Utica National "terminations"

Utica National "terminations"

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Sure Thing

Utica, NY

#1 Dec 24, 2010
Sounds like they are using internet usage, emails, and instant messages as an excuse to get rid of people and downsize! Merry freaking Christmas!
Can ned

Utica, NY

#2 Dec 26, 2010
Sounds about right
local

Utica, NY

#3 Dec 27, 2010
they're looking at personal phone calls, too. Lots of people written up lately.
Bah

United States

#4 Dec 27, 2010
If people are breaking the rules, how is Utica national making excuses to fire them?
If they are chatting on the phone all day and going on topix.com , how is that beneficial to the company...

Stop trolling OP.
Butcher

Hancock, NY

#5 Dec 28, 2010
Just a excuse for an employer to trim the fat... I did know someone who worked there and was scared to death to use her uticanational email for personal use.. I knew of another employer who after hours when employees went home used to go from computer to computer viewing internet history and favorites saved.

Delete your history and cookies at the end of the day people.
Rosie

United States

#6 Dec 28, 2010
Utica National has had a "big brother" spy system since at least the 80s. Reports would be printed out and given to the supervisors and such. Employees were spoken to about their phone calls. So if they applied those methods back then just imagine what's going on now.
Jane

Utica, NY

#7 Dec 28, 2010
Your not suppose to use company e-mail for personal use! Why not just do your job then you don't have to worry....
just me

West Leyden, NY

#8 Dec 28, 2010
all companies watch what sites you go on everyday. No company wants to see their employees surfing video sites and game sites all day while on company time. If you want to get paid to do nothing they should be working at a grocery store or stocking shelves.
Personal Lines

AOL

#9 Dec 28, 2010
Don't think for 1 minute Mike A isn't watching this site!
bippity

Utica, NY

#10 Jan 1, 2011
He's probably on right now!
too funnny

Rome, NY

#12 Jan 1, 2011
So you are all saying that if you ran a company, you wouldn't care if you paid your employees for less then the 8 hours they worked or if they spend the day surfing the internet or checking their personal emails?

Utica National employees make very good money and the majority got hired cause of who they know not what they know. Nobody there has the ability to whine about getting in trouble for goofing around on company time. Time for them to get in the real world.
Well how unfair

Utica, NY

#13 Jan 1, 2011
How unfair of them to expect that employees come to work on time, actually work, don't use company resources for personal use and don't leave early. Why the nerve of them.
teddy

Ithaca, NY

#14 Jan 1, 2011
Jane wrote:
Your not suppose to use company e-mail for personal use! Why not just do your job then you don't have to worry....
Exactly
Obvious

New Hartford, NY

#15 Jan 2, 2011
From an outsider's perspective, I have to say, some of the attitudes in these posts are just disgusting.

The economy's in tatters, jobs are scarce, particularly in this area, and qualified people--who would work hard--are fighting to get hired.

And here people are complaining that they're being monitored by their employer. Not monitored while they're using the restroom, mind you. Monitored as to how they're goofing off at their jobs. Where exactly is the injustice in that? I'll tell you---it's that YOU are goofing off at your job, while getting paid, and YOU think that the guy checking up on your incompetence is the bad guy.

I'm quite sure that some qualified but jobless person probably throws his shoe at the computer screen when he reads garbage like that.

You're lucky to even be working.
Let Me Tell U

Utica, NY

#17 Jan 2, 2011
Obvious wrote:
From an outsider's perspective, I have to say, some of the attitudes in these posts are just disgusting.
The economy's in tatters, jobs are scarce, particularly in this area, and qualified people--who would work hard--are fighting to get hired.
And here people are complaining that they're being monitored by their employer. Not monitored while they're using the restroom, mind you. Monitored as to how they're goofing off at their jobs. Where exactly is the injustice in that? I'll tell you---it's that YOU are goofing off at your job, while getting paid, and YOU think that the guy checking up on your incompetence is the bad guy.
I'm quite sure that some qualified but jobless person probably throws his shoe at the computer screen when he reads garbage like that.
You're lucky to even be working.
You wanna talk about employee 'monitoring'? Work at Verizon! That goes on on a daily basis. The ppl that work in the entry level field.......they are timed when they go to the washroom. They have to watch for a light to go on to tell them (1-at-a-time) when they can go! You have no idea how good u have it!!!!
Just Saying

AOL

#18 Jan 3, 2011
Obvious wrote:
From an outsider's perspective, I have to say, some of the attitudes in these posts are just disgusting.
The economy's in tatters, jobs are scarce, particularly in this area, and qualified people--who would work hard--are fighting to get hired.
And here people are complaining that they're being monitored by their employer. Not monitored while they're using the restroom, mind you. Monitored as to how they're goofing off at their jobs. Where exactly is the injustice in that? I'll tell you---it's that YOU are goofing off at your job, while getting paid, and YOU think that the guy checking up on your incompetence is the bad guy.
I'm quite sure that some qualified but jobless person probably throws his shoe at the computer screen when he reads garbage like that.
You're lucky to even be working.
As a matter of fact I was monitored on how long I was in the bathroom by having to sign in and out at my bosses cube. And before you go off, I am a salaried employee working 10 hours of mandatory uncompensated overtime each week. When HR was contacted they did nothing because the woman in charge of employee relations is an idiot that never helped anyone. And how about when they recently went from a 35 hour work week to a 40 hour week with no adjustments made to salaries. That's right, emploees were expected to "donate" 5 hours to the company while still being required to work uncompensated overtime. And without even a thank you which would have meant a LOT to most of us. And some of this resentment is because we are treated like cattle, our bosses never work a full week, talk on the phone constantly on personal calls and take 2 hour lunchs (not business but sometime monkey business and sometimes with other employees) and blatently play favorites and not with the best workers.

