA.
I was Seymour, JFK, & Notre Dame.
I need a clue from you......maybe I'll crack your identity first, before you get mine.
Give me your 3 street radius of your old hangout/home, like for example:
Elmdale Ave, Oakdale Ave, Mapledale Ave
Elmwood Rd, Holy Dr, Tryon Rd
Jeanette Dr, Lee Blvd, Deland Dr
#18 Dec 19, 2008
Hmmm... My house was too conveniently located, so it will be tough to tell you without giving it away.
I was between Herkimer Rd and Deerfield Dr East, but closer to Herkimer. From my house I could walk to both Chicago Market and JFK.
#19 Dec 19, 2008
Here's a few names that I know, mostly from Seymour/JFK:
Eric Gibelaro (sp?)
??? Mesa (can't remember his first name)
Holy cow... I didn't realize I could remember all those!
#20 Dec 19, 2008
No kidding - I have no doubt we'd know each other. I'm gonna stew on it for a bit & come back with my guess later on today.
#21 Dec 19, 2008
Alright, not ready to guess the identity yet, but am willing to say that I think you lived on Larchmont Ave (or maybe Van Renssalaer).......nah, going with Larchmont.
How'd I do?
If I am right, I think I have the name too. We'll see.
You got the wheels turning in my head now.
#22 Dec 19, 2008
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