So you are correct, most of the people stay because jobs are hard to come by. But when you work 10-12 hour days, you should be able to check on your kids after school, touch base with your spouse etc.

I guessing some of these critics are infact the middle and top managment that the rules don't apply to. They are sitting on a powder keg because they treat the workers like slaves and think the only thanks they need to give comes in a paycheck. If jobs ever come to the area (remember the Bank of NY debacle) look out that you don't get crushed in the stampeed out of here.

Amen.
Home Office

AOL

#19 Jan 3, 2011
You mention being able to 'check on your kids after school, touch base with your spouse, etc........"

Ok. You do this on YOUR breaks/lunches.

End of story.
In the Know

AOL

#21 Jan 4, 2011
Home Office wrote:
You mention being able to 'check on your kids after school, touch base with your spouse, etc........"
Ok. You do this on YOUR breaks/lunches.
End of story.
They did away with breaks a long time ago. Now you drink coffee at your desk while working. Lunch is only 30 minutes and too early to make plans when you are told you are staying late or to check on kids after school. Dream on. Its a sweatshop.
just tired

Syracuse, NY

#22 Jan 4, 2011
If you don't work at Utica National, shut up you don't know what your talking about. If you do work there and it sucks so bad, quit and work at one of the other great jobs in Oneida County that pay as well, provide good benefits and a decent work environment. Oh that's right, there aren't any.
Try working in a county or state job where salaries are being frozen or cut and now their going to try to reduce our pensions and medical. You don't know what bad is.

Since: Jul 10

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#23 Jan 4, 2011
Gee, I’m not sure where to begin… the gripers on Topix have got so much wrong… including how long you get for lunch at Utica National and how long the work week is.

“Long Time Utican” as usual has a unique, decades-past take on things:“As far as pay goes, Utica National's pay range is way below other Insurance Companies in the area.”
**Wrong.** Fact is that we do extensive compensation research both nationally and locally. Yes, I’ve heard tales of other companies paying outrageous amounts to get our underwriters. We can’t win them all but we do actively monitor the marketplace and keep our salaries competitive.

Not sure how an employer “limits your own personal privacy”… if you mean by not allowing unlimited personal use of our email and internet on company time and dime,
**Fact is** that’s pretty common any where. More facts -- we have a cyber café in the cafeteria in our New Hartford office with PCs provided at co. expense, where people can go on-line through Time Warner, also at co. expense, on their lunch break, and before or after work. No one looks at that.

“Just Saying” wrote about his or her bathroom breaks being “monitored” and seems to want to imply that our practice is to have people sign in and out at the boss’s desk for potty breaks.**Wrong.** I don't know Just Saying's bathroom habits, but I don't know of any place in the company where you have to go to your boss and sign out for the bathroom. That is not our practice.

Also, that salaried employees work “10 hours of mandatory uncompensated overtime each week,” the implication seemingly being that this is a standing requirement for everyone on salary.
**Incorrect.** First, if you’re hourly, you get OT. If you’re salaried, you get... a salary, and work the hours necessary to get the job done. Yes, that may mean a few more hours at certain times – many salaried employees have to put in mandatory overtime at different times of the year in order to get the work done during peak times and the like. But it’s not a standing 10-hour requirement year-round.

Also, that we “recently went from a 35 hour work week to a 40 hour week.”
**Incorrect.** We work a 38.75 work-week (for quite a while now) while most of our competitors work a 40-hour week.(Small difference? Not really. Over the course of a year, the 40-hour week adds up to 65 hours -- more than a week and a half -- more than our people who only work the 38.75 hours, for the same pay. If someone has a gripe, I think it’s the people working at the other companies.)

”When you work 10-12 hour days, you should be able to check on your kids after school, touch base with your spouse etc.”– the implication again being that 10-12 hour days are the norm here, and that we don’t let you call home.
**Wrong.** Of course you can check on your kids or call the spouse, within reason, of course. We encourage it. Ask HR.

“In the Know” wrote:“Lunch is only 30 minutes and too early to make plans when you are told you are staying late or to check on kids. Dream on. Its a sweatshop.”
**Wrong.** Do you really work here and not know how long you can take for lunch? Lunches are 45 minutes,(and up to an hour every other week on payday), unless you CHOOSE to take a shorter 30 min. lunch and get your day done 15 minutes sooner. And, again, you CAN check on your kids during the day.

Please do some fact-checking before you decide to share your own set of incorrect facts on here. Feel free to call me or our HR staff with your questions. We’ll continue to post on here until you get it right.

M. Austin
Utica National

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